First Nokia Capacitive Touch-Screen is released
 

First Nokia capacitive Touch-Screen is released:

http://nokiapp.com/2009/09/02/nokia-...eiled-at-nw09/

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What I want to know, is if they knew they were making this phone, why didn't they just make the N900 a tablet?

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Because this is capacitive, is it multi-touch as well?

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Doesn't apple own multi-touch or some such nonsense?

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No, they don't. There were others before Apple that used multi-touch. And for quicly typing on a screen keyboard with 2 fingers, multi-touch is mandatory, as well as for gaming. Devices with no keyboard or d-pad need multi-touch. That is the reality.

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They did. Just don't put a SIM in it and *whoosh* it's a tablet. For the rest of us that actually WANTED it to be a phone, we put a SIM in it and *whoosh* it's a phone.

And I don't see how the X6 announcement has anything to do with the n900 anyway...the X6 is a symbian device.

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maybe they need multitouch... but not a capacitive screen^^ i hate these screens.

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Not true at all. The Nokia 5800 is Nokia's best-selling smartphone right now, it's selling on a similar scale to the iPhone and it has a plain old resistive touchscreen with single touch and no keypad.

You might like multitouch and it might be useful in some situations but it is not mandatory. If it was mandatory why are so many non-keyboard non-multitouch touchscreen phones selling so well?

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Hey, texrat ripoff.... slow your roll, troll.

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Incidentally, resistive and capacitive technologies both have their advantages. This idea that capacitive is always better than resistive isn't true:

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/featu...ts_can_win.php

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i don't like how you talk to him, although he is not texrat...

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1st..I've had this username on *numerous* tech boards for *years*...so I might just as well point to texrat as ripping *me* off (though I won't do that, since he's not done anything to me to warrant such an exchange). Second, I'm not trolling..I'm pointing out flaws in your logic. If you don't like it, try saying something profound and/or intelligent.

Have a nice day ;)

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My reply is OUTSIDE.

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i would like to anti-thanks...

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Hey man, my original comment was an opinion. Do i really need to IMHO in front of it? yeesh.

I didn't say I came down from on high, and this is my decree.

My whole point was, it puzzled me that if they were coming out with an iphone killer anyway, they didnt need to shrinkwrap the n900 into being a phone.

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Well, maybe not mandatory, but it is a huge improvement for games, typing and many other usage UX.

So there will be a device on Mameo with capacitive display. Will you wait for that one or you will buy the N900?

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Well, I see that a profound and/or intelligent statement from you is not forthcoming after all, given your response. So sad.

But back on topic, I'm glad to see nokia dip their toe into the capacitive pool. I think both technologies have their place, and in the American market I think capacitive probably has an edge (if done well) given the runaway popularity of the iphone. Time will tell.

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I used to think that way, too, but it ignores the fact that one pays for a cellular radio they didn't need.

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Ah, I was too hasty after all. Despite your crude attack on me earlier, I'll give you props for that.

The difference is: the X6 is no iphone killer. It's a nicer 5800 with a capacitive screen with unlimited music downloads. The N900, with it's far more extensible maemo environment, as far better positioned to take on the iphone (and android, for that matter). Different strokes for different folks...and all that...but I think the nokia folks themselves would have a little chuckle if someone seriously suggested that the X6 was poised to take on the iphone market space.

And again, if you don't want to use the n900 has a phone, don't put a SIM in it. It will still tether via bluetooth to another phone just as the N770, N800, and N810 before it did. I don't see the issue here. And again, for the rest of us who only want to carry a single device that does everything....HOORAY FOR NOKIA PUTTING A CELLULAR ENGINE IN IT!!!

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*sigh*

I have no fight here. But on the other hand, you'll find my user name goes back about 15 years and pulls up a lot of garbage on Google. ;)

I can co-exist though.

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True enough. However, the capability of getting a carrier subsidy (bringing the cost way down..potentially to zero) outweighs that "un-needed" cellular baggage in many markets. Perhaps even the U.S. if T-mobile picks it up. Just because you get it on contract doesn't mean you HAVE to put your sim card in it...keep your SIM in your current phone and enjoy your free/cheap tablet ;)

Again, that might not be the reality of all markets in which the N900 will be available...but that was the clear motivation as expressed by Nokia in the keynote speeches.

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define: iPhone-Killer.
a phone, that does exactly the same as the iPhone but just is build by another company??? no, thanks.
i'm really pissed off, that everyone around me seems to "know" that capacitive is always better than resistive. then i give them my n810 and ALL OF THEM said that this device totally kicks iPhones *** (if it were a mobile phone). they were very very surprised that there are actually better screens outside than the iPhone's screen. they love it to paint something usefull (thanks lcuk for liqbase) with a stylus.
so i don't see the point why you're complaining about the n900 phone capabilities. or that a capacitive screen automatically is a iPhone-killer feature... if you don't like the phone inside of the n900... don't use it^^. but did YOU see the point of the n900? nokia don't need to hype a phone. they only need to use all theses hyped features (facebook, twitter and so on)(that in my opinion destroy all REAL social interaction but at the same time provide very fast information (twitter)).. then everyone want's to have their PHONE!!

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smaller screen, no dpad, 3 row keyboard = :(

edited OUTSIDE post... you've been downgraded ;)

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You are really making something out of nothing, honestly.

I made no reference to capacitive > resistive or vice versa.

Maybe you need to up your dosage...............

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okay, you're right, i'm sorry. it's just in my head/heart for soooo long. :p

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Damn, there be some sensitive folk around here.

I did like the whole "whoosh" thing. I personal like the option of having 3G although I doubt I will use it. It is more the carrier fees then the cost of the radio that bothers me.

On topic: I like the glass screen of capacitive, but prefer the anything goes touch of resistive.

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It's okay man, let it go :)

Opinions are like a**holes.... everybody's got one, and most of em stink...

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Can we make an "I HATE IPHONE" thread somewhere if it's not already in the forum?

It'd serve as cheap therapy for the many fanboys here it seems :D

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yeaaaaaah!!!!!

edit: as you wish: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=321051

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LOL yeah I saw the outside update. Thanks, I think.

Anyway, you do have a point regarding the dpad. However, given the immensely improved touchscreen responsiveness and such, I don't think it's a big of a loss as many make it out to be. And the 3 row keyboard doesn't bother me a bit, personally..but perhaps I'm just weird. It's a HUGE step up from the T9 I have on my N95 or the virtual-only keyboard I'm stuck with on my N800 ;) And since my N800 doesn't really fit in my pockets that well, I rarely have it with me unless I have a very specific purpose for it in mind (taking a wireless survey, traveling, etc). I've got friends who have a N810 who are the same way. What use is a Dpad if you find yourself never taking the device with you? Much better to reduce the size a tad, integrate all the needed functionality, and have something that you'll actually use outside the house (you know, that whole "mobile" thing..) :D

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@zehjotkah: go for it. OUTSIDE CUPERTINO: Trash talking Apple.

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Why see X6 as an iPhone killer - just because has the same price unlocked (about euro 450 or $690) or because both don't have keyboards and have capacitive screen? Does X6 have multi-touch?

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About the X6 and its capacitive screen, read techradar:

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Heh, sad but true.

Well, at least in the U.S. the various media company contracts will help make the decision for them...don't hold your breath on it being available in the U.S. anytime soon since Nokia will *only* sell it with "comes with music". Somehow I don't see our beloved RIAA playing ball in this market (though I hope I'm wrong!).

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Again: it depends on usage.

The d-pad can take the sort of abuse heavy gameplay deals out. The screen... not so much.

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True...though the accelerometer (coupled with the arrow keys and/or WASD controls) can take the place of the d-pad in many applications. For sure it's a loss in some cases, but IMHO the plusses of the current design far outweigh the minuses.

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thanks :D

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I believe they obtained the patent for it. But it's being challenged by several companies and Elan (I think in Taiwan) filed a patent suit against Apple. But I think referring to multi-touch on their laptops, not the iPhone and iPod Touches.

I believe the Pre has multi-touch, and Android is capable of it (proven through hacking). Google is just playing nice at Apple's request for now on multi-touch though.

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Rumor is it comes with Android 2.0. Palm has a nice patent portfolio btw. I'm sure Nokia has a nice arsenal as well. So it'd just be cross licensing and such.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/28/a...epth-analysis/

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How is a capacitive screen supposed to work with a full page browser pumping its output at you through a 3.5 ", WVGA screen?
Isn't there an accuracy issue? Click-able control elements on even some mobile web pages are actually quite small. I have a hard enough time selecting check boxes with a stylus on a 4.1 " resistive screen sometimes.

Maybe the next poll should have another option:

"Select this option if you are using a capacitive touch screen."

Could a capacitive touchscreen user do it?

I'm not trying to be difficult but I had written off capacitive as being more expensive and less capable than a comparably sized resistive screen. Other than multi touch and the ability to use a glass surface with a capacitive touchscreen, has anything changed recently to make capacitive more competetive?

Also, wasn't there other issues with using a capacitive touch screen when it is below freezing? Has this changed too?