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jsa 2010-01-29 23:50

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
About dedication to the community, I'd like to point out that Quim Gil is posting here in a more or less official capacity at 1:30 AM(!) his local time at a friday night. My respects.

danramos 2010-01-29 23:56

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lind1e (Post 501798)
If the designers of X Windows built cars, there would be no fewer than five steering wheels hidden about the cockpit, none of which followed the same principles - but you'd be able to shift gears with your car stereo. Useful feature, that.
-- Marcus J. Ranum, Digital Equipment Corporation

which is rather funny.

HAH! It's funny, alright. To think that the more open X Window System (singular, not plural, btw) is still here while Digital's GEM is gone to obscure history.

crash16 2010-01-29 23:59

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
i bought an n900 thinking that is the best phone on the market! but i think i changed my mind because you can't do anything with it. there are no applications to download....nothing! and more than that has a lot of bugs, no portatrit mode....it sucks

qgil 2010-01-30 00:01

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 501814)
Sure, you're making harmattan great - but evidently that does absolutely nothing for those that bought the N900 and have paid Nokia now.

Your words, based on your thoughts. Allow me to disagree. :)

Again, I recommend you to come back to this topic after the Harmattan alpha release.

fatalsaint 2010-01-30 00:05

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qgil (Post 501843)
Your words, based on your thoughts. Allow me to disagree. :)

Again, I recommend you to come back to this topic after the Harmattan alpha release.

Which is fine but it's not really "based on my thoughts". It's based on the information I have available to me at this time.. and I've made those clear. I don't randomly go around making wild accusations or drawing uneducated conclusions for my own amusement.

We have bug reports being held to harmattan, and a Nokia VP saying Harmattan will not be on the N900.

Other than that.. no official word on backporting, maintaining or any other aspect of anything. I respect you're an "insider" and may have inside information I do not.. but unfortunately we are not able to base conclusion on information we do not have.

Thus, maybe you know about backporting possibilities.. or maybe you know that M6 will actually be, in some capacity, available to the N900.. but whatever it is that makes you so optimistic is not public knowledge - and that in and of itself is a problem to the consumer.

I have not yet purchased an N900, and this information gives me pause of whether or not I will. Thus, something official should be released to reassure current and/or future N900 users that they aren't garbage. Cuz so far, aside from your word, there hasn't really been anything to the contrary.. but there HAS been what I said above.

crash16 2010-01-30 00:07

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
what can i do with that if i won't be able to install it on my n900?..i feel so dissapointed about the fact that i spend 500£ on this useless phone:(...i like it, is powerfull, but what can i do with power if there is no "brain"?

javispedro 2010-01-30 00:09

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 501814)
I don't really call it "open development" practices.. if it were open - We'd get harmattan on the N900 and this entire debate would be a non-issue.

Sigh... if it weren't open, there wouldn't have been a word about Harmattan until the day after the N900+1 is in stores. Save for "selected parties". Thus no complains until the N900+1 comes and everyone suddenly forgets about the N900.

fatalsaint 2010-01-30 00:13

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by javispedro (Post 501852)
Sigh... if it weren't open, there wouldn't have been a word about Harmattan until the day after the N900+1 is in stores. Save for "selected parties". Thus no complains until the N900+1 comes and everyone suddenly forgets about the N900.

Now we're debating between "some level" of openness, closedness, and fully open... all the while avoiding the point I was trying to make.

*sigh* is accurate.

zwer 2010-01-30 00:14

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crash16 (Post 501850)
i like it, is powerfull, but what can i do with power if there is no "brain"?

You have no idea how right you are... Tho I'm sure we are not referring to the same type of brain. :rolleyes:

danramos 2010-01-30 00:19

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crash16 (Post 501839)
i bought an n900 thinking that is the best phone on the market! but i think i changed my mind because you can't do anything with it. there are no applications to download....nothing! and more than that has a lot of bugs, no portatrit mode....it sucks

Although I'm sour on the N900, your complaints don't make sense. What type of applications are you looking for that you couldn't find on the N900? More importantly, being such a newly released product, you have to give it a little time for the applications to keep rolling in and before bugs are worked out in general. I can't speak to the portrait mode--I thought the N900 had a portrait mode. And then, I prefer landscape for most things myself anyway, but that's small relief to someone that prefers portrait. I wouldn't, quite yet, be so defeated by the things you're pointing out.


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