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smackpotato 2009-09-12 01:31

the next non phone maemo device
 
What would you like to see on the next maemo non-phone device. I would like to see 1024x600 resolution and a 5 row keyboard. I would like to see a device for the den more than a portable device

kanishou 2009-09-12 01:48

Re: the next non phone maemo device
 
Well Maemo is intended for pocketable devices. There are other Linux based UIs that might be better suited for this kind of tablet device.

verumgero 2009-09-12 06:35

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The fact that I can carry my n800 in my pocket is a big deal. I wouldn't want to see the tablets get too much larger than they are.

lma 2009-09-12 06:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smackpotato (Post 325668)
What would you like to see on the next maemo non-phone device.

  • 4-5" display (higher resolution welcome but very unlikely for Fremantle at least).
  • Fuller QWERTY keyboard (or no physical keyboard and a return of the stylus one, but that's also very unlikely).
  • Full size SD slot, accessible externally.
  • Mini-USB.
  • Full size stand.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kanishou (Post 325670)
Well Maemo is intended for pocketable devices. There are other Linux based UIs that might be better suited for this kind of tablet device.

You can get 1024x600 (or 1000x600, same aspect ratio as 800x480) in pocket-sized LCDs these days, see for example the Sony UX280P or the Sharp Netwalker (which aren't pocketable for other reasons).

gerbick 2009-09-12 06:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smackpotato (Post 325668)
What would you like to see on the next maemo non-phone device

Simple. I want Harmattan/Maemo 6. I'm going to skip Maemo 5 almost totally.

benny1967 2009-09-12 07:51

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it really doesn't matter all that much if it has cell radio and the phone application built in. i think i could get myself to using at least the 3G data connection and SMS/MMS.

what's essential though is a 4"-5"-screen plus everything the N900 has inside. keyboard is optional, but if present, if must at least be 4-row, better 5.

also, i want all the hardware keys the 770/N800 had, and i want them all on the front. and finally: metal, no plastic.

Architengi 2009-09-12 09:49

Re: the next non phone maemo device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smackpotato (Post 325668)
What would you like to see on the next maemo non-phone device. I would like to see 1024x600 resolution and a 5 row keyboard. I would like to see a device for the den more than a portable device

I would like to see an HD video camera (720 or 1080), optical zoom at least 3x, 8 MP would be nice, and I want Java and N-Gage (a D-Pad - maybe one like the Mototola Cliq has... or one like E72 has with the center button being also an optical pad)

kanishou 2009-09-12 11:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lma (Post 325707)
You can get 1024x600 (or 1000x600, same aspect ratio as 800x480) in pocket-sized LCDs these days, see for example the Sony UX280P or the Sharp Netwalker (which aren't pocketable for other reasons).

Yes, of course. I was referring to "more so than a portable device". I'd say there is little use in making a device pocketable, if it's not meant to be portable. :)

eiffel 2009-09-12 13:22

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A bigger screen, e.g. 4.1" as in the N810. The overall device could still be smaller than the N810, which would be pocketable for many users.

It doesn't need to have a physical keyboard, but if it has a keyboard it should be a good one. The HTC Touch 2 Pro keyboard is getting very positive reviews. It HTC can do it, so can Nokia. It ain't gonna happen though, because Nokia has said they want to standardise user expectations for Nokia keyboards around what is offered by the N900 and N97 mini.

A bigger battery. If I can browse the web solidly for four hours, or if I can capture a GPS trace from a one-day hike, then I'll be happy.

Roger

lma 2009-09-12 16:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eiffel (Post 325804)
Nokia has said they want to standardise user expectations for Nokia keyboards around what is offered by the N900 and N97 mini.

They have? ! Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a reference to the exact wording? Leaving aside whether standardising on something so limited is a good idea, they don't seem to have done a very good job at it: the N900 and N97mini symbol layouts are completely different so there's no benefit to a user swapping between the devices.

FRZ 2009-09-12 16:30

Re: the next non phone maemo device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lma (Post 325707)
  • 4-5" display (higher resolution welcome but very unlikely for Fremantle at least).
  • Fuller QWERTY keyboard (or no physical keyboard and a return of the stylus one, but that's also very unlikely).
  • Full size SD slot, accessible externally.
  • Mini-USB.
  • Full size stand.



You can get 1024x600 (or 1000x600, same aspect ratio as 800x480) in pocket-sized LCDs these days, see for example the Sony UX280P or the Sharp Netwalker (which aren't pocketable for other reasons).

I cann see this possible with a device the same size as the N810. A tilting screen would be really nice too.

pelago 2009-09-12 16:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lma (Post 325860)
They have? ! Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a reference to the exact wording? Leaving aside whether standardising on something so limited is a good idea, they don't seem to have done a very good job at it: the N900 and N97mini symbol layouts are completely different so there's no benefit to a user swapping between the devices.

Peter Schneider mentioned something about standardising to a three-line keyboard in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYrSv2pA95o

eiffel 2009-09-12 19:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pelago (Post 325866)
Peter Schneider mentioned something about standardising to a three-line keyboard in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYrSv2pA95o

Thanks pelago. Yes, that's the reference I had in mind. Here's what Peter said:

Quote:

Across our portfolio we wanted to introduce one way of having keyboards, so that people, whenever they pick up a Nokia device of a similar form factor, they actually get the same kind of keyboard.
So I don't think we're going to see 4-row and 5-row keyboards on this class of Nokia device any time soon.

Regards,
Roger

Thesandlord 2009-09-12 20:07

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Cheaper than unlocked n900, around 300-400 dollars new.

Same hardware, possibly same size/shape/keyboard of n810 would be nice.

Suurorca 2009-09-13 18:09

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I'm probably in the minority, but I rather liked the n900 keypad. It's nice and sensitive, and to me the small space bar is perfectly placed. I even like its tilting slide. If only it wasn't symbian...

lma 2009-09-13 18:23

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Do you mean the N97 perhaps? The N900 runs Maemo, and its keyboard isn't tilting.

christexaport 2009-09-13 18:48

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I'd like a device like this:
http://www.symbian-freak.com/news/00...t_by_chris.htm

Add Maemo 5/6 support, a portrait T9 keypad, and a dpad on the face of the device. I've had this dream for awhile now. Anyone able to help me refine my design or have any questions/criticism about the form factor?

christopherbalz 2009-09-24 05:40

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  • Pocketable but can be fat - prefer performance to small/light-weight
  • At least 4.1" screen
  • A good battery to better handle Flash
  • At least 250 MB RAM
  • Faster hardware; e.g., 800 mHz CPU
  • Fast SD card memory with lots of room to install a lot of apps ( had to hack my n800 to do so)
  • The pop-out, 180-degree rotatable camera that the n800 has, but with good resolution and
  • Keep support for Skype
  • Slide-out keyboard
  • Two options for Web browser: Both Khtml-based Midori in a finished state, and a finished Fennec


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