n900: isn't it too thick?
 

For me, everything I've read related to n900 seems just perfect, however, I think it is quite thick. What do you think about it?

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The thickness doesn't bother me any,

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@isolano: the answer depends on your:
- hand size
- pocket size
- current handheld

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No worries here. I am usually bemused by the race toward paper-thin devices. ;)

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I thought thin devices looked cool, but in your hand too thin is difficult to grip. Sometimes a little bit of girth adds to the gripping comfort. It just sits very naturally in the palm instead of having to hold with the fingers. My N95 made me realise this.

So I wouldnt mind a little bit of thickness as long as its not a brick.

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The thickness slightly worries me too, but I'd have to see a device in the flesh to be sure. Ideally I'd like to see if it fits ok in jeans pockets while sat down, but I'm not too sure the mobile phone shop would be happy with that!

Maybe I should find or make something the same size and try it...

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Did you know a RAZR is as thick as an n810? I was shocked. So, now imagine an iPhone that is 4mm thicker than a RAZR. That's the n900. I'm one of those who wishes there wasn't a physical keyboard, so further imagine that my kind of n900 could be as thin as a RAZR. That would be cool.

We can talk about weight in another thread...

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Obviously getting thinner and lighter is always the objective, but there are always some trade-offs (w/ having keyboard, user-replacable battery etc.).

The N900 is some 50g+ heavier than the iphones (133/135g) so one of next year's Maemo Nokia's (possibly without physical keyboard) might be expected to be thinner and lighter than those two, while still offering more features.

As a tablet guy I'd also welcome a thinner but especially a bit wider device, supposing there's a nice-sized edge-to-edge screen.

Only getting near 100g or below do I consider gadgets to be comfortably shirt-pocketable and it will be a while before phone-tablets with keyboard will get that light (or thin).

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I'll take thick device over thick platform (or thick users :) ), any day.

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I was pretty surprised by the thickness and weight of the N900 when I saw the first pics. Yes, sometimes it might be better to be a bit thicker for grip, but with some kind of invisible shield and/or case, it will be pretty chunky to tote around. I wonder what contributed to the additional thickness...

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I recently bought a mugen battery, which made my N810 a lot thicker, and to my surprise it didn't bother me a bit.

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With everyone having different body size and shape.. and different expectations.. and different tolerance, it is kind of pointless, no?

Anyone want to comment if my pair of shoes are too big or small? They're size 11.

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for me, that's depend on price. if it's enough cheap, the size is not big problem.

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You know what they say about men with big shoes. ;)


...big feet.

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It's 9.5 inches.






That's my prediction of Apple Tablet's screen size :P

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I'm gonna go against the general opinion in this thread and say I wish it was at least three mm thinner. The N900 is a couple of mm thicker than my current phone, and I think my current phone is a tad on the chubby side.

Somewhat like the owner.

But any way I calculate it, the thickness of the N900 is thinner than the thickness of that phone plus the N810. So it's still a step in the right direction.

Also, the lower weight is welcome with me, since I sometimes get tired in the hands when I use it for hours. Not sure that it really will make any difference, but I welcome it anyway.

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Like bikes and steaks, thickness is relative to the benefits it brings. The N900 fits in my pockets and for me it feels more or less in the same league as the very popular phones I have been using since I joined Nokia (5200, N95, N81, N82, E71). Also as a user of the three Internet Tablets I'm just amazed about the size reduction increasing the features and keeping the same type of user experience.

I'm not an engineer and I don't even know exactly what are the layers that bring that thickness but with a high density display, hardware keyboard, stereo speakers, 5Mp camera and a build quality that passes the Nokia drop tests I actually feel our hardware designers and engineers did a great job (again).

PS: also think about all the people that usually don't carry the phone in their pockets e.g. most women and there is plenty of them.

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I can't possibly imagine my woman wanting a phone this big. Purse or no purse.

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While I do think the N900 is both too big and too heavy for me to carry it around every day, I must admit that my current phone (6110 Navigator) is even thicker: 20mm as compared to the N900s 18-19mm. (It's still smaller, though, and not as heavy).

So 20mm might not be all that bad.

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They say the size is not important, but how you use it. ;)

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I'm cool with it, but for sports it won't be very comfortable.

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I don't think the N900 is too thick, although thinner would be desirable. My current phone is 23mm thick, and my pockets are ready to burst when I'm carrying both my phone, N800, and occasionly a camera. The N900 will free up a lot of space, while providing more convience then I get from carring three seperate devices.

As for women wanting the N900. My wife carries the N95 and cannot wait to upgrade to the thinner N900. She wants her some Maemo.

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By comparing with my current phone (SE K750i) I think that the thickness of the N900 will not be a problem for me (the SE is 20.5 mm thick!). What I'm more worried about are the other dimensions, since I usually carry my phone in my pocket and I'm not really a big fan of huge pants pockets :)

On the plus side, no need to carry both the N800 and the cell phone, which is quite good!

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I can almost bet that the next device (supposed to be out in 1Q2010 with Fremantle onboard, according to some sources) is going to be a thin version of N900 sans the keyboard. :) It just feels like the most logical answer to the question "If you had got <1 year to release two devices sharing the same software, what form factors would you choose?"

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@fms: if you check out the current smartphone market.. just about everyone has that 'mini tablet smartphone' form factor (like the iphone):

- samsung omnia series
- htc magic, hero
- htc touch series
- rim storm series
- garmin nuvifone
- that dell android phone
- etc

so yeah, from marketing dept point of view, i suppose that's what's "in" nowadays.. or something.

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Imo for a smartphone it is too thick and too heavy. For an internet tablet, weight and thickness would be ok.

Of course on the other hand the screen seems to be approprately sized for a smarphone, but too small for an internet tables.

Apparently Nokia couldn't decide whether the N900 shall be a smartphone or an internet tablet, so they made it a little bit of both.

Which is the reason, why I definitely won't buy it, but wait instead for the next meamo devices. Hopefully these will either omit the keyboard and be much more lightweight and thinner to be a usable smartphone. Or add a reasonably sized screen to be an internet tablet.
Both would be ok for me - for different usecases.

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That's what I'm thinking about. I like to have my phone in my pocket, and my E71 it's just perfect.

I know n900 is smaller than my n810, but, placing my n810 into my pocket (just to have an idea) seems to me quite uncomfortable.

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It's not too thick. Basically. The N95 comparison is apt.

(And it's not like there is empty space within the device!) :)

It is as thin as what the form factor and the available HW at its design time allowed. As Quim said, there are a lot of goodies inside it.

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Think of how many men will decide to buy a bag (fashionable right now) if and when scientific research shows that mobile phone radiation can damage health... That would increase the baggy users dramatically.

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I don't care how fashionable man purses might become. I'll just stick to wearing my RF shieled boxer-briefs, thank you very much.

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Sounds like a cool idea: who has them D&G?:rolleyes:

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I wish the next, or at least eventual, iteration will drop the hardware keyboard and the camera! I suppose there are people who need pictures of every damn thing they do, but I don't. (I have a much better camera for pictures when I really care; it just isn't important to me if don't get a snapshot of some unexpected scene.) That would make the thing slimmer, which I do care about. (Not to mention cheaper.)

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No, not D&G, but the swiss company ISA Bodywear has (had?) them:

http://www.textually.org/textually/a.../05/015973.htm

;)

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Damn! Scratch another off my patent list.

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There is no denying it, it is the thickest smartphone out right now. It is even thicker than the Pre, which makes up for its thickness with being small overall.

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Its a beast, no getting around it. You would have to be pretty thick yourself to deny it.

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HTC Touch Pro 2: 102 x 51 x 18.1 mm. Weight, 165 g
Nokia N900: 110.9 x 59.8 x 18 mm. Weight, 181 g

More questions?

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I get the feeling some won't be happy until roll-up phones are here...