N00bi Wiki
 

ossipena started a Wiki page for newcomers to Maemo at:

http://wiki.maemo.org/New_users

I'm starting this thread to ask for suggestions as to what could/should be added to the Wiki (if anything).

Currently the topics are:

* 1 What is maemo?
* 2 Where can I find maemo?
* 3 What can I do with maemo?
* 4 What next?

The last directs people to other areas of the general Wiki like FAQs. Do any of you fellow n00bs see a topic (or subtopics) that should be added?

Also, if anyone, n00 or 0ld, can help flesh it out, have at it.

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I have capitalized all your Maemo references in the wiki. Maemo is a name, and as such spelled with a capital M. Only when you're referring to the site (maemo.org, talk.maemo.org etc.) it is written with m.

thanks for putting together this page!

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Topics missing:

What's the difference between the different versions? Which version will I get if I buy [insert hardware here]?

What applications run on which version of Maemo?

What should I do if I want to suggest an application?

Why would someone choose Maemo? (What are the benefits of Open Source?)

So this is nokia's iPhone, right? (Sorry ! I couldn't resist!)

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ossipena is the one that deserves the thanks for getting this thing going.

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I think most new users will visit it to learn about her new device. So I think the content should be laid out to follow their (general) discovery process.. I think it may be something like so:

1. What is maemo (very brief)
2. Getting started with Maemo
.a) Basic overview
.b) Getting more apps
.c) Getting help
3. Maemo tips and tricks
4. Introducing maemo community

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Going to disagree: I think most new users will visit to decide whether to buy... they saw someone with a device, heard about it, saw an advert. They want to know more, just in case, before they buy whatever the guy in carphone warehouse suggested,

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i think we should take in count both possibilities: a) noob who just bought internet tablet and b) somebody who just is interested about maemo (os/devices)

e: sorry i'm very bad at capital letters @ english

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Hmm, in that case, maybe the title should be changed.

"New Users" imply that they're already in possession of a Maemo based device. Pre-sales information are usually conveyed in marketing materials..

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you're right. i came up the title first, and after that idea formed further.

it is nice to see that my idea was noticed. RevdKathy made so many good points that I saw a urge for something like this that has all info needed in one page and written in language that Joe Average understands fully.

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I don't think we should get to much into the pre-purchase decision. Remember, the consumer isn't buying Maemo, they're buying the N900 and they will research at a site like:

http://www.nokia.co.uk/find-products...nes/nokia-n900

If the want to explore Maemo, they will probably click on the link on that page which gets them to:

http://maemo.nokia.com/

I would see maemo.org primarily as a destination for those who already purchased an N900 (or N8x0). I would see the new user Wiki page as more of a "what can I do at maemo.org?" Marketing, if any, should be focused on answering the question "why would I ever come back?"

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I suspect you're far better in English than most of us English speakers are in Finnish.

(and better than most of us Americans are in any other language).

(or, for that matter, than we are in English).

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Uh, well i guess my spin on the page was a bit different from where some people envisioned it would go. Feel free to sign up and add content, but i think the stuff i worked in is pretty polished so please don't nuke it wholesale...

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I was going to suggest "Introduction to Maemo", but we already have a page (the landing page for Maemo.org) called that. The landing page is actually a bit less newbie-friendly than the wiki entry is at this point. I think we need a link at the very top of the intro (landing) page that says "Introduction to Maemo" or "Beginners guide to Maemo" and that goes to this wiki page, while renaming the landing page (tab) to "Welcome".

Then, we can make the wiki page cover a bit more about why, in layman's terms, a person would want a Maemo device and to join the Maemo community.

I don't have the rights to do that; who does? What do you think?

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I wouldn't offer it as an official variant but I just though n00bi went with wiki.

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I went ahead and moved the page to http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Basics. If someone with mod access to the other wiki (wth do we have two wikis on maemo.org?) could rejigger the landing page as i described above, it would be great.

To review:
* Rename "Intro" tabbed landing page to "Welcome"
* Link to the http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Basics somewhere on it, possibly indicating that it's intended for people new to the whole idea.
* We'll add more info on the Maemo Basics wiki page along the lines of "What can I do with Maemo".

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Ossipena updated the page with a "What can i do with Maemo" and i added to it. Still need someone to make this accessible from landing page.

Incidentally, the landing page is pretty ugly right now.

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I'm trying to expand on the Maemo explanation for the new user page and I don't want to say the wrong thing.

Can someone more knowledgeable put together a short paragraph (for a new user who doesn't know Linux's sudo from Phil's Sussudio) on how you would update:

1) an N810 with the original OS2008 to OS2008 Diablo.

and, if it is theoretically different:

2) an N800 with OS2007 to OS2008 Diablo.

and, if it is possible:

3) an N770 with OS2005/6 to OS2008 Diablo.

I'm assuming that the explanation would then link to:

http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware

Any help would be appreciated.

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The direction that the Maemo Basics wiki page evolved isn't really in keeping with that. How about a new page linked at the bottom of the basics page called "Getting Started with Maemo" that covers actual how-tos? Does anything like this exist somewhere already?

There's a lot of out-of-date material on the wiki, so a concise and focused basic info and then getting started page would be helpful, as those are things that are both easy to update and the most relevant.

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No, I'm not looking for a real "how to", I'm looking for a paragraph of general explanation.

If I were writing it, it would read:

"Maemo 5 and Maemo 4 Diablo handle upgrading automatically. Upgrading an older version of Maemo requires that you "flash" your tablet. Essentially you load the software onto your desktop computer and connect your Internet Tablet so the upgrade can be transferred to it. Full instructions are at:http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware "

Is that statement correct?