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aironeous 2009-09-13 22:12

I am done being patient and not complaining
 
look. Whoever made the tear browser you really really really need to fix that left dpad equals device crash ********! That **** has wasted so many hours of my time that I am now deciding to switch to a different browser. You better fix it or I will switch. That is very unacceptable!
I will put my money where my mouth is. I will give you 20 if you do this next paycheck pm me and i will send it to you.

ColdFusion 2009-09-13 22:18

Re: I am done being patient and not complaining
 
wow
:eek:

YoDude 2009-09-13 22:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdFusion (Post 326412)
wow
:eek:

+1
... and it begins. :rolleyes:

Addison 2009-09-13 22:37

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I have fury!!!!

lardman 2009-09-13 22:41

Re: I am done being patient and not complaining
 
Quote:

look. Whoever made the tear browser you really really really need to fix that left dpad equals device crash ********! That **** has wasted so many hours of my time that I am now deciding to switch to a different browser. You better fix it or I will switch. That is very unacceptable!
I will put my money where my mouth is. I will give you 20 if you do this next paycheck pm me and i will send it to you.
Or submit a patch yourself...?

wazd 2009-09-13 22:42

Re: I am done being patient and not complaining
 
Yeah! And add ponies right now!! I'm serial!

YoDude 2009-09-13 22:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wazd (Post 326423)
Yeah! And add ponies right now!! I'm serial!

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paulkoan 2009-09-13 22:55

Re: I am done being patient and not complaining
 
I also wish to not be patient and complain about the Tear Browser game. I can see it is a sort of point and click adventure type game, but most of the scene descriptions are very boring.

There doesn't seem to be any purpose for it - it seems like you can click and click forever and you get to new rooms, but I don't see how to "win".

timsamoff 2009-09-14 01:58

Re: I am done being patient and not complaining
 
To tell you the truth, I am completely fed up with browsing the web. I've wasted so many hours when I know there's got to be a way to know everything now.

Tim

Texrat 2009-09-14 02:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wazd (Post 326423)
Yeah! And add ponies right now!! I'm serial!

also monkeys, super-serial!!!

VulcanRidr 2009-09-14 02:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by timsamoff (Post 326512)
To tell you the truth, I am completely fed up with browsing the web. I've wasted so many hours when I know there's got to be a way to know everything now.

Tim

Thats it,Tim! We can start marketing a Matrix-esque brain tap tied to a WIMAX receiver...We'll get rich! :cool:

--vr

Thesandlord 2009-09-14 02:51

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lol


just lol

Addison 2009-09-14 03:23

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Quote:

what a dink. some people just don't get it..
Hey now. Let's not start bringing up my sex life. :(

buurmas 2009-09-14 03:43

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From the bug tracker. Yeah, this is one of the nastiest Tear bugs. I've just been working around after getting burned & finally figuring out the pattern. The silver lining is that at least Tear's crash recovery gets you your page back, although maybe not your text.

Bundyo 2009-09-14 05:12

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Lets just say - it will be Fixed in Fremantle :D

Now seriously: This and a number of other problems (like strange chars on the pages and the maxlength issue) are probably caused by the usage of GLib for Unicode handling (and libidn). The change in Diablo was dictated by the too big 40MB libicu library that is used for WebKit by default. However in Fremantle I'm going to update the WebKit library to its libsoup version and will leave the libicu Unicode handling in.

munky261 2009-09-14 07:05

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I agree with Texrat about adding the monkeys. They make me smile. :) LOL

deadmalc 2009-09-14 07:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by munky261 (Post 326588)
I agree with Texrat about adding the monkeys. They make me smile. :) LOL

pfft...

you want badgers not monkeys, everyone knows that ;-)

http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com

ysss 2009-09-14 07:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JayOnThaBeat (Post 326599)
That was two minutes of my life I don't mind losing.

Does it just keep looping?

The monkeys show up in the 11th minute

ColdFusion 2009-09-14 08:09

Re: I am done being patient and not complaining
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aironeous (Post 326409)
You better fix it or I will switch.

Guys you're all joking but I think he's serious... He will switch to an other browser!

ysss 2009-09-14 08:19

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As ridiculous as his post may seem from 'our' point of view, meaning those who are already aware how FOSS works in general (ie: you get it for free, you get access to the source code, you can fix it yourself if it's not broken, you can help by filing bugfixes, etc)... I think we have to appreciate a user that cares about the community's project as much as he does.

Obviously it's something he's liked and cared about, otherwise why would he even care to post about it or offer $20 of his own money? (IE: Most browsers are free, and those alternative browsers in the iPhone AppStore are $0.99 to $4.99 at most.)

Is this how we should treat people\customers that cares about our work?

ColdFusion 2009-09-14 08:32

Re: I am done being patient and not complaining
 
I think Bundyo treated him very well, he explained what the problem was, how and when it'll be fixed. Despite aironeous not being his customer.

You can't just go and demand and threaten people, no matter if you're paying or not. One can care about the community's project without being obnoxious.

Is this how we should let people\customers treat us and our work?

Architengi 2009-09-14 08:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdFusion (Post 326615)
I think Bundyo treated him very well, he explained what the problem was, how and when it'll be fixed. Despite aironeous not being his customer.

You can't just go and demand and threaten people, no matter if you're paying or not. One can care about the community's project without being obnoxious.

Is this how we should let people\customers treat us and our work?

I totally agree, there is a LOT of work in software development and a Internet browser is not an easy task. To submit feedback should be appreciated, but more decency when criticize the application is also good. If there is no respect, then that person should learn programming and fix it by himself, aaahah this path will take him couple of years learning curve if he is an outsider... then complain nicely... :D

ysss 2009-09-14 09:00

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@CF: Oh I completely agree, but I don't think retaliating and ridiculing the OP was the best way to go about it either. As you've pointed out yourself with bundyo's reaction.. (kudos to him btw).

ColdFusion 2009-09-14 09:32

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Well I expected that he'd either be ignored or told to stfu. So I guess he got the better treatment.
Only customer support people endure being yelled at for stuff like this. No normal person would put up with that.

buurmas 2009-09-14 17:39

Re: I am done being patient and not complaining
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 326565)
Lets just say - it will be Fixed in Fremantle :D

Now seriously: This and a number of other problems (like strange chars on the pages and the maxlength issue) are probably caused by the usage of GLib for Unicode handling (and libidn). The change in Diablo was dictated by the too big 40MB libicu library that is used for WebKit by default. However in Fremantle I'm going to update the WebKit library to its libsoup version and will leave the libicu Unicode handling in.

Can it be fixed in Mer?

Bundyo 2009-09-14 17:42

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Probably, they use Fremantle's libs, so they should have updated libsoup to 2.4.

timsamoff 2009-09-14 18:13

Re: I am done being patient and not complaining
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 326612)
As ridiculous as his post may seem from 'our' point of view, meaning those who are already aware how FOSS works in general (ie: you get it for free, you get access to the source code, you can fix it yourself if it's not broken, you can help by filing bugfixes, etc)... I think we have to appreciate a user that cares about the community's project as much as he does.

Obviously it's something he's liked and cared about, otherwise why would he even care to post about it or offer $20 of his own money? (IE: Most browsers are free, and those alternative browsers in the iPhone AppStore are $0.99 to $4.99 at most.)

Is this how we should treat people\customers that cares about our work?

I agree with you for the most part. And, as many of you know, I'm not the kind of guy who unabashedly lashes out at forum posters here. But, even after the fact, you've got to admit that even the n00biest of forum users (not to mention tablet users) usually approach issues in a much more civilized -- and less belligerent -- manner.

No excuses, though... If I offended anyone, I apologize (http://sadviolin.com).

Tim


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