maemo.org - Talk

maemo.org - Talk (https://talk.maemo.org/index.php)
-   MeeGo / Harmattan (https://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=45)
-   -   Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900? (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=31346)

russo_br 2010-01-30 02:31

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by omeriko9 (Post 501934)
Well I'm not a lawyer, but don't they have some kind of obligation to do so?

Unfortunately I don't think it would be a legal obligation to have a GOOD customer care, like confirming if N900 will have Maemo6. Even it may not be an obligation still is a decisive aspect for retaining customers, and competitors are probably doing a better work... I guess you wouldn't even see lots of mention about N900 on Apple fanboys or Android forums...

cenwesi 2010-01-30 02:34

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
Ok i can't believe i read this whole thread. I do believe nokia will release m6 for the n900. Here is why i think they will and again i might be wrong. It seems to me they are fixing most if not all the bugs we reported in m5 to m6. They are probably will release a new update with these fixes for m5 that will probably down the road get us ready for m6. It doesn't make sense that nokia will screw us up like this. They should remember that we the customers have more power than they do. We decide if they stay in business or not. Can you imagine if we all show up in the next meeting when they are about to announce or release the next N9x0 and complain and ***** right in the middle of the announcement how the current N900 customers have being ignored or ripped of. If we make use of the internet and start posting all over the place how the new n9x0 new customers might be treated that might not be so good for nokia's revenue down the road. All it takes is for us all to start a movement and believe me they will listen and figure something out :). Just hoping nokia doesn't make us do something THEY will regret.

penguinbait 2010-01-30 02:55

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qgil
Now, everybody should have clear that this is not a customer care channel. If you want to exercise your customer rights or plainly complain as a Nokia customer there are several ways to do it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by russo_br (Post 501932)
Yes, you are right that maemo.org should be focus on other subjects rather than complains. The problem is that customer care channels are failing to give clients the proper attention....


ITT and now talk.maemo.org is a support organization IMO. That is why people come here. Whether wanted or not, whether official or not. We are providing customer support 24x7.

Customer care, maybe that's different than customer support? However I hope we can continue to have open conversations about our complaints. This is how they get resolved.

Cue 2010-01-30 03:25

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?
 
personally I do not care if we get maemo 6, it's just a name. what I'm worried about is maemo 5 not improving simply because they want to add a given feature to 6. I understand hardware limitations so I'm not asking for the impossible but if a feature is possible and isn't added or in some cases not fixed because they would rather forget about 5 and do it for 6. Then I won't be too happy.

Flandry 2010-01-30 03:27

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 501978)
ITT and now talk.maemo.org is a support organization IMO. That is why people come here. Whether wanted or not, whether official or not. We are providing customer support 24x7.

Customer care, maybe that's different than customer support? However I hope we can continue to have open conversations about our complaints. This is how they get resolved.

Yes, but it is important that those coming here for support realize that maemo is not Nokia. It's an easy mistake to make, and leads to extra angst and misplaced (IMO) vitriol.

qole 2010-01-30 03:39

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 501761)
...So in some ways, in all the organisation build-up and hacking day after day, we forgot to remember about the goal - having a usable OS by the user. In practice, we didn't ask for that much relicensing and those we asked for, we got.

But the invitation still stands, I'd say. If we needed recompiles, I'm sure it would be possible to work it out somehow - especially with my role as distmaster now.

I still want to see our Distmaster guide the final bugfix version of Diablo out the door as a community SSU. That acomplishment would put a lot of these angsty threads to rest; people would see that Nokia does help our community support old devices. The next step would be getting Mer into a usable state. Really, it doesn't need to be beautiful or feature packed, but it needs to the basic stuff.

As for all the council quitting bluster -- Whatever. You got a Big Agenda you want to push? Run for council yourself.

I myself am more interested in backporting features to Maemo 5, cherry picking the interesting stuff and adding it to what I've got...

I don't want an iPhone clone, I want a handheld Linux distro. And "multi-touch capacitive screen" screams "iPhone" to me. Big fat greasy fingers sliding sloppily around a touch screen may appeal to a lot of people. Not to me. I love a high resolution screen and a precision stylus. The more you go away from the desktop paradigm of keyboard and (single, precise) pointer, the fewer productivity apps will work with any ease on the device... :(

jvtc10 2010-01-30 03:50

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
i like too much my n900 thats enough for me!
use one for such a time and you gonna realize what i'm talking about.
and don't be nervous whit nokia, they now how to do.

hteink.min 2010-01-30 04:12

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?
 
i dont care about maemo6.. as long as my m5 do the front cam..gps voice navigation n potrait mode... if nokia didnt fix it.. they gonna loose the big fan.. i m not going for another nokia device nor recommend to anyone .. so far i recommended n97 to my closee friend.. he was angry bec there is no skype which being promised.. now he is enjoying it bec of free ovi maps.. but who knows nokia has all sort of suprise to keep it fans.. nokia just have to sure that its connection wth big fans are still in touch.. word of mouth is the strongest marketing tool n nokia has to realize not to disspoint its core customer

zwer 2010-01-30 05:04

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 501999)
I don't want an iPhone clone, I want a handheld Linux distro. And "multi-touch capacitive screen" screams "iPhone" to me. Big fat greasy fingers sliding sloppily around a touch screen may appeal to a lot of people. Not to me. I love a high resolution screen and a precision stylus. The more you go away from the desktop paradigm of keyboard and (single, precise) pointer, the fewer productivity apps will work with any ease on the device... :(

Couldn't agree more. That is partly why I am very much interested in the future of N900, besides the general interest in the Maemo platform from a user/developer perspective - if the rummors are true, N900 might very well be my only Maemo device for a long time. Maybe even the one and only if Nokia decides to go with the flow. I won't buy a capacitive screen device (with multi-touch I am ok, there are precise resistive solutions out there), or a device without a hardware keyboard, no matter of the rest of the hardware. Those two are the clear deal breakers for me. I won't trade precision, haptic feedback and speed for some hipsterish gimmicky features. I'm buying a device that I want to use, not show-off.

And that is a prime reason why I'd like to see full M6 running on the N900 - if I am to develop for the Maemo platform, I don't want to limit myself to just M5, and I refuse to buy an iPhone clone, as you've put it, under any circumstance, so I'd have to rely on the SDK to testbench my apps which is nowhere near to testing om the device...

bandora 2010-01-30 05:29

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
Lets all write an official letter to Bill Gates or anyone who's extremely rich to donate to us new Nokia phones every 6 months.. It would be like spending pennies for them.. :D


All times are GMT. The time now is 16:30.

vBulletin® Version 3.8.8