Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 

i cannot comment on how buggy "60%" of the S60-releases are... i only own one single device.

but "incomplete"... the N900 will be incomplete even compared to an average S40-phone, and of course it lacks a whole lot of features I use regularly with my S60 phone.

there's nothing wrong about telling people so. why shouldn't eldar make that clear in a review? it's better not to have people buy the N900 when they expect something "better than S60".

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 

If only 'just works' on windows wouldn't really mean 'sucks in expected ways'....

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 

windows xp is pretty open as you can run it on basically everything from 486 upwards. i'm running nlited xp on my desktop, my laptops, my download server, my carpc and my robot - it's pretty stable.

what usually makes it cough are 3rd party hardware drivers - a tribute to its openness.

it doesn't as much explain the success of windows as rather the success of apple. in many of their commercials, they make fun of instability of windows machines.

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 

However much you hate Microsoft and Windows, it's not realistic to portray them not 'working out ok out of the box'.

Whether they deteriorate much quicker than other OS, needs higher frequency of 'maintenances' or that they suck *** after a period of time does not detract from them 'working out ok out of the box'.

@quingu: excuse me, sir. but what is 'gack'? it sounds curiously alluring.

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 

Although, as a mobile Linux computer, the N900 can be as complete as I want it to be, as I can port or write whatever applications I desire to run on it.

I think some people need to break out of the phone paradigm and see this thing as being something else. Most of us here at tmo don't think of it as a phone, but as a smaller internet tablet with some phone stuff in it. At least I think we do, if not, I'm willing to be corrected.

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 

Your 100% right; but that's the problem in marketing this thing. We here come from the tablet-world and some of us are glad the tablet now has a built-in phone, too... so glad that they don't care much if it's a good phone. (And, frankly, if you're the target group, you probably won't even notice.)

But as it is, a device by Nokia that holds a SIM card and will ring when somebody dials your cell phone number will be just a phone for 98.17% of the consumers. This is the new Nokia phone! And as a phone, it can do less than previous models. It can't do MMS, it can't do video calls, it can't sync with a web service, you cannot use your bluetooth keyboard with it...

There's a chance that consumers will be disappointed by all this. All I'm saying is that it's good reviewers tell them in advance so that people have the correct expectations. And I don't see the point of bashing reviewers who do just that.

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 

Also more.

Nobody thinks in the line of "oh it cannot do that, I don't want it then" except if its a so-called dealbreaker.

For most features its a long sum of + and - after which the consumer makes a decision. Thinking along the lines of 'it doesn't do X, it sucks' is oversimplifying.

Jabber/XMMP supports that

Not sure what that means.

It has its own keyboard. And you can get Bluetooh HID working.

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 

Oh, please :eek:

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 

You're right, I'm biased by the fact that I used the thing since it was windows 386 (I'm not sure I also used windows 1.0 before, so that doesn't count).
It took them an awfully long time to have something somewhat working out of a carefully designed box.....and that stops working as soon as you turn it on :D

Re: well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900
 

/me is waiting for the review of the samsung 2011 device posted by eldar