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Re: Nokia Booklet 3G

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 317802)

Ask Nokia. You're barking up the wrong tree dude.

Like I already said not having a Linux version is a fail on Nokia, not Linux. And anyway it was about your point of browsers having nothing to do with OS.

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 317802)

Get over it. This product, in its current form, isn't for you. Perhaps with some patience, a Linux variant will be produced.

Last I checked, nobody is forcing you to buy anything. This doesn't support your choice, shop elsewhere. Or join others that want it on there. As it stands, whining does absolutely nothing.

But then again, windows software and file formats are forced on me.

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 317802)

And if the demand isn't there, then that doesn't support capitalism.

Capitalism over freedom! Yay!
Anyway, there is a demand like you see in this thread or in most blogs that said "wtf, no linux on the booklet" when it was announced.

Re: Nokia Booklet 3G

It doesn't have anything to do with the browser. Ovi doesn't support Linux.

How hard is that to fathom? I mean, seriously.

You're all up in arms about something and want to get your panties in a bigger knot about something that really isn't relevant. A browser just gets you there.

For instance... If there's ActiveX controls on the page, then it means that you should use IE if it doesn't work in FF. Oh, you're on a Mac or Linux? Then ActiveX has nothing to do with your choice of anything other than your OS.

And that's what you seemingly cannot get right now. So I'll waste my last bit of patience with this last bit.

I don't care if you go to the site using Konqueror, Firefox, Opera, or whatever Webkit browser on your choice of OS it won't work at all.

As it stands, Nokia made the damn decision to shut out you Linux users at it's release. Your browser could have been crafted by Loki, the unknown 8th dwarf and Marty McFly, it won't work unless Nokia programmed it to work alongside your decision/choices.

And sadly, you're all up in arms with people that... well, I for one am dead tired of you people whining like you're owed anything.

Don't like Nokia's decision, don't want it to be "forced upon you to use Windows"... guess what. Take your money, take your favorite OS and support what does work for you. Apparently it's not this overpriced piece of **** netbook that doesn't support whatever the hell you're whining about now.

A browser won't help you in this situation. Getting Ovi to work in the OPERATING SYSTEM is your problem. Why can't you get that!?

Re: Nokia Booklet 3G

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 317812)

Getting Ovi to work in the OPERATING SYSTEM is your problem.

Isn't that what this whole argument in this thread is about. I think you're missing the point somewhere. From the start we're arguing that this booklet doesn't have Linux on it only because Nokia didn't have a Linux version of OVI.

Re: Nokia Booklet 3G

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Originally Posted by geneven (Post 316520)

So, if you like a world that is alienating and mostly owned by someone else, support proprietary operating systems. If you want something that you can tinker with and understand, support non-proprietary.

I need to write this down. Great way to say it.

I don't believe in a world of tools, pragmatism and survival of the fittest. I believe in values (other than profit). And I want to stay in control of what I depend upon so much in my every day life: computers.

Re: Nokia Booklet 3G

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Hi all! This is Samuli Ylinen from Nokia Ovi Suite team.

First: thanks for everybody, who have downloaded the first Nokia Ovi Suite 2.0 Beta, really great to see this interest happening. Keep downloading software, spread the word to your friends interested about Nokia Betas, keep reporting your errors and ideas - it's really useful for us.

Then, couple of comments about Mac and Linux support. As you know, we've implemented Nokia Ovi Suite 2.0 with Qt, but that's for the UI of of Nokia Ovi Suite 2.0 - most of our connectivity is based on technology from Nokia PC Suite and unfortunately, this connectivity technology doesn't yet have multiplatform support.

Then answers:
Mac: We are working for Mac version of Nokia Ovi Suite - so that's coming at some time in future.
Linux: As we use Qt in Nokia Ovi Suite UI, we have the basic tecnology enablers for Linux version available, but building Nokia Ovi Suite for Linux is not in the scope currently. Of course, we are constantly following how the desktop operating system market evolves.

Could you write your comments about Linux support under following discussion topic:
http://betalabs.nokia.com/forum/topic/3210

And comments about Mac support under this topic:
http://betalabs.nokia.com/forum/topic/3219

We will be looking into these and are very interested to hear your comments about these and wishes. I would like to hear following comments:
- which features in Nokia Ovi Suite would be most important for you in Mac / Linux?
- which Linux distributions would be most useful?

--
Samuli

You might want to give feedback straight to the Ovi Suite team about the lack of Linux version..

Re: Nokia Booklet 3G

Yay, Mac OSX before Linux...

Re: Nokia Booklet 3G

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 317798)

Alternative browser has very little to do with the OS.

Tell that to websites that specifically check for firefox on windows, otherwise don't let you in (yes, I saw plenty of those, and if you delve into the javascript to pass after the gatekeeping page, unsurprisingly everything works as expected).
Not to mention sites using activex (those I'd avoid even if I were using IE) or requiring a specific version of flash, quicktime or other crap like that.

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 317798)

Same for OS. It's the fanboyism that needs to be removed. So you think that Linux is the best. Great! I'm glad you found an option that made you happy. Too bad it doesn't fit everybody's needs.

Where did I say that it fits everybody's needs? I just said that I want to use it without some ***** imposing me some windows only technology. That's partially acceptable for private enterprises (after all they're losing a potential customer) but it's totally unacceptable for public institutions.

Re: Nokia Booklet 3G

http://www.nokia.com/NOKIA_COM_1/Pre...data_sheet.pdf

There is the data sheet. The RAM is soldered down? Baaaadddddd

Re: Nokia Booklet 3G

Holy **** 16 cell battery!!! That thing must be really heavy O_O

Re: Nokia Booklet 3G

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Originally Posted by meizirkki (Post 320641)

Holy **** 16 cell battery!!! That thing must be really heavy O_O

1250 grams according to the data sheet, or 1.25 kilo.