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-   Nokia N900 (https://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=44)
-   -   Java for Maemo 5 (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=31678)

shadowjk 2009-12-27 12:12
Re: Java for Maemo 5
 
JavaME doesn't add anything to a browser. If you want support for java applets you probably want JavaSE.

bsving 2009-12-27 15:02
Re: Java for Maemo 5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JPvdBos (Post 442509)
I put in a vote for Java ME. The reason is:

- On any computer equipped with a browser (that includes Java) I can reach my workstation.
- The N900 has a great browser which works wonderful.
- It just lacks the Java support needed.

To do what? Use Secure Global Desktop (SGD) to reach my workstation (safely placed in a datacenter) and get work done.

For more on SGD: Wiki page 1.
For the type of Java support needed: Wiki page 2.

:) I really hope Java support will arrive soon. It would finish the "computer in your pocket".
I agree. In addition, most internet banks need java support. No Java - no money, no money - no fun. Java is a must, at least if the N900 is to be a "mobile computer".

JPvdBos 2009-12-28 09:17
Re: Java for Maemo 5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bsving (Post 442985)
I agree...".
Hi!
If I understand this discussion thread correctly - you are invited to vote in the Brainstorm section to make your opinion heard.
Please refer to post: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=149
Jan-Paul

JPvdBos 2009-12-28 09:21
Re: Java for Maemo 5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shadowjk (Post 442875)
JavaME doesn't add anything to a browser. If you want support for java applets you probably want JavaSE.
I understand your remark, thanks. The application I'm trying to use on the N900 is SUN Secure Global Desktop.

It uses the browser to perform authorization (log-in on an HTTPS connection) and than starts an X11 session (on the client) that displays the remote computer (workstation). So the actual application is outside the browser. And requires the JavaME.

At least - that's what I got from the Wiki pages in my previous post and my experience using this on an actual computer (both MAC and PC).

Regards,
Jan-Paul

shapeshifter 2009-12-28 09:23
Re: Java for Maemo 5
 
eww, java is appalling.
But it's also an industry standard :|

SGD? Why not ssh like normal people. >.> And if you seriously need a remote desktop, there's VNC, which you can also tunnel through ssh to encrypt. In any case, browser apps are a bad thing, and java is a bad thing. When I heard the n900 didn't even do java, I was like "yay, that's the phone for me". But I can still understand, that some people want it. But that's nothing more then just a sad fact.

JPvdBos 2009-12-28 09:30
Re: Java for Maemo 5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shapeshifter (Post 443669)
SGD? Why not ssh like normal people.
Hi Shapeshifter,
Forgive my ignorance - how could SSH provide access to the SSGD server? Where could I find out more to learn about this?
Thanx!
Jan-Paul

shapeshifter 2009-12-28 11:04
Re: Java for Maemo 5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JPvdBos (Post 443671)
how could SSH provide access to the SSGD server?
I'm sorry, ssh does not help with that. I was simply criticising the fact that people even use something like SGD, I'm guessing this was the choice of your employer. Stuff like SGD and lots of other java dependant stuff simply is reality in todays businesses as java is the industry standard. And I was just saying, that this is suboptimal.

You definitely need java.

vitaly_repin 2009-12-29 08:22
Re: Java for Maemo 5
 
It looks like, somebody needs to pay jalimo's guys attention to this thread.

There were positive promises here: http://lists.evolvis.org/pipermail/j...er/000418.html As far as I know, N900 is already in Sebastian's hands.

Update. Pinged Jalimo: http://lists.evolvis.org/pipermail/j...er/000429.html and http://lists.evolvis.org/pipermail/j...er/000430.html

Let's wait...

qole 2009-12-30 04:29
Re: Java for Maemo 5
 
This other thread has instructions for getting Sun's Java SE working fairly well on the N900.

ceefour 2010-03-14 22:05
Re: Java support on N900, the missing thing!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 349213)
You just end up with 2 toolkits, Swing and GTK (Maemo 5) or Qt (Maemo 6). Not recommended for the faint of heart although for backwards compatibility its either an option or not.

Ability to use Java applets is also sometimes required as example above.

I don't believe Java support on the device is going to be a killer feature though, but doesn't mean those who care should stop caring.

Can one not simply port their Java application to Qt Jambi? Provided one has access to source that is.

FWIW, I've made a stub for Java at Maemo wiki the old article was unnecessarily technical, out of date, and mostly about Nokia 770.
Unfortunately Qt Jambi has been discontinued.

http://qt.nokia.com/about/news/previ...ease-available


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