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izzox 2009-09-01 05:27

Re: Ovi store for maemo
 
pliz let's make things simple and easy.

Nokia should enbale java and symbians platforms on the new Nxx. so that those willing to pay for an application, will in the java and symbians catalogue. and those those that don't have free money to give to ovi will continue using maemo applications.
if i have money to give, I prefert to "donate" it directly to the developers than to put it in ovi market (sorry!).
pliz nokia people, by buying the N900 you would have earn enougth from me, if now you want to sell me applications that used to be free just because u did a litle upgrade, thas would be shameful! (honestly shameful)

izzox 2009-09-01 05:29

Re: Ovi store for maemo
 
pliz let's make things simple and easy.

Nokia should enbale java and symbians platforms on the new Nxx. so that those willing to pay for an application, will in the java and symbians catalogue. and those those that don't have free money to give to ovi will continue using maemo applications.
if i have money to give, I prefert to "donate" it directly to the developers than to put it in ovi market (sorry!).
pliz nokia people, by buying the N900 you would have earn enougth from me, if now you want to sell me applications that used to be free just because u did a litle upgrade, thas would be shameful! (honestly shameful)

Architengi 2009-09-01 06:49

Re: Ovi store for maemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by izzox (Post 319320)
pliz let's make things simple and easy.

Nokia should enbale java and symbians platforms on the new Nxx. so that those willing to pay for an application, will in the java and symbians catalogue. and those those that don't have free money to give to ovi will continue using maemo applications.
if i have money to give, I prefert to "donate" it directly to the developers than to put it in ovi market (sorry!).
pliz nokia people, by buying the N900 you would have earn enougth from me, if now you want to sell me applications that used to be free just because u did a litle upgrade, thas would be shameful! (honestly shameful)

Java is a virtual machine which emulates java programs.

Symbian applications are native applications for Symbian OS. The only way to have them on another OS (Linux, Windows, Mac OSX) is to have a Symbian Virtual Machine. Like the DOS Box Virtual Machine on Symbian where DOS and Windows 3.1, even Win95 apps can be run. But they are run slow in a virtual machine or emulator, and many apps cannot be run because of drivers or special libraries.

Short story: To run Symbian apps on another OS a VM is needed but even then those apps might not run, and if they run, that will be at half speed.

ysss 2009-09-01 07:34

Re: Ovi store for maemo
 
An article comparing Google's Android store vs Apple's AppStore:

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/08/31...-meager-sales/

It's interesting how\why google made some obvious 'mistakes' in handling the user's overall purchase experience.

REMFwhoopitydo 2009-09-01 10:30

Re: Ovi store for maemo
 
lessons to be learnt from the android experience:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/p...living-off-th/

Architengi 2009-09-09 06:59

Re: Ovi store for maemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by REMFwhoopitydo (Post 318703)
the n900 must have a mechanism for securely* buying commercial content including games.

nokia should release an Ovi client for the n900 and roll their nGage division into that.

* from both the developers point of view as well as the customer.

Many people asked for N-Gage platform on Maemo. It looks the most popular request as application category.

Hopefully, Nokia listen to the customers.

Nokia said at Nowkia World in Germany, the N-Gage is not yet on Maemo because Maemo does not support DRM.

christexaport 2009-09-11 02:12

Re: Ovi store for maemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by izzox (Post 319318)
pliz let's make things simple and easy.

Nokia should enbale java and symbians platforms on the new Nxx. so that those willing to pay for an application, will in the java and symbians catalogue. and those those that don't have free money to give to ovi will continue using maemo applications.
if i have money to give, I prefert to "donate" it directly to the developers than to put it in ovi market (sorry!).
pliz nokia people, by buying the N900 you would have earn enougth from me, if now you want to sell me applications that used to be free just because u did a litle upgrade, thas would be shameful! (honestly shameful)

What makes you think the java and Symbian apps will cost? Most good Symbian apps are in fact free, like JBak Taskman. Maemo doesn't corner the market for free apps, not in the least. In fact, most of the good apps aren't even in the Ovi Store, but many that are are totally free.

And if a developer uses the Ovi channel to distribute his apps, it is good to use the Ovi Store to support the delivery infrastructure, which will allow users to discover more apps more easily, and allow the developer to make more money from a larger pool of users.

I do hope the N900 can run java apps, just because they are plenty and simple.

Texrat 2009-09-11 03:11

Re: Ovi store for maemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Architengi (Post 324138)
Nokia said at Nowkia World in Germany, the N-Gage is not yet on Maemo because Maemo does not support DRM.

Another example of split personality disorder in the company.

Sooner or later this Maemo/S60 struggle is going to have to be resolved...

timsamoff 2009-09-11 04:20

Re: Ovi store for maemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 325209)
Sooner or later this Maemo/S60 struggle is going to have to be resolved...

You'd be surprised how supportive (and envious) the Symbian folks are of Maemo.

Tim

mobiledivide 2009-09-11 04:39

Re: Ovi store for maemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by timsamoff (Post 325224)
You'd be surprised how supportive (and envious) the Symbian folks are of Maemo.

Tim

This is interesting I remember going to an S60 meetup with Symbian developers and team members a couple of years ago with my N800 which I was SUPER excited about. The couple of symbian Nokians whom I talked to were dismissive and disdainful of the tablet and maemo in general, and basically said it was doomed and that the web browser was craptacular (Opera at the time), essentially laughing me out of the room for paying for the tablet instead of an N95. It's funny how the mighty have faltered.

On Topic : I simply can't see an Ovi store being extremely competitive on maemo as currently constituted. Commercially I think service oriented apps such as Rhapsody, Gizmo and Skype are where to make money. Things such as 99c apps will be hard to make financially successful with 1 million users without some kind of recurring payment.


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