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RobMtl007 2009-10-10 16:48

Can't download Apps in Application Manager
 
Greetings:

I have a Nokia N800 with firmware version 5.2008.43-7.

In my Application Manager the App list does not load.

In the Application Manager menu under Tools and under Application catalog, the repositories are all missing.

I haven't recieved an update to upgrade the firmware version.

Is there a new way of downloading Apps?

Or do I have to manually reinstall all the repositories one by one.
Anyone can help me with this problem?

Regards Robert

rjcooke 2009-10-10 17:22

Re: Can't download Apps in Application Manager
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobMtl007 (Post 343334)

In my Application Manager the App list does not load.

In the Application Manager menu under Tools and under Application catalog, the repositories are all missing.

Exact same thing happened on my n810 in the last couple of days. Same firmware revision. /etc/apt/sources.list is an empty file, it turns out. Not sure how that happened but I've been fcking around with the machine a lot lately. I know the entries for extras and extras-devel but not sure what the default Nokia ones are.

rjcooke 2009-10-10 18:47

Re: Can't download Apps in Application Manager
 
Are these the preinstalled repos?

Nokia Certified
http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/ chinook user

Nokia system-update
http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/updates/chinook/

Info gleaned from http://www.gronmayer.com/it/

Twinkletoes 2009-10-10 19:13

Re: Can't download Apps in Application Manager
 
Same here

Have not opened my N800 for a couple of weeks or so.

tried to check for installable apps in the apps manager- completely blank.

Checked the Catalogues - all say "failed to refresh"

Came on to Maemo expecting a message saying the repos were down????!!!

Just another occasion where the Tablet and the Opensource hacks me off.

My Canola Last.fm plugin has stopped working - although when I tried to access a "genre" - I obviously connected to something, because when I went into Last.fm from my PC - it showed that I had asked for "country" at some stage.

Lots of other niggles now and obviously we have moved on to Maemo 5 etc.:mad:

Spent to the last few days sailing with a guy who had an iPhone 3gs. even with all annoyance that Apple generate, such as lacking an open access to the bluetooth apps etc. I would have been embarrassed to show my N800.:o Apps on the iPhone were smooth with lots of eye-candy and easy navigation.

Looks like it is time to move on. :(

RobMtl007 2009-10-11 00:59

Re: Can't download Apps in Application Manager
 
These two repos are not there.

When I try to enter them they don't seem to show up on the list.
Its as if the system does not want to save them.

If I do a restore do you think it will work.

changeJunkie 2009-10-11 01:19

Re: Can't download Apps in Application Manager
 
Same here.
I've just re-flashed the device, and still repos don't work.

catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/dists/diablo/Release.gpg

catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/non-certified/dists/diablo/Release.gpg

catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/updates/diablo-2/./Release.gpg

repository.maemo.org/extras/dists/diablo/Release.gpg

Are these known to be down or something? Can anyone else reach them via N800 Application manager?

OS: Maemo OS2008 5.2008.43-7

WiFi acess fine (other web sites, rss, email all working normally)

Thanks

pelago 2009-10-11 13:26

Re: Can't download Apps in Application Manager
 
Those repositories are working for my N810 with same OS version.

RobMtl007 2009-10-11 22:25

Re: Can't download Apps in Application Manager
 
Is there someone from Nokia who can troubleshoot this problem.

I don't want to loose my N800.

I still enjoy using it from time to time.

With the new Maemo 5 when its available I'm sure my N800 will be more
useful.

If anyone can help us it would be much appreciated.

changeJunkie 2009-10-12 00:18

Re: Can't download Apps in Application Manager
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pelago (Post 343766)
Those repositories are working for my N810 with same OS version.

Thanks.
The error I'm getting is:
Failed to refresh. Connection timed out.

wnd 2009-10-12 13:50

Re: Can't download Apps in Application Manager
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rjcooke (Post 343344)
/etc/apt/sources.list is an empty file

As far as I can tell /etc/apt/sources.list is supposed to be empty on Chinook/Maemo. Application Manager -managed list can be found at /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list.

Personally I don't like Application Manager; it hides too many details behind its fancy UI. If you really want to see what's happening, run "apt-get update" as root on command line and post the output here.

changeJunkie 2009-10-14 00:15

Re: Can't download Apps in Application Manager
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wnd (Post 344442)
If you really want to see what's happening, run "apt-get update" as root on command line and post the output here.

Any idea how I can do that (login as root) without access to the Extras repo to download any software?
Searching the forums tells me the default password, but the root account is locked out, so I can't use it, or sudo.

Thanks

dalonso 2009-10-14 00:49

Re: Can't download Apps in Application Manager
 
I'm facing the same problem. I'm pretty sure all servers are down: tableteer, as well as extras.

EDIT: Though this only happens from the N800 device, app-manager as well as apt-get update, as I can reach the servers from my ubuntu box.

rjcooke 2009-10-14 00:51

Re: Can't download Apps in Application Manager
 
no, they're not down. I reflashed yesterday and not 5 minutes ago installed rootsh from extras.

dalonso 2009-10-14 00:52

Re: Can't download Apps in Application Manager
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rjcooke (Post 345874)
no, they're not down. I reflashed yesterday and not 5 minutes ago installed rootsh from extras.

Are you sure? I just reflashed, all servers give a connection timeout!

rjcooke 2009-10-14 01:22

Re: Can't download Apps in Application Manager
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dalonso (Post 345875)
Are you sure? I just reflashed, all servers give a connection timeout!

Yeah, just as another test I installed s4chords (not sure which repo that's in) and it was successful.

rjcooke 2009-10-14 01:25

Re: Can't download Apps in Application Manager
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rjcooke (Post 345896)
Yeah, just as another test I installed s4chords (not sure which repo that's in) and it was successful.

And just uninstalled... those ain't guitar chords.

dalonso 2009-10-14 01:32

Re: Can't download Apps in Application Manager
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rjcooke (Post 345898)
And just uninstalled... those ain't guitar chords.

Yes, it's working now for me too. Weird, as I didn't change a thing.

changeJunkie 2009-10-14 05:21

Re: Can't download Apps in Application Manager
 
Hmmm, well I still can't access these repositories from my N800.

What is weird is that I can't hit them via the web browser on the device either - just doesn't connect.

EG, I've just now opened two new browser windows, one loading slashdot.org the other repository.maemo.org/extras/ on the device.

Slashdot loads after a couple of seconds. But the repository never loads - I get a network timeout error. Even though I can load this same page on my desktop pc.

Any ideas anyone?

wnd 2009-10-14 06:37

Re: Can't download Apps in Application Manager
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by changeJunkie (Post 345856)
Any idea how I can do that (login as root) without access to the Extras repo

If you have ssh server installed and running and you know the root password, try gaining root privileges that way. Run "ssh -l root localhost" and enter root's password when requested.

Also, you probably don't want to do this, but you can access root terminal using "sudo gainroot" IF you have switched the device to R&D mode. Obviously running the device in R&D mode is not recommended for end users. See Maemo wiki for more information on how to enable R&D mode if you really want to do that.

Since you also have tried accessing the repository with the browser I'm not sure what good running apt-get as root will do. It may reveal some additional information but just as likely it may not.

changeJunkie 2009-10-14 07:04

Re: Can't download Apps in Application Manager
 
Ok, all of a sudden now I can access these repositories.

I swapped from DHCP to static addresses for my WiFi connection. I don't know if this actually helped or was just a coincidence. But now its working in any case.

Thanks

VicUser 2009-10-30 17:29

Re: Can't download Apps in Application Manager
 
I'm also having a varient of this problem. Both nokia system software updates and maemo extras fail to refresh after clicking "check for updates". Yet when i download an applic from maemo downloads (using green arrow), both repos refresh (even if the file actually came from Chinook extras). This is annoying, I cant scan the intallable files list without installing something first. What gives?


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