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deadmalc 2009-08-23 22:18

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
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Originally Posted by Paxicide (Post 313923)
I know exacty what you mean. With that said, do penguins have toes?

Not sure but they can fly...

elimoon8 2009-08-24 00:41

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
I like the Nokia Portal, because of all the device claims to do.

(portal to the internet, social networks, friends; gets you where you need to go (gps), etc.)

It also sounds kind of futuristic.

JayOnThaBeat 2009-08-24 01:14

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
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Originally Posted by elimoon8 (Post 314663)
I like the Nokia Portal, because of all the device claims to do.

(portal to the internet, social networks, friends; gets you where you need to go (gps), etc.)

It also sounds kind of futuristic.

Also, if you want any good apps on it, you'll have to wait for someone to port(al) them :D

Architengi 2009-08-24 07:32

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
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Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 314582)

"saying it runs Maemo" doesn't give it an identity.

unless you're going to call it "Maemo" (or "Maemo Phone").

Like Apple in the 1980's didn't just call their operating system "Macintosh," they called the computer "Macintosh", not "a computer running Macintosh." (And that was OK, but people, or Apple, ultimately preferred the sound of calling it "Mac.")

Maybe I'd get used to, and like, calling them "Maemo Phones" and "Maemo Tablets." (Like I've said, I thought "Blackberry" was a really stupid name, but it worked and I got used to it.) But I don't think so. It just doesn't sound nice. Ragnar, in the US, like in an advertisement, how do you see Nokia pronouncing "Maemo"?

To me, a well-chosen name helps give the product line an identity and helps market it, and helps unify a particular set of devices in the public's mind.

ThinkPad is a good example, in a number of ways. It sounds good. It links to a very-longstanding tradition of IBM using the word "Think" in its marketing. "ThinkPad" sounds catchier than "an IBM laptop."

Then within the ThinkPad line were very consistent sub-categories. The X-series are small and have no integrated disk drives. The T-series are full-featured, and pricey because made thinner. The R-series is full-size without trying to be made thin or light. Then within those well-defined lines are the various numbers, like the ThinkPad X21, X22, X23, X24, X31, X32, etc. And each higher number is the successor, in a logical order.

I've never understood the Nokia naming convention. To me, calling the N800 and the N86 and the N97 all N-series is confusing. If there is an overall logic to all this, with when a unit gets a letter and when it gets 2 digits or 4 digits and the meaning of higher numbers, it isn't readily apparent.

With Lenovo now owning the ThinkPad line, they distinguished their new consumer line of notebooks from the more corporate line by calling them IdeaPads. Smart move. So "ThinkPad" still presents a distinct, unified image to the public. Likewise, the Maemo line -- especially if it's intended to have a unity to it (like being consistently high-end) -- ought to have its own identity. Even if it's not all high-end, it's definitely distinct from the rest of Nokia's offerings.

Good example with IBM "ThinkPad" series and Lenovo "IdeaPads" series.

Even "Blackberry" and "Razor" were better series names than "N-series".
Actually "N-Series" is not even a name, not on all the N devices it is written this "N-series" word, and even if it is written, this must be a joke brand name, only Nokia marketing could come with such uninspired naming... I never heard anybody saying "I have an N-series phone". Just because the word N-series is unclear what it refers to, it is not a word but something about a series "N" and people simply don't get it.

Architengi 2009-08-24 07:47

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
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Originally Posted by Peet (Post 314590)
I must admit that I've never really been impressed by the "Maemo" branding......

Anyhow I feel that there's room for at least two device lineup brandings (Top and Mainstream) and I don't feel totally comfortable leaving the final decision to Nokia's management... :p

Some good names community came up for Maemo-phone series:
* MaPhone
* Memo
* Avata
* Nexus/Nexo
* Conflux
* Flux
* Communicator (this is a bit long)
* Contact
* Portal
* Tacto, Tasto, Amago

ragnar 2009-08-24 09:12

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
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Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 314561)
We're talking about naming the "it" here, not Maemo.

By "it" do you mean a single device, or a range of devices? The poll at least says "series of devices".

So do you mean Nokia MaPhone yet-one-more-word, or just Nokia MaPhone? And what would the next one be then called? And what would be the rule for the one-more-word?

zerojay 2009-08-24 10:28

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Well, I meant mine to be for one specific device, RX-51... not so much an entire line of products.

Texrat 2009-08-24 14:16

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Hey, bud, doesn't "Nokia Zero" sound good? :D

timsamoff 2009-08-24 14:27

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Just thought of one:

Nokia Scarab

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 314848)
Hey, bud, doesn't "Nokia Zero" sound good? :D

Now that is frickin' hilarious. Ha ha ha! I love it. :D

Tim

Texrat 2009-08-24 14:41

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Yeah... so many connotations, so few free hours to spend exploring them all... :D

timsamoff 2009-08-24 15:00

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Ok... Just watched the Nokia Booklet video. Pretty cool (I've commented on Twitter). Anyway, in the video they say "Sync effortlessly with your mobile," and it got me thinking... What about:

Nokia Mobile

Now, that would pigeonhole a brand, wouldn't it? Trademark that puppy and no one could use the term Mobile for their devices anymore. :p

Tim

qole 2009-08-24 16:49

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Nokia Booklet: Shouldn't it be Nokia JustAnotherNetBook? How disappointing.

Nice music and 3D text effects though.

GeraldKo 2009-08-24 16:59

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
OK, I gotta name for the Maemo phones and tablets (could work with Netbooks, or whatever, too):

Nokia Nutshell

Implies a whole lot of stuff contained in a small package. Comes up in conversation in the phrase "in a nutshell" so gets "free advertising" all the time. I checked it out on my girlfriend and her reaction was, "I like it. It's really cute." Has the N alliteration.

Yes, it sounds a little like a takeoff on the Blackberry, but that's not bad. Especially since Nutshell makes sense and Blackberry sounds like nonsense. (A few years from now people would figure that Nutshell must have come first and that RIM desperately adopted the Blackberry name. ;) )

Works in conversation:

"Hey, what's that?"
"It's a Nokia Nutshell."

"Honey, have you seen my Nutshell?" (Okay, ZeroJay, go for it!)

First off the line, the Nokia Nutshell 900. (Or the Nokia Nutshell N900; or the Nokia Nutshell P900, to distinguish it from the upcoming :D Nokia Nutshell T900 tablet.)

Texrat 2009-08-24 17:02

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Awesome. Then when anyone summarizes by saying "in a nutshell...", it will be like calling soda "Coke" or tissue "Kleenex": free advertising. :D

zerojay 2009-08-24 17:09

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
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Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 314945)
"It's a Nokia Nutshell."

"Honey, have you seen my Nutshell?" (Okay, ZeroJay, go for it!)

Sure.

"Babe, can you grab my nut?"

ysss 2009-08-24 17:20

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Isn't it obvious... Nokia is building their lifelet range.

They've already announced the booklet 3G, which assumes the book-ish form factor... and it's only obvious that they'll follow it up with a desklet. The fabled N900 will naturally assume the tablet monniker.

I can see their farming-oriented device in the future will be bestowed as the piglet.. and we're all waiting for their jewel of the crown which will be the toilet.

daperl 2009-08-24 17:42

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Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 314950)
Sure.

"Babe, can you grab my nut?"

"Sync Nut to Ovi"

qwerty12 2009-08-24 17:46

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
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Originally Posted by daperl (Post 314964)
"Sync Nut to Ovi"

I tried, but it said: "File size too big".

Texrat 2009-08-24 17:48

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
grooooooan.....

sjgadsby 2009-08-24 17:50

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
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Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 314965)
I tried but it said "File size too big".


ysss 2009-08-24 17:56

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Architengi 2009-08-24 20:59

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
How about instead of Xpress Music calling that series as "Pinapple Express" :p

qole 2009-08-24 21:11

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Ok. That is downright eerie. Was Ron Jeremy going for the "Balzac look" intentionally?

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Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 314970)

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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 314974)


Architengi 2009-08-25 04:00

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
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Originally Posted by timsamoff (Post 314879)
Ok... Just watched the Nokia Booklet video. Pretty cool (I've commented on Twitter). Anyway, in the video they say "Sync effortlessly with your mobile," and it got me thinking... What about:

Nokia Mobile

Now, that would pigeonhole a brand, wouldn't it? Trademark that puppy and no one could use the term Mobile for their devices anymore. :p

Tim

So there is another series - the "booklet"

Architengi 2009-08-25 04:03

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
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Originally Posted by qole (Post 314942)
Nokia Booklet: Shouldn't it be Nokia JustAnotherNetBook? How disappointing.

Nice music and 3D text effects though.

Why the most awaited Nokia booklet is not a Maemo notebook? If they want applications for maemo, they should have a Maemo line of products including notebooks.

On notebooks it is easy to develop. And it was an easy port to N900 if the hardware was the same (ARM RISC)

JayOnThaBeat 2009-08-25 04:03

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
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Originally Posted by qole (Post 315100)
Ok. That is downright eerie. Was Ron Jeremy going for the "Balzac look" intentionally?

Balzac = Honoré de Balzac
Ron Jeremy = Horny Ballsack...

Coincidence?

Architengi 2009-08-25 04:13

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
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Originally Posted by timsamoff (Post 314879)
What about:

Nokia Mobile


That's good now after Nokia does all: boots, notebooks, booklets, fishing boots, laptops, TVs, s40 cells, logger boots, maps, picasa and flickr style share, youtube style of share videos, GPS devices, netbooks, GSM network hardware, smartphones with oldye Symbian...

Architengi 2009-08-25 04:14

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
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Originally Posted by timsamoff (Post 314879)
What about:

Nokia Mobile

Starting today this makes sense...

That's good now after Nokia does all: boots, notebooks, booklets, fishing boots, laptops, TVs, s40 cells, logger boots, maps, picasa and flickr style share, youtube style of share videos, GPS devices, netbooks, GSM network hardware, smartphones with oldye Symbian...


When we will have Nokia Facebook, or Nokia Hi5 ?

Architengi 2009-08-25 04:16

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
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Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 314754)
Well, I meant mine to be for one specific device, RX-51... not so much an entire line of products.

The million dollar (or euro) question is: name of the maemo phone series?

Architengi 2009-08-25 04:16

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
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Originally Posted by JayOnThaBeat (Post 315188)
Balzac = Honoré de Balzac
Ron Jeremy = Horny Ballsack...

Coincidence?

no comments

Architengi 2009-08-25 04:17

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
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Originally Posted by Architengi (Post 314718)
Some good names community came up for Maemo-phone series:
* MaPhone
* Memo
* Avata
* Nexus/Nexo
* Conflux
* Flux
* Communicator (this is a bit long)
* Contact
* Portal
* Tacto, Tasto, Amago

Starting over...

JayOnThaBeat 2009-08-25 04:19

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
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Originally Posted by Architengi (Post 315191)
When we will have Nokia Facebook, or Nokia Hi5 ?

There already is a Nokia High-Five!

(well actually, it's more of a secret handshake..........)


So how many different types of boots does Nokia make??

Architengi 2009-08-25 04:23

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
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Originally Posted by qole (Post 314942)
Nokia Booklet: Shouldn't it be Nokia JustAnotherNetBook? How disappointing.

Nice music and 3D text effects though.

Why the most awaited Nokia booklet is not a Maemo notebook? If they want applications for maemo, they should have a Maemo line of products including notebooks.

On notebooks it is easy to develop. And it was an easy port to N900 if the hardware was the same (ARM RISC) -> that was more developers.

So, bottom line, no netbook (touch-book) with Maemo in the future?


Finally there is another series - the "booklet" - nice new brand name from Nokia!
Why Maemo phones don't deserve a nice brand-name?

Architengi 2009-08-25 04:26

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Finally there is another series - the "booklet" - nice new brand name from Nokia!
Why Maemo phones don't deserve a nice brand-name?


Why Peter@marketing or anybody from Nokia does not see this thread? Give us some light, please... should we continue or we should turn off the light, put on the boots and go home ... :confused:

JayOnThaBeat 2009-08-25 04:31

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
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Originally Posted by Architengi (Post 315201)
Finally there is another series - the "booklet" - nice new brand name from Nokia!
Why Maemo phones don't deserve a nice brand-name?


Hey, I don't mean to harsh your buzz, but 'booklet' isn't that great of a name.

book⋅let
  /ˈbʊklɪt/
–noun
a little book, esp. one with paper covers; pamphlet.


It's especially not worth double posting about (double half-posting?)...

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Why Peter@marketing or anybody from Nokia does not see this thread? Give us some light, please... should we continue or we should turn off the light, put on the boots and go home ... :confused:
Nokia boots!

ysss 2009-08-25 04:46

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Architengi (Post 315201)
Finally there is another series - the "booklet" - nice new brand name from Nokia!
Why Maemo phones don't deserve a nice brand-name?


Why Peter@marketing or anybody from Nokia does not see this thread? Give us some light, please... should we continue or we should turn off the light, put on the boots and go home ... :confused:

You can't be serious :)
The short answer is put on the boots and go home...

JayOnThaBeat 2009-08-25 04:58

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 315207)
You can't be serious :)
The short answer is put on the boots and go home...

Nokia boots!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Architengi (Post 315191)
...That's good now after Nokia does all: boots, notebooks, booklets, fishing boots, laptops, TVs, s40 cells, logger boots, maps, picasa and flickr style share, youtube style of share videos, GPS devices, netbooks, GSM network hardware, smartphones with oldye Symbian...


qole 2009-08-25 17:55

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Yes, indeed.

http://www.nokianfootwear.fi/

That's not all...

http://www.about-nokia.com/images/nokian-tyres.jpg

mikkov 2009-08-25 18:45

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Nokia sold sold basically all other businesses during 90's except telecommunications. But Nokia Kontio is the best :)

Architengi 2009-08-25 20:31

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Nokia XM 5230, Nokia XM 5530, Nokia XM 5800... it just does not make any sense this hard to remember long numbers...

Wouldn't be more easy: SyTouch mini, SyTouch Wi-Fi, SyTouch 3G ?


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