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eldarmurtazin 2009-09-25 21:37

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 
Please stop flaming and that childish conversation. If you want to blame me in something - go on and do it. But do not w8 any answer from me. I dont have time to spent it on flame.

Laughing Man
I'm not a beta tester :( Through the year I'm testing around 250 devices. But I do it only for one reason, I need to understand realisation of every function, trend, quality etc. I need that things in my research projects.

No one is asking me to report about bugs, previously it was possible, now do not see any reason, too short time before launch. A lot of bugs described in documents (it will be funny to publish this docs and procedure to crash device - sure a lot of people will play in that sort of rubbish game)

I answer in previous post about Apple. Is not a player of whom Nokia have to care now. Next 2 years it will be a battle between Nokia and Samsung for global dominance. I'm not sure who will win this war. Too much unclearance. Now Samsung is really aggressive (Corby, Touch Phones, Connections with carriers - like Vodafone 360 etc).

qole 2009-09-25 21:39

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 
This is cool. Eldar is in the house! Welcome!

I sure wish I could read Russian.

eldarmurtazin 2009-09-25 21:39

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 
livefreeordie
check data how much desktops using for games

HDMI is just an output - you need space for movies etc handheld devices wont have enough space for that in next 10 years or 100 years. In comparisson with desktop solutions, the last one will have cheaper and better storages. Better video output. Better interfaces (WiMax etc). You are dreaming :)

allnameswereout 2009-09-25 21:41

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 
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About bug reports. All devices for test have crash logger. Astonished that you guys dont know so simple things. This logs are sending to Nokia site directly. And collect by team which devoted to software part
Ah, ****. That means the binaries have debugging symbols enabled. Which slows down the actual performance, and battery life.

Did you run PowerTOP?

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Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 333842)
I disagree (hence my earlier post about if any company really wanted to pursue a case for damages to namebrand).

It'd require some effort, and maybe Nokia is OK with the attention, or accepts the loss. There is a saying, I don't know it in English, from a naked chicken you can't pluck.

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Customers in general aren't informed and won't look more into depth into things like this.
First experience and first information is very important.

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You wouldn't review an alpha or beta version of Ubuntu or a beta version of Windows 7 as if it was a finalized build of it.
Yes, but you'd state the build version or complete version.

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 333863)
99% is pretty strong. I'd say the smaller screens knock out about 15% of typical business needs (spreadsheets, documents, etc). From experience I can say I was able to do about 80% of my typical work on an N800 and that was 2 years ago... but 99%? I don't think we'll ever see that day.

Rather, I'd put my bets on docking stations and monitors, and specialized devices. E-Book reader + 3G for reading. NAS + Sheevaplug for downloading. NAS + stereo for playing music. TV + NAS for recording video. Console for playing games. Camera + NAS for security system.

With Apple, such stuff only works the Apple way while other corporations put more effort supporting open standards and compatibility. While I think of it, I wonder why they even support TCP/IP. :eek::D

livefreeordie 2009-09-25 21:41

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 
Vodafone 360 sounds interesting, but I must say that I really hope it fails to compete with Ovi just because the last thing we need is a telco with even more power. Dark side of the force written all over it.

eldarmurtazin 2009-09-25 21:43

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 
allnameswereout
I dont said that i activate debug mode on my devices :) dont see any reason, I have to check how they work in normal modes

Did you run PowerTOP?
Think no, what's that?

livefreeordie 2009-09-25 21:46

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 
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Originally Posted by eldarmurtazin (Post 333870)
livefreeordie
check data how much desktops using for games

HDMI is just an output - you need space for movies etc handheld devices wont have enough space for that in next 10 years or 100 years. In comparisson with desktop solutions, the last one will have cheaper and better storages. Better video output. Better interfaces (WiMax etc). You are dreaming :)

I said business users and laptops. Hard core gaming irrelevant, and Bounce on s40 was good enough for casual use.

Not enough space? Right now you could theoretically have 32 GB internal + 32 GB SD card, and we're talking 5 years into the future! Look at how well netbooks are selling.

eldarmurtazin 2009-09-25 21:48

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 
livefreeordie
i wont say that but at this moment OVI is failed, not completely but Nokia have to think about re-launch it in future

Ngage is dead again (second time)
OVI Share wont be develop strongly
A lot of development come to integrate Facebook, Twitter and some others non Nokia services. It means that own services are failed (again, not completely)

Vodafone 360 isnt a new service - Vodafone Music on market for several years and have strong customer base (Nokia Music isnt so strong), Navigation for Vodafone isnt bad etc.

I think operators will be a major on this field and Nokia have to think about it. For instance in case of Vodafone Nokia from now have to remove own services (OVI contacts, OVI store etc) from operator handsets and embbeded Vodafone services. The same story later will be for Orange, T-Mobile, O2 and others. So customer base for OVI will be shrinking (i mean potential customer base)

Texrat 2009-09-25 21:48

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 
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Originally Posted by livefreeordie (Post 333866)
That's why I included HDMI out. Would you bring a laptop if you could connect your phone to any TV at 1920x1080 and use KOffice?

Yes, and I've touched on that in my own blogging and see it as viable in a few years. I think the N900 experience there will wind up more useful for providing feedback for further development than any current joy. ;)

eldarmurtazin 2009-09-25 21:51

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 
livefreeordie
looks like chat :)

netbooks are dying, they are moved to normal notebooks segment (at least in terms of price). It was a good move to market but now game are changing again. The same story was on handset market before.

So netbooks take some market share, but wont be dominante power on it.

Corporate market is so small. You are kidding me. Story behind Eseries (first 2 year) wasnt successfull, the same for BB devices (they have sales only for 1 year - in volumes). From the point when they make more mass market devices...


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