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Re: Portrait mode use cases

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Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 319459)

While operating a mobile device with one hand, what is it that you suppose people are doing with the other? I mean, do you think that in at least a few cases their other hand is involved in a primary task that should have their attention?

In today’s litigious society and in markets where a contributory negligence defense could somehow place fault on the actual device for allowing it's operator to be distracted (<I don’t agree with this, but it happens), I'm not sure it is a good idea for a manufacturer to promote one handed operation of a smart phone.

It is bad enough with just SMS >> EXAMPLES << imagine if people were booking hotel rooms, looking up lyrics to songs they just heard, or Googling recipes in order to decide if they need to stop at the market for ingredients on the way home while, all while they hurtle down the road @ 60 miles per hour while supposedly operating a 1, 1/2 ton vehicle.

It will be a while before lawsuits start hitting the news from the many injured or killed when a Los Angelos commuter rail train crashed with a freight rail and 25 people died. Just recently there was a Washington DC subway accident that killed 9. In both cases a possible cause stated was "operator distracted while text messaging". Although the investigations are not complete or may be found inconclusive, perhaps enough attention has been given to texting as a possible cause that a device manufacturer and/or a service provider could be named in a few of those civil actions.

Just a thought. :)

The driver of the Washington DC train was not at fault, as a matter of fact she is a hero. Please get your facts correct when making such damaging statements, thank you.

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wtop.com

WASHINGTON - Three days after the crash on Metro's Red Line, investigators are trying to determine how much operator-error factored into the tragic accident.

There has been some speculation about whether the operator, Jeanice McMillan, was using her cell phone when the train collided with a stopped train during the afternoon rush hour, killing herself and eight others.

Metro General Manager John Catoe tells WTOP the cell phone was not an issue.

"We know where her cell phone was -- it was not on her. It was in a backpack."

He says all signs are showing that the operator did everything she could to prevent the crash.

"The train itself was trying to stop for several hundred feet," Catoe says. "There's not one letter of evidence that our operator did anything to cause the accident."...

Re: Portrait mode use cases

I am very comfortable with the landscape mode except in certain selected cases where portrait mode fits the use case scenario better.

And I agree - with the camera, its a moot point, just turn the damned phone into portrait mode (just like with any dedicated camera). Yes a soft key button does help though.

My only portrait uses are as below

a) Browser - while landscape is better in general usage - but for GOOGLE READER, I always turn it to portrait mode - since you can see more headlines in one page and thus less scrolling. (mind you for a news reader, its the headlines you scan before you select articles to read - you dont read all articles usually).

b) In Browser to see my stock application (web based) I turn to portrait to fit more of my portfolio in one screen rather than in landscape mode.

c) Contacts - prefer to see in portrait mode again so that you can see more of the list to scan.
(Quick question - so i phone app in portrait mode, will the contacts list to select who to call also show in portrait mode ?)

Re: Portrait mode use cases

Landscape can be use one handed ... if i can do it with a n810 and some beers ... everyone can do it :

the evidence : http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3155/...e4465623e8.jpg

Re: Portrait mode use cases

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Originally Posted by Khertan (Post 319535)

Landscape can be use one handed ... if i can do it with a n810 and some beers ... everyone can do it :

the evidence : http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3155/...e4465623e8.jpg

@khertan: do you know why that works? d-pad.
And it's obvious that you can't move your thumb anywhere else from that d-pad position.

Re: Portrait mode use cases

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Originally Posted by nilchak (Post 319525)

(Quick question - so i phone app in portrait mode, will the contacts list to select who to call also show in portrait mode ?)

Quick answer: yes.

Re: Portrait mode use cases

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And it's obvious that you can't move your thumb anywhere else

We bet ?

Really ?

Re: Portrait mode use cases

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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 319511)

@qgil:
re: camera
(as I mentioned in my post about camera) I'm not that concerned about the UI orientation of the camera app, I just want to make sure that the shutter button position can be easily and securely reached with a one handed grip.

Take the device with your right hand, clipped with the thumb on the screen, the middle in the back and the index on the shooter. Turn the device to the left so your hand is on top. Shoot!

What's the problem with that and what makes you think that a button on the screen will make your life easier?

Re: Portrait mode use cases

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Originally Posted by mrojas (Post 319501)

I assume that the hacking tricks done for portrait mode won't get undone with a subsequent software update like the N8x0?

Hildon, basically a GTK+ extension, stays stable through the Fremantle maintenance releases. Harmattan will come with a framework based on Qt, as announced.

If there is a community project willing to bring Hildon further to Harmattan times, that is another story.

And before you ask :) Harmattan will support portrait mode in the way that makes more sense based on our UI vision and the feedback received from Maemo 5 users, our usability studies etc.

Re: Portrait mode use cases

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Originally Posted by Khertan (Post 319535)

Landscape can be use one handed ... if i can do it with a n810 and some beers ... everyone can do it :

the evidence : http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3155/...e4465623e8.jpg

Is that a dunkel bier, man that making me thirsty. :D

Re: Portrait mode use cases

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Originally Posted by Khertan (Post 319549)

We bet ?

Really ?

Unless you have hidden joints somewhere, you'd have to tip the device's balance to your palm and let go of your thumb to reposition. It's not impossible, that's why I always mention 'secure and comfortable grip' condition in my previous posts.

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Originally Posted by qgil (Post 319552)

Ok, I guess I will have to wait til I get the actual device to play with it :) Like I said previously, if this device passed Nokia's usability experts then it should be good enough for the population. It's just that there's been very few landscape-oriented phones in the past.