Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 

No! Don't put the commentary to bed, I just made popcorn!

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 

It's not about a single statement, but about problems that can arise due to mis-communications and mis-understanding. My badly constructed phrases and limited vocabulary are a good example of that - often a native English speaker expresses and understands thoughts in a different way than non-native speakers, where their way of expression often varies according to their mother language (words used, phrase construction).
In other words: statements from non-native speakers should be taken with a grain of salt :-)

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 

@eldar

i have secret contacts. i am way better than you in numerous ways i wont tell you just because.

dodging questions about the origin of your n900, firmware,.. that really is so obivous that it would have been the smartest thing to come clean about it allready.

if you don't say directly that you have 100% legal device, and you are holding it with nokias approval, what are the options and what should we think about that? you must very well know the speculation about your n900 if you registered here......

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 

Hey eldar (and twaelti) no real offense meant-- I was teasing about the assumptions over people here, not language barriers.

It's funny as heck IMO for someone, ANYone, to pop in and assume they know the backgrounds of every participant. Pure hubris.

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 

How many grains of salt to be taken when reading a translated review with access to unofficial hardware and unknown firmware?

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 

Because his firmware contains proprietary Google applications. Distributing such without Google's permission is not allowed.

If Mer would distribute Nokia binaries without Nokia's consent the same would happen to Mer. Thats hypothetic example btw.

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 

I remember the good old days before the release of the n800!

Texrat brings back any memories? :D

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 

That you obtained this device via illegal ways (the 'cool' word is 'connections' I suppose) is one thing. That you write about it before product release is an entirely different issue. The combination two together is what disgusts me. Jealous? You think people are jealous? You think I'd be jealous because of paparazzi? The only situations I have respect for what people like you do is when there are ethics involved. The kind of documents we read on Wikileaks. Stuff like Deep Throat.

A review is impossible because the product is not final! You mean preview.

Rest assured several non-Nokians on this forum have a prototype unit but are under NDA and therefore cannot write a preview. This is precisely because the product is not ready yet. Instead, if they experience bugs, they will most likely provide feedback about them to Nokia. Several Nokia Shop have a prototype unit as well, and various users on this forum have tried the device.

The haven't anything was a referral to Nokia N920.

You are running beta snapshots which did not pass QA. They are not meant for end users or preview. You do not have the final hardware; you have a prototype. God knows which prototype, you're certainly not open about it. 0% of customers will care about bugs which you experienced in [this] beta software or hardware; they only care about the final product.

Instead of being egocentric and getting a lot of ad revenue you should have contacted Nokia prior to getting the funny idea to write a preview. Also, bold conclusions are not recommended in previews because they are previews.

PS: how can you run 34-14 in June? Was that firmware from 2008 or something.

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 

Yeah, which is why I led off with "Here we go again". I saw Milhouse's "thanks" and actually laughed out loud. Ah, those were the days... :D

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 

There are plenty of non-native speakers who post just fine on here.

I don't agree with the quoted statement at all.

The problem is not about miscommunication, unless of course, he didn't mean to say that

a) he won't reveal the mysterious fw version number
b) he won't reveal how he got it.

If that's being miscommunicated, then you are correct. Otherwise, language isn't really an issue here.