Scratches on Screen ??? Real problem or not ??
 

Now that we have 300 people with a pre-production N900 in their hands, not to mention numerous other people coming out of the woodwork now their NDA has expired, can we have an update on the screen being susceptible to scratches problem as mentioned in the MySymbian (p)review ?

Anyone else noticing the same issue ?

Will a Screen Protector be almost mandatory ?

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Notice that only one preview has come out complaining of scratching issues. Nobody else has mentioned anything. Extrapolate from that what you wil. :)

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Well, it's not like all the reviewers attempt to scratch it. The author of the MySymbian preview only scratched it because of having sand grains or something in his pocket. His N900 didn't come with any protected film, other review devices may have them.

Anyway, what we need is someone/reviewer to "stress test" the screen like how they did with the N97: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB1GxqRFKzw

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I've had my N900 in my pocket for almost a month straight. Not a single scratch.. but I also don't do anything stupid like put my keys in there with it.

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I successfully polish out scratches on the screen of my N82 with a paste of 0.3µm Aluminium Oxide / distilled water and a cotton wool bud. Can you still do this on a touch screen device, how thick is the top layer?

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I do such stupid things. That's why I have revived the pouch that came with my G1 and use it for the N900 now. It fits perfectly. Obviously no scratches so far, even with keys in the same pocket. :)

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I did that with my prototype, and didn't manage to make any scratches appear. That is not to say that final devices can't be more susceptible (though I doubt it), or that particularly unfortunate encounters with sand grains can't still lead to scratches.

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I guess not at a resistive Touchscreen like on a N900!

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being able to do just that (or better: not having to think about this for a single moment) is what i expect from portable consumer electronics devices in general and phones in particular. i wouldn't consider it "stupid" at all.

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You don't think that putting your expensive electronics alongside your metal keys with hard edges is stupid? Are you serious?

Go ahead, do that. lol

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What I think he means is that a mobile phone is a portable mass-market consumer device that you would reasonably expect to see a lot of harsh environments. My mobile goes with me to a lot of places where my tablet does not - I live near a beach and frequently have to put my mobile in the same pocket as some keys (due to lack of pockets in my trousers) whilst in a sandy environment.

It is not unreasonable to expect such a device to be ruggedised by - for instance - having a good scratch-resistant coating. I don't expect it to be unblemished, but I do expect a device to take fair wear and tear without becoming unusable.

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According to people from the live review at umpcportal, the screen is fairly durable - comparable to the N97.

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I'd like to propose that the title of this thread is changed... it's posed as a question, but reads more like a statement/fact. :)

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I think it all depends on the person. For example I have been called a neat freak. My three-year old N95 still looks almost as good as it did the day I bought it. I care for my gadgets and don't do silly things like phone and the keys in the same pocket. I have a rule (with my G1 at the moment in a protective case).. One pocket is G1 and flat things (Credit card, tram card). The other pocket - Keys and wallet. I'm well balanced on both sides and my gadgets are happy in my pockets. Now for scenario 2.. My sister... No matter what phone she gets, it will look like **** in a months. First of all she's not a smart-phone user... Every time she asks to use mine, I have to wipe make up from the screen. When I pick up her phone which lands in her purse with the keys, make up, jewelry etc I have to wipe the dust off of it. So don't ask if the screen scratches easily. If you are the kind of a person that will beat up your gadget - it will happen no matter what. The screen could be made of diamond and you'd still manage to scratch it. If you are the kind of person that cares for your toy - then your gadget will have none or one or two scratches. Remember... It's not how your gadget treats you - it's how you treat your gadget.

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I'd say normal use won't scratch it.

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i'd just like to use it right now...dont care if it scratches at this point! :P

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Wait, so the N900 and G1 are about the same size? If it is we can just use G1 pouches.

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yes. they are close. i i remember the dimensions correctly, the g1 is actually a few mm taller.

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Yes, the G1 is a tiny bit narrower but some millimetres taller.

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@ ceroberts75; pycage:

Thanks, I'm gonna order a leather g1 sleeve for the N900 gonna need something till companies start coming out with accessories.


$9.64 w/shipping, not bad.

http://www.handhelditems.com/google-...k-p-19217.html

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If you compare the G1 and N900 side by side you notice what cheap quality the G1 really is. It looks and feels like **** next to the N900. :D

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yes. i would imagine so.


in thier new version, it is much more "pretty" and they got rid of the tactile KB, which i believe, was a mistake. but nokia's high end units are always sharp for the time that they are released, i have no doubt that this will not be any negative exception!

how about those scratches! lol...on the box of the ....

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I always do just that. - electronic devices, no matter how expensive, are there to be used, not to be worshipped in a showcase.

(OK, forget the "no matter how expensive": of course cheap devices I expect to be less durable. but this is one of the reasons i dont buy them.)

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Well, yes, but a device isn't magic. It has its vulnerabilities.

Speaking of which, Nokia sells phones which are meant to be used in harsh environments. Such as in construction working.

Have to? What about the alternatives? Key cord around neck, wallet, key sleeve/protector, key chain, different trousers, ...

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I tried to edit my original post, but it doesn't change the thread title. Sorry.

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I have the n900 since the summit, since then I have been really careful with it, I have had it in my pocket on occasion, but not with keys or sharp objects, or sand for that matter ;)

Today when I was cleaning my screen I noticed tiny tiny scratches in the screen, you have to look really hard and they're almost invisible, but they are there, and they are not going away. (I think they have been caused either by my nails or by the stylus)

There for, since I have been careful with it (and leaving it mostly at home too), I'm thinking of investing in a screen protector to prevent any further damage.

If you don't care about tiny almost invisible scratches in your device then yea, don't bother, but otherwise its not a crazy idea to buy a screen protector.

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Not too knowledgeable about this stuff, but:

Does a screen protector impair the performance of the touch screen? and by how much?
If so is it worth the tradeoff? Meaning can scratches impair the performance other than just looking bad?

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Just got an email from Zagg saying they're waiting for someone to ship their N900 in to design a screen protector (hopefully full body shield too).

Hopefully it'll be online withing a week or 2 so we can buy them in time for the shipping :-)

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Delicate stuff on the left side - N900, flat card wallet

Hard stuff on right side - Keys, Sig, folder

I like to look after my belongings too.

I saw a pic of Jussi with a lanyard around his neck connected to his N900. That might be a smart idea if I keep it in a breast pocket.

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I absolutely agree with you. I had a lot of devices in my life and always had screen protectors on them. Two weeks ago I bought Nokia 5800XM. I use case for it in every moment. And few days ago I saw a few little scratches made (I think) by plektron or my nail.
So tomorrow I will order screen protector from Vikuiti for my incoming N900. Better to spend 11 euro than look on scratched screen of my beauty.

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Where from ?

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http://www.protectionfilms24.com/sea...eld=nokia+N900

I think Mobile Privacy will be more glossy (I don't like mat). I send them a message with this question.
I asked Brando but they don't know when their Ultra Clear for N900 will be available.

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cheaper on amazon

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Vikuiti-ARMR.../dp/B002OFL4ZO

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I'ts not the same protector. I'ts ARMR200 - fully mat surface.

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oh oops! my bad

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For almost the same price you can have the screen casing replaced for your Nokia 5800... ;)

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So what's a good screen protenctor that will work with the resisitive screen and I can get on amazon uk, please? (Nothing like laziness!)

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I think that the better way is to buy a protector for a few months than replace screen for a few days.

Finally I ordered Vikuiti DQC-160. It's crystal clear and perfectly made. If you order 2 pcs one additional piece is free and shipping is in price.

Page of the product:
http://www.protectionfilms24.com/art...900-28210.html

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Well, if the screen surface on the N900 is anything like the N810's there shouldn't be a problem.

I've had screen protectors on the 770 and N800 since day one, and I believe they were needed on those. I actually also bought one for the N810 but was too lazy to install it before I started using it, and never got around to do it afterwards.

After almost two years of heavy stylus use, the screen surface is still, literally, good as new. I just always carry it in its pouch between uses, is all.

I sure hope the N900 is at least as good.