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gerbick 2009-10-05 05:44

Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
But no iPhone and no mention of Maemo either despite Nokia being a member of the Open Screen Project [ scroll down ]

Sorta strange that the N900 is now "official" but no mention. Not too surprised about Apple, in fact there's been a comment from Adobe that I found "delightful" - "Still a closed device and not much progress there"

[ CNET ] [ Gizmodo ]

HD video accelerated via GPU, among other things. I can't wait.

Thesandlord 2009-10-05 06:06

Re: Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
Hopefully Maemo will get it. HULU would be so cool!

bandora 2009-10-05 06:07

Re: Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 339605)
But no iPhone and no mention of Maemo either despite Nokia being a member of the Open Screen Project [ scroll down ]

Sorta strange that the N900 is now "official" but no mention. Not too surprised about Apple, in fact there's been a comment from Adobe that I found "delightful" - "Still a closed device and not much progress there"

[ CNET ] [ Gizmodo ]

HD video accelerated via GPU, among other things. I can't wait.

Oh man you beat me to the news... Lol... I was wondering the same... But when they said that it will support linux do they mean maemo also? And i am 100% that the N900 will have the Flash 10.1 which will be sweet!

Oh man this makes me want the N900 even more!

mobiledivide 2009-10-05 06:59

Re: Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
Here is a press release from ARM saying there is full support for ARM devices on release Flash 10.1. Hopefully this means N900 support soon.

LINKY

jperez2009 2009-10-05 10:00

Re: Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
From what I saw in that article, Nokia and Adobe are collaborating to bring Flash to Nokia phones...which is a broader scope. Since the N900 is in fact a phone, I think we can safely say it could have the possibility of having native Flash Support. Personally, I'm ready for them to bring MUCH better compatibility for Linux so it won't be sluggish on my Ubuntu laptop. :p

Also, should the deal not include the N900, it might include the N<insert Harmattan device number here> instead. I know that's not what you'd want, but some things come at a price, unfortunately. Still, have faith that Nokia will find a way for the new optimized Flash to be later integrated into the N900 easily.

Here's to Adobe finally going open on SOMETHING! *raises glass of Brandy*

Jesse~

Milhouse 2009-10-05 10:01

Re: Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
And an OMAP3 optimised version of Flash Player 10 is due H1 2010.

eiffel 2009-10-05 10:13

Re: Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
I was a little disappointed to see that the Nokia/Adobe press release doesn't even mention Maemo, whereas the Qualcomm/Adobe press release proudly claims that "The first consumer devices ready to support Flash Player 10.1 will be ... based on Qualcomm’s Snapdragon chipset".

Regards,
Roger

gerbick 2009-10-05 10:26

Re: Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eiffel (Post 339677)
I was a little disappointed to see that the Nokia/Adobe press release doesn't even mention Maemo, whereas the Qualcomm/Adobe press release proudly claims that "The first consumer devices ready to support Flash Player 10.1 will be ... based on Qualcomm’s Snapdragon chipset".

Regards,
Roger

Bingo. I "know" it's coming, but for it to not be explicitly named, bothers me.

Heck, even the demos of Flash 10.1 on the Palm WebOS have surfaced by now. Why wouldn't Nokia sorta ride this into the upcoming consumer release of the N900? If I were at Nokia, I would have insisted in having my upcoming product named at least once - they're part of the Open Screen Project.

I guess it's... odd from my perspective. I see an opportunity to get more hype out there about the N900.

Milhouse 2009-10-05 11:22

Re: Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
Maybe Quim or Peter@Marketing could comment? :)

jperez2009 2009-10-05 11:37

Re: Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
gerbick, if too much hype is created and the device ultimately doesn't live up to the hype that was created then sales will suffer and the product will basically be a bust. Some of the best things are usually not hyped so much and just kinda creep in. The N900 already has some hype due to the YouTube advertisement seen, but it's not over-blowing it's existence like Apple does with their products...and if you've seen most of the comments on that video, you'd know that not even the best hype can save customers all the time.

The video isn't even showing off everything the N900 can do and yet people are already wanting to get rid of their iPhones and take the N900. I'd say that's pretty good in my opinion.

Anyway, to each is own and this is just my perspective on it. ;)

Jesse~

Laughing Man 2009-10-05 12:46

Re: Full Flash 10.1 where is the N900?
 
Please see this thread http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...701#post339701

It's speculated that n900 falls under the Linux + Arm support.

andybehr 2009-10-05 12:47

Re: Full Flash 10.1 where is the N900?
 
I am fairly sure Flash 10 will be available for Maemo. But I think it will not happen for at least 10 months.
The beta for ARM is coming Q1 2010, so be patient. ;)

ogahyellow 2009-10-05 13:03

Re: Full Flash 10.1 where is the N900?
 
I cannot say how much I detest the general usage of flash. There are some places where it is useful, but the vast majority of flash "applications" are terribly-performing bandwidth hogs. They run like a dog on anything other than Windows.

Second (and I know I didn't give a first), this gives developers more reasons to use flash. UI's will be designed for mouse clicks, not for small screens. You may ask why the iPhone is conspicuously absent from that list--I contend it's because flash sucks.

edit: didn't realize I was on page 2 of the thread and included redundant info.

gerbick 2009-10-05 14:03

Re: Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jperez2009 (Post 339701)
gerbick, if too much hype is created and the device ultimately doesn't live up to the hype that was created then sales will suffer and the product will basically be a bust. Some of the best things are usually not hyped so much and just kinda creep in. The N900 already has some hype due to the YouTube advertisement seen, but it's not over-blowing it's existence like Apple does with their products...and if you've seen most of the comments on that video, you'd know that not even the best hype can save customers all the time.

But no hype bothers me even more. I can usually cut through the marketing hype based on how it will suit my needs best; however to not talk about it in the US markets, Nokia isn't exactly helping themselves.

I think that a YouTube video by Nokia about the Maemo/N900 device that's been seen only 130k times, whereas Apple's videos have been seen 1mil+ times for some of their videos, it shows a radical difference in hype to me.

Quote:

The video isn't even showing off everything the N900 can do and yet people are already wanting to get rid of their iPhones and take the N900. I'd say that's pretty good in my opinion.
But knowing that an update is coming in an area that's never been updated in such a large version before on the N800/N810 (going from 9.4 to 10.1 would be greater than the minor dot revision going from Chinook to Diablo)... that needs to be said at least once.

Quote:

Anyway, to each is own and this is just my perspective on it.
And I appreciate it.

Rushmore 2009-10-05 16:43

Re: Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
Well, looks like the roll out is not expected to be complete until June.

"Adobe told us as they gleefully detailed that Flash was invading basically every other smartphone (except Apple devices). Also, we gotta wait until mid-2010 for the full rollout."

Nokia is a key partner with Adobe. We will get 10.1- one way or another.

gerbick 2009-10-05 17:24

Re: Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
Just saw the N900 being demonstrated with the 10.1 during the Adobe MAX - in fact, it was the first smartphone out of many - actually Kevin Lynch called it a "mobile computer" platform correctly, and showed TBS website.

Flawlessly. Said that Nokia has been involved quite deeply and they've been great.

Now... I can't friggin' wait.

overfloat 2009-10-05 17:58

Re: Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jperez2009 (Post 339671)
Personally, I'm ready for them to bring MUCH better compatibility for Linux so it won't be sluggish on my Ubuntu laptop. :p

I gave up trying to fix the slow fullscreen video - now i just use compiz with windows key+scroll wheel to zoom in.

mobiledivide 2009-10-05 18:17

Re: Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 339904)
Just saw the N900 being demonstrated with the 10.1 during the Adobe MAX - in fact, it was the first smartphone out of many - actually Kevin Lynch called it a "mobile computer" platform correctly, and showed TBS website.

Flawlessly. Said that Nokia has been involved quite deeply and they've been great.

Now... I can't friggin' wait.

That's what I wanted to hear, this is great news. Wish there was a thanks button in off-topic (this is actually an on-topic discussion move to applications or general?)

kryptoniankid17 2009-10-05 18:23

Re: Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 339904)
Just saw the N900 being demonstrated with the 10.1 during the Adobe MAX - in fact, it was the first smartphone out of many - actually Kevin Lynch called it a "mobile computer" platform correctly, and showed TBS website.

Flawlessly. Said that Nokia has been involved quite deeply and they've been great.

Now... I can't friggin' wait.

do you have a link?

sjgadsby 2009-10-05 19:02

Re: Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mobiledivide (Post 339926)
(this is actually an on-topic discussion move to applications or general?)

I've moved the thread to Applications. Please feel free to go back and physically reinforce the mental thanks you gave earlier in the thread.

claesbas 2009-10-05 19:07

Re: Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
might be related to this thread:
Use Flash to build native iPhone apps:
http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2009/10...hone_apps.html

gerbick 2009-10-05 22:02

Re: Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kryptoniankid17 (Post 339930)
do you have a link?

http://max.adobe.com/online/keynotes/

I watched it live... and what's odd? Out of the phones, only the N900 and Palm Pre really worked like they should. As Kevin Lynch stated, they were running pre-release software - OS & Flash Player.

And oddly enough, I hit the same site(s) they showed during the Adobe MAX presentation and I can tell you that the performance was as good as my desktop.

Yeah. I'm a Flash dev, and I'm fully impressed.

I tend to start Flash stuff in Off-Topic because I'm actually afraid of placing it anywhere else.

Withnail 2009-10-06 12:48

Re: Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 340061)
http://max.adobe.com/online/keynotes/

I watched it live... and what's odd? Out of the phones, only the N900 and Palm Pre really worked like they should. As Kevin Lynch stated, they were running pre-release software - OS & Flash Player.

And oddly enough, I hit the same site(s) they showed during the Adobe MAX presentation and I can tell you that the performance was as good as my desktop.

Yeah. I'm a Flash dev, and I'm fully impressed.

I tend to start Flash stuff in Off-Topic because I'm actually afraid of placing it anywhere else.

Damn, I missed it.. I can't find any offline video of the presentation either..
seems nobody grabbed the stream :(

I guess it jolly well should run as good as the Pre as they're both using the OMAP3430 chipset.
If it can offload tasks to the SGX530, the N900 should blow the Pre out of the water! :D

YoDude 2009-10-06 12:58

Re: Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Withnail (Post 340321)
Damn, I missed it.. I can't find any offline video of the presentation either..
seems nobody grabbed the stream :(

I guess it jolly well should run as good as the Pre as they're both using the OMAP3430 chipset.
If it can offload tasks to the SGX530, the N900 should blow the Pre out of the water! :D


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Quote:

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http://max.adobe.com/online/keynote_monday/

EDIT: Thanks again gerbick

Adobe Flash v10.1 pre-beta can be seen running on the N900 at about 51:30 in the above linked video.

Withnail 2009-10-06 14:24

Re: Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
Thanks for the heads-up YoDude & Gerbick

For those who want to skip the Adobe registration, the Monday keynote 'highlights' are now up on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pee3n...layer_embedded

janih_fi 2010-06-22 16:19

Re: Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
Thanks for the link.. good to see N900 first in the keynot :)

legoman666 2010-06-22 16:44

Re: Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
8 month old thread

slipkornsaad 2010-06-22 19:12

Re: Flash 10.1 Player for Android, WinMo, WebOS, Symbian...
 
Quote:

Flash Player 10.1 was also released to our mobile platform partners to be supported on devices based on Android, BlackBerry, webOS, future versions of Windows® Phone, LiMo, MeeGo and Symbian OS. We expect FP 10.1 will be an over-the-air download and even pre-installed on some smartphones, tablets and other devices in the coming months. Stay tuned to news from your device manufacturer.
http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplatform...mobile_av.html

:rolleyes::mad:


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