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bongo 2009-09-22 22:43

What do you think about dual sim devices??
 
It would be nice to have a phone/tablet with two sim cards. I could use my phone contract and my prepaid card for mobile internet with one device. Why are these devices so exotic?

zerojay 2009-09-22 22:48

Re: What do you think about dual sim devices??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bongo (Post 331815)
It would be nice to have a phone/tablet with two sim cards. I could use my phone contract and my prepaid card for mobile internet with one device. Why are these devices so exotic?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but most of the people I know of that use dual SIM cards use them because they're in many different areas with different providers in a short distance... so probably European mainly. But only people that are going to be doing that very often would really want to spring for that, I guess.

I worked in cell phone gaming for a few years and I know I never saw a single dual SIM slot phone in the over 500 phones we had in inventory. I think there's just not enough demand for it.

Laughing Man 2009-09-22 23:19

Re: What do you think about dual sim devices??
 
Demand and added cost. In the USA only two major networks offer SIMs (TMobile and AT&T). The other two including the giant Verizon, and Sprint don't offer SIMs. Thus phones designed for this market either have 1 SIM slot or none at all!

Then take into account European and Asian markets (and other countries like Africa) where they do have providers with SIM slots, most customers will not change SIMs often enough to warrant having two. Unless you were an employee whose company pays for work related calls and nothing else or they travel often enough where switching SIMs would be annoying (e.g. each day you travel say between Germany and Italy) or something.

GeraldKo 2009-09-23 00:22

Re: What do you think about dual sim devices??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bongo (Post 331815)
I could use my phone contract and my prepaid card for mobile internet with one device. Why are these devices so exotic?

Heck, bongo, stuck in the US telecom scene, I find even a prepaid card for mobile internet "exotic"!

ruskie 2009-09-23 08:51

Re: What do you think about dual sim devices??
 
I wouldn't mind it but as we use voip from a telco and they were kind enough to provide instructions on how to set it up on my N95 I have no need for dual sim anymore :)

Would be nice to get a decent international flatrate SIM as well.

TA-t3 2009-09-23 09:28

Re: What do you think about dual sim devices??
 
Where I work, around 95% of us are running around with two phones at all times,
the work phone and the private phone (we don't have landlines at the office
anymore). Only some of the marketing folks have a single, work-paid combo
(not an option for the rest of us due to current taxation regulations).

A lot of our bunch really wish for a dual-SIM phone. It would have to be in
the reasonably priced category (no smartphone) that the company currently
provides us with. I've looked at two Samsung phones, even though they're
not sold around here. Their dual-SIM feature looks good (get calls on any
of the two number, easy choice for which one to call out on). However, their
features are otherwise not up to the current choice of el-cheapo Sony-Ericsson
or Nokia phones.

Edit: Ah, and Bongo's thoughts about using a voice-plan + data-plan card at the same time.. that's interesting too. I've got one of those data plan cards too (which currently sits unused in my Huawei dongle)

vabgeo 2009-09-23 12:29

Re: What do you think about dual sim devices??
 
I used a Samsung D880, the only respectable dual sim phone I found, the rest where from unknown brands.
I found that I could not use packet data while making a voice call,also the carrier I used, had very high rates for gprs. The D880 is not a smartphone so I used it for tethering with my N810.
When I came to the US, I couldnt use the secondary phone of the D880 since it didnt support any of the US frequencies.
I found it very useful instead of carrying two phones around, it only cost me 200$ unlocked

mikec 2009-09-23 12:56

Re: What do you think about dual sim devices??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TA-t3 (Post 332029)
Where I work, around 95% of us are running around with two phones at all times,
the work phone and the private phone (we don't have landlines at the office
anymore). Only some of the marketing folks have a single, work-paid combo
(not an option for the rest of us due to current taxation regulations).

A lot of our bunch really wish for a dual-SIM phone. It would have to be in
the reasonably priced category (no smartphone) that the company currently
provides us with. I've looked at two Samsung phones, even though they're
not sold around here. Their dual-SIM feature looks good (get calls on any
of the two number, easy choice for which one to call out on). However, their
features are otherwise not up to the current choice of el-cheapo Sony-Ericsson
or Nokia phones.

Edit: Ah, and Bongo's thoughts about using a voice-plan + data-plan card at the same time.. that's interesting too. I've got one of those data plan cards too (which currently sits unused in my Huawei dongle)

Same in my company, 80,000 staff and they all have work and home phones.

McChicken 2009-09-23 13:18

Re: What do you think about dual sim devices??
 
As I mentioned here in Europe it is a ***** with different ( local) operators when traveling. so Dual SIM cards adapters is not that unusual. and one of the most respected companies is this http://www.simore.ch/en/index.php I have never used their products so I cannot say too much.

nowadays ( here in EU) it is not Phone Calls that is making a hassle, as call rates are acceptable even by using your local ( another country SIM) but instead it is Mobile Broadband that is difficult. ( as I use Skype, email , surf. GPS Maps)
and THAT be really expensive like € 15 / Mb, ( $20.-)
this have been my biggest issue when on travel

McChicken 2009-09-23 13:47

Re: What do you think about dual sim devices??
 
Have emailed the Dual SIM guys, encouraged them to make a Dual SIM adapte for Maemo 5, gave them links to our community, if I get a reply will post.
it is amazing how few people that actually know about Dual SIM adapters.
OK they are not 100% perfect but better than carry two phones.

TA-t3 2009-09-23 14:03

Re: What do you think about dual sim devices??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 331816)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but most of the people I know of that use dual SIM cards use them because they're in many different areas with different providers in a short distance... [...]

Apparently dual-SIM phones are very popular in Asia, but I would think that it's not the multi-providers in different areas which is the cause (because everywhere I've been in Europe and parts of Asia there may be different providers but they're always country-wide).

The dual business phone/private phone issue is probably the main driver. And, for some, routine travel to some other country.

vabgeo 2009-09-23 19:33

Re: What do you think about dual sim devices??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by McChicken (Post 332133)
Have emailed the Dual SIM guys, encouraged them to make a Dual SIM adapte for Maemo 5, gave them links to our community, if I get a reply will post.
it is amazing how few people that actually know about Dual SIM adapters.
OK they are not 100% perfect but better than carry two phones.

The Dual SIM adapters, allow only to have one running at any time and able to switch between them easily, right?

allnameswereout 2009-09-23 19:40

Re: What do you think about dual sim devices??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by McChicken (Post 332110)
As I mentioned here in Europe it is a ***** with different ( local) operators when traveling. so Dual SIM cards adapters is not that unusual. and one of the most respected companies is this http://www.simore.ch/en/index.php I have never used their products so I cannot say too much.

nowadays ( here in EU) it is not Phone Calls that is making a hassle, as call rates are acceptable even by using your local ( another country SIM) but instead it is Mobile Broadband that is difficult. ( as I use Skype, email , surf. GPS Maps)
and THAT be really expensive like € 15 / Mb, ( $20.-)
this have been my biggest issue when on travel

When you enter a country in EU you get a SMS with costs of voice and SMS costs (but not (yet) data costs). Not knowing the costs sucks. Just curious, where did you have to pay 15 EUR/MB?

McChicken 2009-09-23 20:10

Re: What do you think about dual sim devices??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 332379)
When you enter a country in EU you get a SMS with costs of voice and SMS costs (but not (yet) data costs). Not knowing the costs sucks. Just curious, where did you have to pay 15 EUR/MB?

I do not remember if it was France or Germany, but if you are not with one of the biggest Pan European operators you do not get great rates in some countries, I have Huhinson Three (3) and they are great in some countries ( where they operate) and totally suck in other ( not in operation).
I do get the data rate info when crossing a boarder, and I DO NEED getting on-line so even though I know it is going to be expensive i need to use it.

allnameswereout 2009-09-23 20:15

Re: What do you think about dual sim devices??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by McChicken (Post 332406)
I do not remember if it was France or Germany, but if you are not with one of the biggest Pan European operators you do not get great rates in some countries, I have Huhinson Three (3) and they are great in some countries ( where they operate) and totally suck in other ( not in operation).
I do get the data rate info when crossing a boarder, and I DO NEED getting on-line so even though I know it is going to be expensive i need to use it.

Hmm, I get quite good rates everywhere in EU but EU != Europe. For me, Serbia was 400-480 EUR for 30 MB or something. Still figuring it out with my telco, they will give me some kind of deal. You might find those interesting. Ie. Vodafone NL provides option of 75 EUR for 250 MB international.

TA-t3 2009-09-28 16:04

Re: What do you think about dual sim devices??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vabgeo (Post 332369)
The Dual SIM adapters, allow only to have one running at any time and able to switch between them easily, right?

I _think_ so, yes. For proper dual SIM operations you need a dual SIM phone, not one of those adapters.


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