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Flandry 2009-10-12 15:07
Re: Anyone else switching to KDE thanks to Nokia?
 
What do you mean "switching"? ;)


PS In before it was cool. :P

luca 2009-10-12 15:15
Re: Anyone else switching to KDE thanks to Nokia?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rm42 (Post 344450)
Fedora uses a new package manager called KPackagekit which works rather well and is very fast. Also, PCLinuxOS uses aptget/Synaptic with RPMs with excellent results.
Mandriva has urpmi (had it for ages) and it also works really well.
Ultimately it depends on the quality of the packages/repositories and on the distribution policies, not on the packaging system itself (deb and rpm have more or less the same features).

itkach 2009-10-12 15:19
Re: Anyone else switching to KDE thanks to Nokia?
 
I use GNOME (recently with a tiling window manager - xmonad) and I'm mostly happy with it, don't expect I'll be switching to KDE any time soon. I used to try every new significant KDE release and always went away disappointed finding it incredibly unusable, bloated and unstable. At some point I just lost any hope and interest and stopped trying. Maybe I'll take a look at 4.3, but I don't have high hopes.

I also generally prefer GTK applications over Qt applications as most Qt apps seem to insist on being KDE apps and seem to possess same bloated unusable feel.

Having said that, I am currently rewriting Aard Dictionary UI in Qt (PyQt4) - mostly to take advantage of Qt's WebKit integration, but also for more native look & feel on various platforms and for the fun of it - and I am pleasantly surprised with Qt quality and ease of development (and it looks like GTK when running in GNOME:)). Nokia's announcements regarding Qt on Maemo is certainly another strong argument for Qt. Not sure if it does much for KDE though.

schnebeck 2009-10-12 15:46
Re: Anyone else switching to KDE thanks to Nokia?
 
no need for switching, as long time KDE user since 0.beta4 :-)

You can ask the question also in a differend way: how many "Gearheads" (aka KDEler) start to discover Maemo?

http://dot.kde.org/2009/10/12/free-n900
http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4078

Bye

Thorsten (1st post) :-)

MountainX 2009-10-12 15:50
Re: Anyone else switching to KDE thanks to Nokia?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by schnebeck (Post 344551)
no need for switching, as long time KDE user since 0.beta4 :-)

You can ask the question also in a differend way: how many "Gearheads" (aka KDEler) start to discover Maemo?

http://dot.kde.org/2009/10/12/free-n900
http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4078

Bye

Thorsten (1st post) :-)
Welcome to the forum :)

daperl 2009-10-12 16:17
Re: Anyone else switching to KDE thanks to Nokia?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Verythrax (Post 344127)
PS: item 4 is just flamebait or it's just me?
It seems it's just you. Which makes your response the flamebait. Funny how that works. Oh, and Microsoft's the devil. :)

Like someone else said, no need to switch. My Hildon-Python apps run in Kubuntu just fine. 95% of my code is developed in that environment. And the Webkit Qt integration should result in more browser choices for Maemo.

bronzetank 2009-10-12 19:30
Re: Anyone else switching to KDE thanks to Nokia?
 
As a complete noob to open source and linux, I am trying to decide whether to start with Gnome or KDE. I think I have decided on Ubuntu for my starting distro.

The whole reason for even considering the switch is due to the possibilities I see with the N900. Nokia may think that this device has a limited target audience, but they may be surprised how many people (like me) there are that are looking for a mobile computer with phone capabilities. I am even making the switch to Linux so that I can better understand my N900.

Laughing Man 2009-10-12 19:32
Re: Anyone else switching to KDE thanks to Nokia?
 
Another issue that I've always had is I'm not a fan of the KDE compositioning manager, I prefer Compiz. And never had the time to set down and get it working 100% (disabling/removing KDE's and replacing it with Compiz).

MountainX 2009-10-12 23:33
Re: Anyone else switching to KDE thanks to Nokia?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rm42 (Post 344450)
... I have not run into any dependency problems with Fedora at all in the last two years, since I started using it. Fedora uses a new package manager called KPackagekit which works rather well and is very fast. Also, PCLinuxOS uses aptget/Synaptic with RPMs with excellent results. I have been using PCLinuxOS for about 4 years and I have not had any trouble whatsoever with dependencies. I think that more important than the package format used is the person doing the packages and maintaining them. I would advice you not to limit yourself unnecessarily.
I appreciate the info. I just tried Kubuntu Karmic beta. (Had NVidia driver problems... won't go into details here.)

Next up: OpenSUSE (11.2-Milestone8) with KDE 4.3.2 and kernel 2.6.31. It is installing as I type. :)

But I might have the same issues with OpenSUSE that I had with Kubuntu: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Instal..._ThinkPad_T61p

If I don't stick with OpenSUSE, I'll try Mandriva or PCLInuxOS next.

Just figured I would let everyone know what I'm trying. Thanks again for the tips.

And, right. Microsoft's the devil. ;)

MountainX 2009-10-12 23:38
Re: Anyone else switching to KDE thanks to Nokia?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bronzetank (Post 344766)
As a complete noob to open source and linux, I am trying to decide whether to start with Gnome or KDE. I think I have decided on Ubuntu for my starting distro.

The whole reason for even considering the switch is due to the possibilities I see with the N900. Nokia may think that this device has a limited target audience, but they may be surprised how many people (like me) there are that are looking for a mobile computer with phone capabilities. I am even making the switch to Linux so that I can better understand my N900.
My situation was similar to yours with the N810 and Ubuntu a while back. For me, moving to Linux has been great. I'd never go back. I wish you the same good experiences.

If you go with Ubuntu, Gnome seems the way to go because, as I found out today, most the Ubuntu help seems oriented toward Gnome. When I had Kubuntu questions today I realized how much harder it is to get quick answers. For a noob who has decided on Ubuntu, your life will be easier with Gnome.

I've been pretty happy with Ubuntu these last couple years. I think it was the right way for me to get started with Linux.

BTW, why does everyone call it "Gnome" instead of GDE?


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