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Yes, I get your point. It just looks too much like an iPhone. Maybe we need a 'N900 icon' for purposes like this? Would have been even nicer if Nokia provided these.

[EDIT]Case in point: Fennec start up screen. Nice, but does not show my device.

Also, you could tilt the device in landscape mode between 0 and 45 degrees instead of keeping it fully horizontal. My point was (and is) that I'd want the device more resemble a Nokia N900; not that the device has to be exactly shown as in landscape mode.
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I think the icon looks very much like an N900.

Fennec, not so much.

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@qole, I thought so too

@otherguyhatingonmyiconlol how can I make it more n900? any suggestions?

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*sidebar, anybody know why my profile pic isn't displaying :S?

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Not hating, first of all I'm just one person on this forum, second I very much appreciate your effort (and thanked you in your posts!), third some kind of 'standard N900 icon' is very useful IMO and lack of that is definately not your fault or anything.

I was thinking, how does the device look when it is before you:

http://www.n900.nl/wp-content/upload...kia-n900-5.jpgNow ask yourself the question: what is typical of this look?

1) The screen inside the device. That is well done, except the proportions are a bit off.
2) The NOKIA logo (which you cannot use but continue reading) and the lighter grey shade
3) As well as the camera/proximity_sensor/and other stuff on the left side
4) Also, if you look carefully, the left and right side are not straight, they are slightly round/curved.

Side note: since your icon is small the above is not easy to implement. In small icons, details might be less important relevant (and even omitted) than in big icons.

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The icon looks pretty much like a N900 to me. If there's enough pixels, maybe you just need a little indication of little cut out bit where it says 'Nokia'.

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It shows here http://talk.maemo.org/member.php?u=23879

Maybe you have displaying avatars off in your settings. Then you won't see them, even not your own. (I know cause I have it off myself yet like I said see your avatar on your member page.)

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I definitly see what you are saying, the name thing was just a joke dude, thanks for the input, I'm going to mess around with the rounded edges and logo "spot" and see what comes out.

Good call.

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Don't mess around too much. If you were to change one thing, make the screen a bit less wide.

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Thanks. Your current proportions of size of screen & device rather resemble N8x0.

OTOH regarding my other points the icon we discuss is a small icon, so you could say the details do not matter. I'd really love to see you giving a good shot on it though! Now, even taking the rounding out of account, the shade of grey on outside (diff that on inside and screen) would be barely noticable which is unfortunate because the place where the Nokia logo is at, is very distinctive of this particular device.

Do you know about any SVG art of Nokia N900?

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@allnameswereout:

The device is not grey at all. It is completely black.

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I don't know if this is better or worse or any different, I used the image you posted as a template and copied the size and shape including the rounded sides, at the small size its not really noticeable.

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maybe i should copy some details from the os, like the app button on the top left...

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The screen is still too long / wide. But like I said before, it doesn't matter.

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I'll mess around some more later I can't believe how much time i've "put in" to this today. lol

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I see your profile pic in your profile. If you mean the picture beside your name in every post, you want to add an avatar.

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Thank you sir.

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Yes, thank you, maybe postpone it. I imagine its much easier to make this if you have the device in your hands. And, I imagine the artwork could be reused. Do you use vector graphics application for drawing?

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Okay, a last update before bed. Version 0.3-1 is going through the autobuilder. It has the features discussed earlier in the thread.

- Updated icon (thanks joshua.maverick!)
- Updated layout
- Added settings for refresh interval, unit display (binary or SI), and displaying last reset date

The screenshot below is in scratchbox (not on a device) so there is some graphical corruption that will not be present on the N900.

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v0.3-1 is now available in extras-devel and is working properly. I'm quite happy with it right now and I'm still amazed that it's already come this far in less than a week.

I will be attempting to start up some more of these small widget projects... let's see what else we can make happen, hmm? :)

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IP address plz

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@allnames, I drew the n900 with a path, so it can be reused/scaled etc.
@fifferboy, looking great dude, can't wait to see it on my own n900 *sigh
@zerojay, if you need ui/design help, I'm always down in the name of the n900 lol

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@fiferboy, can we right align the title with the other right aligned text, i think it looks more balanced like that. What about the white separator between the "rows"?

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Shall I open up a new Brainstorm? ;)

Fifer.. pretty sure you could reuse your source to do this IP address widget in no time flat. Joshua, come up with an icon... let's try to keep the design of these widgets consistent and similar all the way through.

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Why not simply rotate it 90° counterclockwise? This would also make the arrows actually go 'up' and 'down'...

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http://i35.tinypic.com/ajo3de.png

Used on Forum Nokia. Seems a slightly edited resized photograph, but it does point out:

1) Gradient in middle (top lighter than bottom).
2) Screen dark.
3) Edges have shadows.
4) Nokia logo is rather light grey.
5) Roundness.
6) Keyboard is shown, might not be preferred, although might differentiate device.
7) Slightly tilted, 15 degrees?

These are just my observations...

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Version 0.3-2 will now actually use the refresh interval the user selects, rather than callously ignoring it like the previous version does.

0.3-2 is currently in extras-devel on it's way to extras-testing. Once it is in -testing, please rate it!

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What are you reffering to here?

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Some feedback for you (using the latest version from Extras-Devel):

The "Last Reset" field should probably display "never" instead of "Thu, 01 Jan 1970" when there has not ever been a reset for the data counter.

The "Update every" picker button is kind of weird: It says "seconds(s)" when you really mean "second(s)", and ideally you determine if you want to write "second" or "seconds" in the code and display it correctly in the list) Also, selecting any value from 0 to 60 seconds seems useless to me (and involves a lot of scrolling).

How about "Manually on click", "When switching the desktop", "5 seconds", "30 seconds", "1 minute", "5 minutes" and "10 minutes"? The "Only manually" option would update the widget when it is touched/clicked, and you can get rid of the label that says that '0' will refresh only when switching to the desktop.

The widget name when adding the widget is still "Personal GPRS Monitor" in the list of available widgets - you probably want to change that "GPRS" to "Dataplan" in the next release.

Apart from that, it looks really good already! :)

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thp: Thanks for the feedback. "Never" is probably more descriptive than some date forty years before the tablet was made :)

I like your selector idea for refresh interval. I will implement that in the next version. Much less scrolling and more descriptive.

I think that it is already "Personal Dataplan Monitor" in the widget selection screen, it just doesn't take effect until hildondesktop is reset. I could be wrong, but a reboot should solve that.

Thanks again for the input.

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Using "Never" would match the phone's internal data counters as well, so I suggest it.

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The new version (in Extras-Devel) works perfect, and has all the cosmetic bugs from the previous post fixed - thanks :)

One very, very small nitpick: It would be nice if you could provide some visual feedback (lighting up with a blue background just like the contacts and web bookmarks?) so that the user knows when his/her touch has been registered.

Alternatively (or additionally?) hide the values for a very short amount of time after the touch and then re-show them. This way, the user will know that the widget has received the click and updated the values even if the values themselves don't change. Edit: Oh, and hiding the values and re-showing them will make it obvious to the user that the widget refreshes on touch, which should make it possible to remove the "The widget will always refresh when you press it" label in the settings dialog.

Right now, users can't really be sure if the applet has been updated on a touch or if it has frozen/crashed, as there is no visual feedback of the touch.

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Good ideas. It's little things like this that separate great apps/widgets from the merely good.

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Thomas - I will try adding some sort of feedback that a press has been registered. I was playing around with doing it on button-press-event and having it revert to normal on button-release-event, but this doesn't work out as there are instances where the release event would not occur (if the user dragged his/her finger off the applet during the event).

I think I will have the effect show on button-press-event and timeout after a short time.

Thanks

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Oops, I'm terribly sorry, the picture was in my browser cache, Forum Nokia doesn't allow the picture to be linked to. I've uploaded it on a free picture hosting and edited the post to show the picture.

(This is it btw: http://i35.tinypic.com/ajo3de.png)

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Okay, 0.4-2 is in the autobuilder queue (for whenever the builder comes back up). This version just adds a visual feedback when pressing the applet. It will change the background to the "Selected" color when pressing, switching back to default when released.

I think it works well, and it should follow the theme selected. We will see when it hits extras-devel.

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http://i007.radikal.ru/0910/4c/8cb8b4e7232d.png

My shot.
- Widget should use as much place as it is supposed to use.
- Widget should contain as little disturbing elements as possible

So, since this widget does one small (but really handy) peice of functionality - remove the title and icon, they are senseless in this case. They will just add more graphical noise to the desktop. Replace "download" and "upload" with simple small icons - it will make your widget international and save the space without sacrificing functionality.
That's all :)

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Quick update:
Since we still have to follow Widget Gudelines - both monitor and IP have to have same width as other widgets. So:
http://s47.radikal.ru/i118/0910/7d/c3f33a1d72bc.png

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The icon looked better without speedometer in my opinion.
I also like wazd's idea.

Good job everyone!

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I've just looked at http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/..._UI_Guidelines and I don't see anything about them having to be the same width...?