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Laughing Man 2009-10-12 01:23

Re: Big announcement coming soon from T-Mobile ; Project Black to shake things up?
 
Yup, and depending on the amount TMobile is making off of the plan currently if $50 doesn't break their bank then it would be a great way to undercut the competitors (or at least force them to lower their pricing).

I really don't think a merger would help them that much. Especially considering Sprint and TMobile have incompatible networks. Sure they'll be in 3rd place, but then instead of two "slowly dying" companies you just have one big "slowly dying" company that now has to somehow combine the two networks.

MountainX 2009-10-12 02:03

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Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 344079)
50 bucks flat rate for everything is going to change the hell out of the US market if its actually the case. It undercuts the bejebus out of pretty much every other company

Agreed. That would be a huge game changer from my perspective as a customer.

spinnukur 2009-10-12 02:09

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Originally Posted by MountainX (Post 344092)
Agreed. That would be a huge game changer from my perspective as a customer.

According to a link in another thread on the Telegraph UK, it sounds like a merger is possibly in the process between T-Mobile and Sprint. If this is true I think we can see what 'Project Black' truly is.

Laughing Man 2009-10-12 02:24

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I wonder when we'll get some more finalized information rather then rumor/speculation based on possible leaks though. Would be nice to know so I can determine when to buy the plan and whether to buy the device from TMobile vs. another store.

MountainX 2009-10-12 02:28

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Originally Posted by spinnukur (Post 344098)
According to a link in another thread on the Telegraph UK, it sounds like a merger is possibly in the process between T-Mobile and Sprint. If this is true I think we can see what 'Project Black' truly is.

From some analysts's and investors's perspective, I guess an acquisition would be the bigger game changer.

But from my perspective as a customer, an acquisition would be a major disappointment.

It is interesting that some analysts and investors also say a T-Mobile acquistion of Sprint would be disappointing -- even highly risky.

As a customer, I want better smartphones and better pricing plans for 3g and 4g data. T-Mobile's coverage is already improving nicely and for me it is better than AT&T's.

With the acquisition, TMO will be buying Sprint's customers (probably at a hefty price per customer). This move does not offer anything "game changing" to the customers, IMO.

Keep in mind that TMO has invested US$6.2 billion in its network in the US in the last 18 months! That's why everyone on TMO is seeing better coverage, more 3g, etc.

If Project Dark is a $50 all you can consume pricing plan coupled with some killer smart phones and a few other goodies, on top of these $6.2 billion of improvements, TMO will be acquiring customers the right way -- by offering something better.

Verythrax 2009-10-12 04:25

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4G doesn't mean the need of new hardware (ie phones) that support that? Official 4G release + cool phones supporting that (N900 sucessor for 2010) would be really a game-changer.

Just asking, I really don't know if actual 3G-capable phones can handle TMO's 4G.

spinnukur 2009-10-12 04:29

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Originally Posted by MountainX (Post 344103)
From some analysts's and investors's perspective, I guess an acquisition would be the bigger game changer.

But from my perspective as a customer, an acquisition would be a major disappointment.

It is interesting that some analysts and investors also say a T-Mobile acquistion of Sprint would be disappointing -- even highly risky.

As a customer, I want better smartphones and better pricing plans for 3g and 4g data. T-Mobile's coverage is already improving nicely and for me it is better than AT&T's.

With the acquisition, TMO will be buying Sprint's customers (probably at a hefty price per customer). This move does not offer anything "game changing" to the customers, IMO.

Keep in mind that TMO has invested US$6.2 billion in its network in the US in the last 18 months! That's why everyone on TMO is seeing better coverage, more 3g, etc.

If Project Dark is a $50 all you can consume pricing plan coupled with some killer smart phones and a few other goodies, on top of these $6.2 billion of improvements, TMO will be acquiring customers the right way -- by offering something better.

Not immediately, it would be gradual overtime which I'm sure T-Mobile does not want, considering their two biggest market losses were the US and UK. According to that link, if T-Mobile & Sprint were to merge, it would give them close to 79mill customers threatening AT&T's position. I totally agree with you it would be bad but eventually ( not right away considering Sprint is CDMA and T-mobile GSM ) once T-Mobile finds a way to merge the networks maybe once they have their 4G network's up and running ( quoting the article )

spinnukur 2009-10-12 07:49

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I think we now know what Project Dark ( Black ) is....


http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/a...n-t/#continued

ysss 2009-10-12 08:02

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Originally Posted by spinnukur (Post 344223)
I think we now know what Project Dark ( Black ) is....


http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/a...n-t/#continued

It's yet another rumor writeup, exactly the same as what Boy Genius wrote... albeit this is a longer piece..

spinnukur 2009-10-12 08:04

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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 344227)
It's yet another rumor writeup, exactly the same as what Boy Genius wrote... albeit this is a longer piece..

Engadget is at least more credible than Boy Genius and sarcasm their on the end with the '...' ;)


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