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Architengi 2009-08-26 06:26

Nokia ARM based netbook with Maemo
 
Nokia to offer ARM-based smartbook in addition to Booklet 3G, say Taiwan makers

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090826PD204.html

For the initial smartbook orders, Nokia is likely to outsource the production to either Compal Electronics or Foxconn Electronics (Hon Hai Precision Industry), The Nokia Booklet 3G, which will run on Microsoft Windows 7 and supports 3G/HSDPA, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and A-GPS, will be produced by Compal.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/n...k-in-mid-2010/

a smartbook / MID with either a multicore ARM Cortex A9 Sparrow chip or Qualcomm's Snapdragon processor.

Architengi 2009-08-26 06:33

Re: Nokia ARM based netbook with Maemo
 
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The OS will be Maemo ARM based OS, or a combination of Maemo Linux with Intel Moblin Linux.

benny1967 2009-08-26 06:38

Re: Nokia ARM based netbook with Maemo
 
I hope this is true. Could be the long awaited successor to the N8x0...

Peet 2009-08-26 07:51

Re: Nokia ARM based netbook with Maemo
 
With Maemo?

With Maemo still undergoing UI redesign and shoehorning to fit in the smaller-than-tablets smartphones?

I'd personally hope that the ARM netbook market will only be "fragmented" between the (inevitable) ms-wince preload crowd and the open and mostly mutually coooperative Debian/Ubuntu Netbook Remix community. If that hardware platform relies on closed proprietary hardware it will be born as dead as any non-x86 wince platform before it though. That is, even deader than x86 ms-wince!

Moblin could be interesting too, if it wasn't for the x86-centric priorities of their big daddy Intel.

Well, in any case the more ARM-based (true netbook) devices, the merrier...

zehjotkah 2009-08-26 08:09

Re: Nokia ARM based netbook with Maemo
 
maemo is not the same as the maemo-ui you know from maemo4 or you will know from maemo5. thanks to linux it is possible to take the system an throw a different ui on it.
as i said... wait for second of september and you will see...

ysss 2009-08-26 08:10

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This is pretty boner worthy

fpp 2009-08-26 08:13

Re: Nokia ARM based netbook with Maemo
 
Yup, that's more like it... let the execs have their BMW (Booklet), this is the Lada workhorse for the rest of us... :-)

Andre Klapper 2009-08-26 09:53

Re: Nokia ARM based netbook with Maemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Architengi (Post 315559)
The OS will be Maemo ARM based OS, or a combination of Maemo Linux with Intel Moblin Linux.

This is a cheap fake picture, and "The OS will be Maemo ARM based OS" is not true either, as far as I know.
Please come up with sources at least.

qwerty12 2009-08-26 09:55

Re: Nokia ARM based netbook with Maemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Architengi (Post 315559)
The OS will be Maemo ARM based OS, or a combination of Maemo Linux with Intel Moblin Linux.

Nokia: Keepin' it gangsta.

attila77 2009-08-26 10:01

Re: Nokia ARM based netbook with Maemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Architengi (Post 315557)
Nokia to offer ARM-based smartbook in addition to Booklet 3G, say Taiwan makers

a smartbook / MID with either a multicore ARM Cortex A9 Sparrow chip or Qualcomm's Snapdragon processor.

This I'm very much looking forward to, but does feel a bit wrong after "Maemo focuses touchscreen and fits into pockets" has been rubbed under my nose by Nokians in the booklet thread :) Either Nokia folks also have big pockets and this is a MID, or smartbooks get a lot smaller in 2010. I would prefer the former, but I don't think that's the mysterious N920 second device. One can always hope, though :)

deter3 2009-08-26 10:22

Re: Nokia ARM based netbook with Maemo
 
as ' vertical os ' is pop now , i believe there will be a maemo based os netbook from nokia . Google and Apple are doing the same thing now -- to apply similar os through smartphone , netbook and laptop. I read this news from Chinese sources today and it was said this ARM-based netbook will be out 1st half next year . i'd skip current win 7 booklet and wait for a non-windows booklet .

YoDude 2009-08-26 12:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 315588)
Nokia: Keepin' it gangsta.

Fo' real... :D

****

To me Maemo indicates touch screen. Do these sources offer any hardware tidbits?

tso 2009-08-26 12:32

Re: Nokia ARM based netbook with Maemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fpp (Post 315572)
Yup, that's more like it... let the execs have their BMW (Booklet), this is the Lada workhorse for the rest of us... :-)

make it a trabant, and i am game ;)

attila77 2009-08-26 13:36

Re: Nokia ARM based netbook with Maemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 315637)
make it a trabant, and i am game ;)

Nah, too much plastic :D

fpp 2009-08-26 14:29

Re: Nokia ARM based netbook with Maemo
 
Okay, a Ford Model T then... :-)

qole 2009-08-26 16:54

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As I posted in the Booklet thread, the Moblin Zone newsletter seems to agree with the premise that there will be Moblin/Maemo netbooks (although they say Atom processors, not ARM). An article about ConnMan (our current hope for ditching NetworkManager in Mer, BTW) starts with the following:

Quote:

In June 2009 Intel and Nokia announced a partnership to collaboratively optimize Moblin and Nokia’s Maemo Linux OS for Atom-based netbooks, nettops, MIDs, automotive infotainment systems and cell phones.

mrojas 2009-08-26 17:00

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The picture is fake as hell. Notice the Windows key on that keyboard.

timsamoff 2009-08-26 17:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 315588)
Nokia: Keepin' it gangsta.

Nokia: Cappin' People

JayOnThaBeat 2009-08-26 17:47

Re: Nokia ARM based netbook with Maemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Architengi (Post 315559)
The OS will be Maemo ARM based OS, or a combination of Maemo Linux with Intel Moblin Linux.http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1251268265

Racial Harmony > Pedophilia :D

zehjotkah 2009-08-26 17:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JayOnThaBeat (Post 315741)
Racial Harmony > Pedophilia :D

made me laugh!!

i think you must explain this for those who don't know this "insider-joke"

JayOnThaBeat 2009-08-26 18:20

Re: Nokia ARM based netbook with Maemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 315748)
made me laugh!!

i think you must explain this for those who don't know this "insider-joke"

Sure.

http://breakingupdate.com/files/nokia-logo.jpg


Connecting people = you will probably end up on To Catch a Predator if you try to connect like the people in the logo....

qole 2009-08-26 18:33

Re: Nokia ARM based netbook with Maemo
 
A conversation that lead to this:

http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1230766392

JayOnThaBeat 2009-08-26 18:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 315781)
A conversation that lead to this:

I was trying to find that thread!

(I had to google image search :()

Texrat 2009-08-26 22:49

Re: Nokia ARM based netbook with Maemo
 
As I confirmed before, a division of Foxconn is already making netbooks for Nokia. That is readily-available public knowledge. Now, whether that involves the heavily-discussed Booklet or some other model is not for me to say.

It is also public knowledge that Foxconn built CDMA phones for Nokia for 2 years. It is further public knowledge that this was for Verizon, who is developing a 4G infrastructure based on LTE in the US.

My analysis: there are dots to be connected here. ;)

tso 2009-08-26 23:36

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dots? more like a continually moving anthill ;)

Peet 2009-08-27 05:49

Re: Nokia ARM based netbook with Maemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 315946)
As I confirmed before, a division of Foxconn is already making netbooks for Nokia.

That might help explain why the Nokia-designed netbook is only preloaded with Microsoft OS. Despite Nokia already collaborating with Canonical by basing Maemo on Ubuntu...

Interestingly Foxconn seems to be one of those ultra-opportunistic corporations which thrive under the unique Chinese blend of "crony-communism" and western corporatism by being against anything free and open.

They're also making sure that the artsy Apple clientele gets their labour-union-free gadgets without Apple needing to lower its profit margins.

johnkzin 2009-08-27 12:39

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Well, hopefully this second netbook will be a convertible tablet :-}

fpp 2009-08-27 12:50

Re: Nokia ARM based netbook with Maemo
 
I'd like something like the new Sharp NetWalker, with a swivel screen (=tablet) and Bluetooth...

johnkzin 2009-08-27 12:56

Re: Nokia ARM based netbook with Maemo
 
For a netbook, I'd like something bigger than a 5" screen though (re: Sharp NetWalker). I'd prefer a 8"-10" for a netbook.

But a convertible-tablet/swivel-screen version of the Sharp NetWalker, 5" screen and all, but otherwise like an N900 (phone, 3G, Maemo5) ... that I'd buy :-)

Architengi 2009-09-14 06:48

Re: Nokia ARM based netbook with Maemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 315711)
As I posted in the Booklet thread, the Moblin Zone newsletter seems to agree with the premise that there will be Moblin/Maemo netbooks (although they say Atom processors, not ARM). An article about ConnMan (our current hope for ditching NetworkManager in Mer, BTW) starts with the following:

>>> In June 2009 Intel and Nokia announced a partnership to collaboratively optimize Moblin and Nokia’s Maemo Linux OS for Atom-based netbooks, nettops, MIDs, automotive infotainment systems and cell phones.

Nokia is working on something with Maemo (+Moblin), but my understanding was that Intel Linux OS Moblin runs on ARM processors... or it runs only on Atom?

meizirkki 2009-09-14 10:32

Re: Nokia ARM based netbook with Maemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Architengi (Post 326583)
Nokia is working on something with Maemo (+Moblin), but my understanding was that Intel Linux OS Moblin runs on ARM processors... or it runs only on Atom?

It works on ARM too, See ubuntu-moblin-remix. Karmic already has an ARM build.

alaska770 2010-04-16 05:51

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I stumbled on this:

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20100415PB201.html

"Compal Communications has secured orders for an entry-level smartphone based on Nokia's Maemo platform, according to a Chinese-language Commercial Times report.

Shipments of the model, which is slated to feature a 4-inch or larger display and Qualcomm's 7000-series chipset, are scheduled for the second half of 2011. This marks the first time Compal has received Nokia orders with a FOB (free-on-board) price above US$150, the report indicated."

Edit: also covered here: http://www.electronista.com/articles....large.screen/

tso 2010-04-16 11:24

Re: Nokia ARM based netbook with Maemo
 
if this is true, we are looking at 6 year old tech. This makes next to zero sense.

my suspicion is that its a non-nokia company that placed the order, and that the os used will be that "knock off" maemo thats been showing up on chinese devices ever so often (looking more like a variant of mer, or at least maemo with all the closed nokia bits stripped off).

also, neither page even links to a source, be it in chinese or english.

heck, i thought nokia had their own factory over there.

attila77 2010-04-16 12:21

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TFA also claims the N900 has a Samsung ARM processor, well, if the rest of the article is as correct as that snippet... :)


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