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deadmalc 2009-09-22 11:58
Re: N900 will not allow USB OTG!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ruskie (Post 331372)
And you're back to step 2... tedious setup ;) And of course you might have the horror of having one of those wifi cards that just loves to randomly bring down the entire system.
Which is why having SOP's, QA and UAT testing and change management comes in ;-) which makes the setup the least tedious part of the whole process!

Ratva 2009-09-22 12:54
Re: N900 will not allow USB OTG!
 
http://cgi.ebay.ie/-USB-3G-HSDPA-Mob...0825144001r210

http://www.simsim.lv/index.php?categoryID=2202

http://www.pixmania.com/fi/fi/286623...-wifi-air.html

http://www.coolcomputing.com/article.php?sid=3159

Are these possible solutions or not? How to get n900 to understand these devices? Is there something more like to put in pocket solution available. My opinnion is that wifi is maybe the solution if hacking won't work.

And Amazon has it's own too: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...F8&me=&seller=

JayOnThaBeat 2009-09-22 12:57
Re: N900 will not allow USB OTG!
 
http://www.world-wide-art.com/art/va.../goodgrief.jpg

allnameswereout 2009-09-22 14:07
Re: N900 will not allow USB OTG!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RobbH (Post 331374)
You know, I really don't have to justify my preference. It's not inherently "right" and you might even be able to define it as "wrong", but it's still my preference and that's what I'll base my purchasing decision on.

But, since you ask: I have a 16 GB card in my pocket computer, and a 32 GB flash drive in my pocket. Obviously, the flash drive can hold more than the pocket computer. Sometimes I want to access files on the flash drive. Do you seriously think I would choose to go to a desktop computer, transfer the files I need from the flash drive to the desktop, then from the desktop (DIRECTLY! -- as you put it) to the pocket computer?

Thanks, but I'll wait for a pocket computer that actually fits my needs, rather than adapting my work to a poorly designed (in terms of meeting my needs) pocket computer.
If, instead of 1x 32 GB flash, you would not want 2x 16 GB microSD as alternative I question whether you value the other advantages the N900 has to offer, and it makes me wonder what device you're comparing to which currently does fulfill your needs.

allnameswereout 2009-09-22 14:21
Re: N900 will not allow USB OTG!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ratva (Post 331426)
http://cgi.ebay.ie/-USB-3G-HSDPA-Mob...0825144001r210

http://www.simsim.lv/index.php?categoryID=2202

http://www.pixmania.com/fi/fi/286623...-wifi-air.html

http://www.coolcomputing.com/article.php?sid=3159

Are these possible solutions or not? How to get n900 to understand these devices? Is there something more like to put in pocket solution available. My opinnion is that wifi is maybe the solution if hacking won't work.

And Amazon has it's own too: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...F8&me=&seller=
Noh. I think this would suffice:
1) Linux (or *NIX) computer in small case. Low-power x86-32 or one of the RISC (PPC, ARM, ...).
2) Internal drive bay for 3"5 HDD.
3) One USB OTG port for CD/DVD burning or N900.
4) BlueTooth or WiFi for controlling the device over SSH, HTTPS. These interfaces also allow one to perform CD/DVD burning.
5) Then mounting NIT using SSHFS and then rsync or whatever.
6) Requires power adapter. Maybe add second USB EH port for powering up the NIT. Then you almost have a docking station.
7) The device would be a bit bigger than a standard 3"5 drive bay.

Yes, ofcourse it will cost money. However, I wonder, is this approx what USB OTG proponents would like to use?

thecursedfly 2009-09-22 14:43
Re: N900 will not allow USB OTG!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ratva (Post 331426)
maybe these two could work, dunno..
the first one looks really like a good solution, also in case of devices which require a powered hub.
though, I need to find more info/hands-on reviews; do they work well with maemo? do they work with any device instead of only as printer servers (looks like the case of the second one)? can I attach a DVD drive to it via USB and stream its contents to the N900?

anyway, a cable/software hack for the N900 microUsb is still preferrable... ;)

edit: review
edit 2: our use case model seems to be covered
edit 3: user manual

quingu 2009-09-22 14:44
Re: N900 will not allow USB OTG!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 331487)
Noh. I think this would suffice:
1) Linux (or *NIX) computer in small case. Low-power x86-32 or one of the RISC (PPC, ARM, ...).
2) Internal drive bay for 3"5 HDD.
3) One USB OTG port for CD/DVD burning or N900.
4) BlueTooth or WiFi for controlling the device over SSH, HTTPS. These interfaces also allow one to perform CD/DVD burning.
5) Then mounting NIT using SSHFS and then rsync or whatever.
6) Requires power adapter. Maybe add second USB EH port for powering up the NIT. Then you almost have a docking station.
7) The device would be a bit bigger than a standard 3"5 drive bay.
I think asus makes those... they're called Eee or something... perhaps someone can post a link.

:rolleyes:

allnameswereout 2009-09-22 14:54
Re: N900 will not allow USB OTG!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by quingu (Post 331504)
I think asus makes those... they're called Eee or something... perhaps someone can post a link.
Eh? Assuming it supports USB OTG since when does Eee come with 3"5 bay? It also comes with a LCD. Formfactor is not what I had in mind (compare to N800 + 3"5 or Soekris). And far too high horsepower for the purpose I mentioned. On a positive note it supposedly has a battery allowing the data to be accessable while travelling.

qole 2009-09-22 16:08
Re: N900 will not allow USB OTG!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by joppu (Post 331266)
Too bad N900 won't probably play back 720p smoothly.
Um, it doesn't have a 720p screen? It is a high resolution screen for a mobile device, but still half a million pixels short of 720p.

I'm not living in the 720p world yet. I guess when I am, I'll be upset about having to transcode for mobile devices, too.

Quote:
Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 331328)
The N900 playback quality will depend how well we can use the DSP and other extensions - the OMAP34340 should be very capable of 720p if the extensions are fully utilized.
I'm going to try to find some 720 source material and see what it looks like on the somewhat-optimised VLC player...

vinc17 2009-09-22 16:33
Re: N900 will not allow USB OTG!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RobbH (Post 331374)
You know, I really don't have to justify my preference. It's not inherently "right" and you might even be able to define it as "wrong", but it's still my preference and that's what I'll base my purchasing decision on.
But you can't blame Nokia for making choices that would satisfy most users. I'd say that most users will be happy with the N900 concerning file transfers with another computer (I'm talking about file transfers for use with another computer, not just storing data).

Quote:
Originally Posted by RobbH (Post 331374)
But, since you ask: I have a 16 GB card in my pocket computer, and a 32 GB flash drive in my pocket. Obviously, the flash drive can hold more than the pocket computer. Sometimes I want to access files on the flash drive. Do you seriously think I would choose to go to a desktop computer, transfer the files I need from the flash drive to the desktop, then from the desktop (DIRECTLY! -- as you put it) to the pocket computer?
You're changing the subject. Here you just want to store data. My question was just on the file transfers. I recall what you had said: "The way I expect my mobile computer to exchange files with my desktop and other computers is via flash drive.".


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