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Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?

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Originally Posted by crash16 (Post 501891)

Maybe you are right but what will happen if there will be released another phone with some more things the n900 doesn't have...and you won't get any updates, games, proper apps...etc. AND all the developers will forget that exists. As about sygic nav is not released because of nokia. Does anyoane have a clue why?

I think it'd be fine, so long as the OS is still available on both devices. Simply having different or more features on a newer device doesn't make a current device orphaned so long as the software is available for both and recognizes that there CAN be different hardware (as desktop apps do, for instance).

I thought Sygic was just awaiting approval from Nokia. Did you find out one way or the other?

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Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 501903)

Oh so you already have inside information that Nokia has (in the past few days) dropped support for the N900 entirely?
Or are you just trolling because you don't like the fact that the N900 has a cellular modem?

hehe.. that's ADORABLE, how you called someone a troll as you troll on through yourself. But no, I was asking whether that was the case.

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Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 501903)

The moment the G1 (or any Android device for sale now) is dropped from sale you will see support dry up instantly. Even if you have a bug in a library that can't be upgraded without upgrading some driver, you will not get assistance.

In the meantime, they DID get pretty good jumps in upgrades. I think you're confusing a device that was released a year and a half ago, with a device that was released less than 3 months ago.

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Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 501903)

That said, between how open Maemo is and with Mer moving forward, if a usable install for the N900 is ready before the next device is out I think a lot of complaints will be moot, and Nokia will show themselves willing to at least give the community enough support to keep their devices alive as long as possible.

Like actual customer support, parts and styluses? Your definition of support is myopic.

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Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 501903)

Also, I don't think the days of a WiFi only internet tablet are coming back. WiFi is extremely restricting and had the N900 not come with GSM I'd probably be using an Android device now, disappointed in how limited the OS is and still thinking "if only..."

Maybe ... you're ... right!

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?

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Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 501918)

Portable?... eh.. The Google Market works in older and newer androids alike due to the davlik VM environment...

No; it works on multiple devices because Android has a stable API along versions. Which can either mean "good API design abilities" (usual commercial PoV) or "very slow progress" (Linus' PoV).

(It doesn't help that we build binaries for armv7, but "flipping the switch" and starting building armv4 binaries which would even work on the 770 is way more trivial than creating a VM, and the end result might be even faster).

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?

Ok, my analogy is imperfect. Guilty as charged. Vista is not a N900. But it still gets the general idea across. Which is...most bugfixes and new features are added in new releases, not existing ones, be it hardware or software. Sometimes new software demands new hardware. Sometimes new hardware demands new software. The original iPhone never got retrofitted for 3G. iPhone owners cussed and wanted discounts on iPhone 3Gs. Windows 2000 never got IE7 and tabbed browsing. Users were pissed. The G1 won't ever get Android 2x. People who have a 2 month old G1 are ticked. Etc., etc. Usually, to get new stuff ya gotta buy new stuff. Whatever. You get the idea. Cutting-edge tech is a fast-moving thing. Hang on or get off the bus.

I'm quite sure that whether I ever get Maemo 6 or not, my N900 will serve me well for a long time. And that Nokia will support it with at least basic, necessary bugfixes for, at the minimum, as long as it remains on the market.

Again, I'm very happy with mine. Wouldn't trade it for anything else out there. If you're concerned, well, DON'T BUY ONE! If you're not, maybe get one, after doing your homework. If you already have one, relax and enjoy the most powerful pocket computer on the planet. But don't whine endlessly about events yet to be determined, especially if you haven't made the investment.

I'm outta this thread...it's gotten as ridiculous as Android forum stuff..."...is the G1 gonna get Cupcake? It better or I'm goin' WinMO or iPhone!" Arrrrgggghhhh!!!! I'm gonna go hotrod a carpet cleaner or something...

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?

just by the means how this thread explodes, how can the N900 die with maemo 5? there will be tons of N900 users out there when maemoe 6 arrives on a new phone. only a few will be willing to spend another 500€ for a new phone after just bought the N900 6 month ago.

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?

This thread should die. It's like having a conversation with a macfanboy and showing the n900 to them yet they will argue to no end about the *cough* 4G iphone *cough*. Some people need to use it NOW... like in NOW...

I love my n900, 3 weeks into it after being on iphone from '07. dont miss it. dont need gps/nav, I live on an island. lol.

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?

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Originally Posted by qgil (Post 501587)

Now, everybody should have clear that this is not a customer care channel. If you want to exercise your customer rights or plainly complain as a Nokia customer there are several ways to do it.

Yes, you are right that maemo.org should be focus on other subjects rather than complains. The problem is that customer care channels are failing to give clients the proper attention....

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?

I'm sure they'll sell Maemo 6 to you all for $99.99.

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?

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Originally Posted by russo_br (Post 501932)

Yes, you are right that maemo.org should be focus on other subjects rather than complains. The problem is that customer care channels are failing to give clients the proper attention....

Well I'm not a lawyer, but don't they have some kind of obligation to do so?

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?

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Originally Posted by qgil (Post 501843)

Your words, based on your thoughts. Allow me to disagree. :)

Again, I recommend you to come back to this topic after the Harmattan alpha release.

Oh boy Oh boy, can't wait!! ^_^

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?

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Originally Posted by omeriko9 (Post 501934)

Well I'm not a lawyer, but don't they have some kind of obligation to do so?

I'm very sorry to inform you that there are currently no laws governing customer care telling you whether your handset can or cannot be upgraded to the latest OS that is to be released at some point between 6 and 12 months from now..

I'm hoping for Maemo 6 on N900 as much as the next guy, but let's be reasonable?