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timsamoff 2009-09-08 20:15

Re: Second discussion topic for co-creation project: CREATIVE MEDIA EDITING & SHARING
 
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Originally Posted by abbra (Post 323884)
T...include any additional field you see as needed. Other applications could then access those fields and relate them...It could have a backend that uses Contacts to combine data sources...

While at Nokia World, I was talking with Jaffa about the idea of being able to allow "Advanced" configuration withing the Maemo substructure. Not low-level stuff, but, at least, the ability to enter some external service API stuff (URL, a few settings, etc.) This would allow super-users to be able to easily configure their device for almost any service that allows access to their API (not unlike what zerojay is currently doing with RTComm).

Seeing this sort of hand-on interaction with a device would be very exciting.

Tim

mrojas 2009-09-09 00:56

Re: Second discussion topic for co-creation project: CREATIVE MEDIA EDITING & SHARING
 
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Originally Posted by Marieke (Post 320135)
Hi guys,

Below the second discussion topic for the co-creation project "Creativity on the Move". Again you are free to let all your thoughts, ideas & (for some of us) poetic talents flow when answering the following question:


What will be the next best thing in Creative Media Editing & Sharing?

So what are your expectations, wishes, thoughts, ideas when it comes to the future of editing, remixing, combining and sharing pictures, music and video on your device?



Everything that is said during these dialogues will be used as input for the expert co-creation session before the Summit. Feel free to come up with anything that you find applicable!


cheers,

Marieke

Hello Marieke,

From my personal perspective, I think that sharing has to go beyond the platform. I shouldn't need to have a specific device or to be subscribed to a specific service in order to share my media and to see media shared by others. And off course, I shouldn't need to use a different service for the type of media I want to share (Flicker for pictures, ?? for my audio, blogspot for my writing, etc).

When I was thinking on a system for media sharing, the first one I thought was a kind of Sharepoint on steroids.

However, since we want it to be very widely available, it should be web based. It should allow me to share any type of media, and to have the option to share it openly, without requiring subscription to a service. If I want to share a picture with a friend and he doesn't have an account, I should be able to send him a password protected link and that's it. And its default rules should be defined to protect my privacy, don't people get tired of getting their life exposed by a simple Google search?

Maybe Ovi can become something like that...?

sjgadsby 2009-09-09 02:30

Re: Second discussion topic for co-creation project: CREATIVE MEDIA EDITING & SHARING
 
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Originally Posted by qole (Post 322415)
Why isn't there any standardised slideshow "playlist" format? You would want a list of photos, length of time to show each photo, and optionally, the transition to use between photos.

Other than the transitions, that's basic SMIL. You also get text, audio, video, animation, etc.

Or you would, if SMIL support wasn't:
  1. limited to very few applications
  2. a different subset of the full specification + some proprietary extensions in each of those aforementioned applications

timsamoff 2009-09-09 13:09

Re: Second discussion topic for co-creation project: CREATIVE MEDIA EDITING & SHARING
 
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 324056)
Other than the transitions, that's basic SMIL. You also get text, audio, video, animation, etc.

Or you would, if SMIL support wasn't:
  1. limited to very few applications
  2. a different subset of the full specification + some proprietary extensions in each of those aforementioned applications

SMIL is great (especially when dealing with QuickTime and Flash FLVs), but wouldn't XML be better for something like this? I'm not saying that it's any more standardized than SMIL (because we all know how insanely varied and "personal" XML can be). But (imho), it's definitely more accessible.

Tim

sjgadsby 2009-09-09 13:46

Re: Second discussion topic for co-creation project: CREATIVE MEDIA EDITING & SHARING
 
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Originally Posted by timsamoff (Post 324255)
SMIL is great...but wouldn't XML be better...

See: Synchronized Multimedia Integration Language (SMIL) 1.0 Specification

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Originally Posted by W3C
SMIL documents are XML 1.0 documents [XML10].

Please understand that I'm not promoting SMIL above any and all theoretical alternatives. It's simply an existing, current standard that appears to fit the bill of being a "standardized slideshow definition file" to some degree. If someone goes on to define another, better XML standard for slideshow interchange, I'd just hope they'd look at SMIL first to learn from, and not recreate, what exists.

Side note: I clearly haven't been keeping up with SMIL development. SMIL does have transitions and has had them for some time.

timsamoff 2009-09-09 14:05

Re: Second discussion topic for co-creation project: CREATIVE MEDIA EDITING & SHARING
 
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 324270)

Ah, yes. I guess I knew that SMIL was XML. Hrmf. :p

Tim

Texrat 2009-09-09 14:07

Re: Second discussion topic for co-creation project: CREATIVE MEDIA EDITING & SHARING
 
I was focusing on personal use at first but obviously business and academia uses make sense too, especially in our milieu. My summit presentation is being created in Microsoft Powerpoint but using that to present the slidshow at an open source conference violates the spirit. I don't expect Microsoft to provide such a tool, but here's where a third party translator would be handy that could refactor the PPT into an XML-based format for sharing/presenting to non or anti-Microsoft audiences. ;)

mrojas 2009-09-09 14:21

Re: Second discussion topic for co-creation project: CREATIVE MEDIA EDITING & SHARING
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 324277)
I was focusing on personal use at first but obviously business and academia uses make sense too, especially in our milieu. My summit presentation is being created in Microsoft Powerpoint but using that to present the slidshow at an open source conference violates the spirit. I don't expect Microsoft to provide such a tool, but here's where a third party translator would be handy that could refactor the PPT into an XML-based format for sharing/presenting to non or anti-Microsoft audiences. ;)

Present it with OpenOffice...? :)

Texrat 2009-09-09 15:00

Re: Second discussion topic for co-creation project: CREATIVE MEDIA EDITING & SHARING
 
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Originally Posted by mrojas (Post 324285)
Present it with OpenOffice...? :)

I was just using that as an example for the slideshow discussion.

ysss 2009-09-09 15:06

Re: Second discussion topic for co-creation project: CREATIVE MEDIA EDITING & SHARING
 
Re: Lightweight (non-presentation laden) slideshow format

Surely a format like this will be useful to share just a small stack of photos over email, or to load up on the gajillions of slide show devices out there (yes, i'm talking about those deskbound ones and those 'smartphones' in everyone's pocket)..


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