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la3875 2009-11-30 06:58

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
I agree with the snooze values from 1-60, and agree that the stopwatch/countdown would be a nice add but not really necessary for me.

Thanks for all of your hard work. The app is really working good now.

sampieter 2009-11-30 11:40

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Quote:

Actually, now that I have the slider interface
Ahh Jolouis! The slider is beautiful: please use it wherever you can :)

la3875 2009-11-30 13:28

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
[QUOTE=la3875;... first thing i noted is alarms are gone though it appears alarms still exist by the icon in the top display bar. I will give it a go and keep you posted. [/QUOTE]

Well I should have tried this over the weekend... Regardless, the old alarms appear to still be active as suspected. Ehile the alarm window showed none active after the upgreade, the alarm icon at the top bar was still there. I set new alarms after the upgrade that were slightly later got the old alarm followed by the new one. I'm going to try and clear all and start over. Will let you know how it goes.

jolouis 2009-11-30 14:50

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Den in USA (Post 400085)
Jolouis, in version 0.9.6, I must hit “Alarm Off” twice before it turns off

Try turning "Insomnaic lock" off, see if that helps; I assume this happens when you've got "Insomniac mode" turned on?

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Ahh Jolouis! The slider is beautiful: please use it wherever you can
Thanks! I'm glad somebody out there enjoys it as much as I do! I did my best to make it fit in with the whole "finger-friendly" mantra of Flip and feel it works quite well/seamlessly for this. If anyone has thoughts on any improvements that could be made for it just let me know!

Quote:

I agree with the snooze values from 1-60, and agree that the stopwatch/countdown would be a nice add but not really necessary for me
Okay I'll implement the slider for the snooze time (that's actually really easy to do now). As for the stop watch/count down timer, I did a quick mockup yesterday and it's pretty easy/looks actually quite cool so I'll finish it up and make it work, just in case. I understand a lot of people won't really care about it... personally I've never seen a use for this type of thing on the tablet, though the countdown mode might be handy I suppose... but at least it will be there if anyone's interested since it's not a heck of a lot of work to implement.

la3875 - Yea just run that clear clear clear command and it will take care of things for you; I actually forgot to implement that in the uninstall file, but will do for next time so that when you uninstall flip if will automatically clear all alarms for you.

Other than that tangent though and Den's issue, everyone's pretty happy with where 0.9.6 is at? I'll also try to get the "random files in a directory" alert mode rolled in as that does seem like a pretty good idea and shouldn't be too hard to do.

Thanks!

Den in USA 2009-11-30 14:55

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jolouis (Post 400698)
Try turning "Insomnaic lock" off, see if that helps; I assume this happens when you've got "Insomniac mode" turned on?

Yes, it works fine if you turn "insomniac" off.

Also, I noticed that although I am using 12 hour mode, in the "Night Mode" the "Alarm Set" time at the bottom left of the screen displays time in 24 hour mode (2:00pm displays 14:00).

Also, sometimes the "seconds" (red inverted triangle) goes away. By going to "night mode" and returning to "day mode" it returns.

GeraldKo 2009-11-30 15:32

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jolouis (Post 400722)

"Feature creep" is definitely not a good thing, but I think there's a big difference between something like "Add a timer to a clock app", and "add a calendar, email intergration, high powered random noise generator, and quantum theory calculator to a clock app" ;-) Have to know when to draw the line right? ;-)

Hey, jolouis, I'm still hoping for that white noise generator or "ambience sound loop"! I hope you're not throwing out the baby with the quantum theory calculator! :)

la3875 2009-11-30 18:37

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
...How about a buttom on the settings page that clears all alarms for lazy people like me? ;-)

la3875 2009-11-30 19:26

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Going back through this page of posts, I don't think I uninstalled the previous version before upgrading to .6... Looks like clear, clear, clear is the path now.

Last observation about the alarms - I hope... So, I did the clear(3) yesterday and noted when I went back to the alarm settings that the path to my music library was still in tact and took for granted all was OK. NOT! (like I noted before I'm a lazy tech consumer) Luckily heard my daughter's alarm this morning. Anyhow it looks like the clear command does not remove the file path and only clears AlarmD. I know this is a small detail but if you dont take for granted that tablet owners are as technically oriented as the rest of this group...

Anyhow, love the new speed of the app and the side swipe to change themes rocks! You are very close to getting out of beta. Thanks always for the effort.

白い熊 2009-12-02 07:51

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
On N900 clean install, doesn't run, fails with:

could not create pipeline, no element "dspmp3sink"
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/flipclock/flipclock.py", line 27, in <module>
import ci_eventsNew as ci_events
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/flipclock/ci_eventsNew.py", line 18, in <module>
import ci_clock
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/flipclock/ci_clock.py", line 11, in <module>
import ci_alarmNew as ci_alarm
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/flipclock/ci_alarmNew.py", line 7, in <module>
import ci_mediaPlayer
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/flipclock/ci_mediaPlayer.py", line 246, in <module>
mediaController = mediaControllerClass()
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/flipclock/ci_mediaPlayer.py", line 151, in __init__
self.mp3Player.playerPipe.get_bus().add_watch(self .watchStatus)
AttributeError: mediaPlayer instance has no attribute 'playerPipe'

jolouis 2009-12-02 20:12

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 白い熊 (Post 404240)
On N900 clean install, doesn't run, fails with:

could not create pipeline, no element "dspmp3sink"
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/flipclock/flipclock.py", line 27, in <module>
import ci_eventsNew as ci_events
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/flipclock/ci_eventsNew.py", line 18, in <module>
import ci_clock
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/flipclock/ci_clock.py", line 11, in <module>
import ci_alarmNew as ci_alarm
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/flipclock/ci_alarmNew.py", line 7, in <module>
import ci_mediaPlayer
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/flipclock/ci_mediaPlayer.py", line 246, in <module>
mediaController = mediaControllerClass()
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/flipclock/ci_mediaPlayer.py", line 151, in __init__
self.mp3Player.playerPipe.get_bus().add_watch(self .watchStatus)
AttributeError: mediaPlayer instance has no attribute 'playerPipe'

Whoaa such an old and wrong version to be trying there! Try the latest Fremantle build from the garage page:
https://garage.maemo.org/frs/downloa...ntle_armel.deb

Thanks!

Den in USA 2009-12-02 20:46

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Jolouis, am I the only one that occationally looses the red seconds indicator with version 0.9.6? When the red indicator disapears, the 0 to 60 second scale remains.

Also, please center the "Alarm Off" text on the button, thanks!

Also, please center the date and day of the week on the bottom center button.

Also, please change the text color of ""Night Mode" and "Exit" from white to black.

sampieter 2009-12-05 00:14

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
After a few days using flip as my bedside alarm clock I can say that it works very good! Great new features; nice finger-friendly gestures; colour choser now with grayscale; etc.

I think that the brightness setting can be even darker when it can be set to '1'. Jolouis explained us that '3' is the lowest setting, but when I used 'Advanced backlight', setting '1' was defenitely darker than seting '3'. would it be possible to change the slider to '1'?

Let me finish with one remark: please remove the background from the 'next theme' button in the flip theme. I see what you want to accomplish here, but it doesn't work for me. It would be nicer when there's text only (and the text nicely spaced in the box).

and finally: I am very eager to see the dixie tube theme back!

白い熊 2009-12-05 16:13

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jolouis (Post 405769)
Whoaa such an old and wrong version to be trying there! Try the latest Fremantle build from the garage page:
https://garage.maemo.org/frs/downloa...ntle_armel.deb

OK, am gonna try momentarily, didn't pay attention to that as that's the version from the feeds, so thought it would be U2D... :)

白い熊 2009-12-05 16:33

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
It runs, big progress.

There is a font issue. When the locale is set to ru_RU it displays garbage where the month and the day name shows.

When wanting to switch to nightmode, segfaults with:
got originalBrightLevel dim: 250
got original dim: 30
No Gconf key for display brightness found!
800 width 480 height
segmentation fault

Every minute segfaults with:
animating frame 0 on digit 3
segmentation fault

wesgreen 2009-12-05 20:42

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 400770)
Hey, jolouis, I'm still hoping for that white noise generator or "ambience sound loop"! I hope you're not throwing out the baby with the quantum theory calculator! :)

jolouis and gerald, taking this idea one step further - how about a silence application that analyses ambient noise (e.g. ac sounds, traffic noise, etc. ) and creates opposite soundwaves to silence it until the alarm rings? this would come in handy in many hotel rooms... these are already available as stand alone appliances. - but of course a more basic version of that, a loop playing wave sounds, white noise, etc. would also be very useful.

GeraldKo 2009-12-06 05:05

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wesgreen (Post 412015)
jolouis and gerald, taking this idea one step further - how about a silence application that analyses ambient noise (e.g. ac sounds, traffic noise, etc. ) and creates opposite soundwaves to silence it until the alarm rings? this would come in handy in many hotel rooms... these are already available as stand alone appliances. - but of course a more basic version of that, a loop playing wave sounds, white noise, etc. would also be very useful.

Cool with me if it can be done. Does such an "anti-noise generator" or "noise canceling system" already exist as a computer program that you can just run on your laptop (or tablet or iphone or ... )?

maacruz 2009-12-06 12:01

FlipClock borked my system on uninstall
 
I installed flipclock 0.9.5 from the extras-devel repository (on a N810). After uninstalling, tablet animations no longer work (for example, the battery applet). If I install flipclock again animations work.
Still haven't found why. Any hint how to fix?

UPDATE: mistery solved. Icon cache isn't updated on uninstall.
After uninstalling, run "gtk-update-icon-cache -f /usr/share/icons/hicolor" as root. And, just to be sure everything is properly updated, run "update-desktop-database /usr/share/applications" and "hildon-update-category-database /usr/share/mime" too.

joppu 2009-12-06 13:59

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
I was playing a little with Inkscape and managed to make a pretty cool vectorization:

http://imgkk.com/i/9GQb72.png

Any idea if it's possible for a skin to have different glyphs for every digit?

Den in USA 2009-12-06 18:44

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sampieter (Post 410901)
and finally: I am very eager to see the dixie tube theme back!

We call it Nixie tube here in California, mybe Dixie tube in Texas.

sampieter 2009-12-06 22:27

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
dixie Nixie Schnixie!

wesgreen 2009-12-06 23:26

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 412554)
Cool with me if it can be done. Does such an "anti-noise generator" or "noise canceling system" already exist as a computer program that you can just run on your laptop (or tablet or iphone or ... )?

it does exist. here's an example:
http://linux.wareseeker.com/Multimed...0.1.zip/321651
and here's a white noise generator:
http://linux.wareseeker.com/Multimed...0.1.zip/321038
connecting the audio/mic ouput jack to larger speakers with more bass response would probably increase the effectiveness of both apps.

jolouis 2009-12-07 15:18

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Sorry to have let this slip for a bit guys, I've been caught up with some other unexpected stuff that I had to take care of! But I should have some time this evening to sit down, go through requests and things and get back to making some progress here!

Thanks!

liveslow 2009-12-08 03:34

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
I've never been so excited for an alarm clock before! Definitely installing this when the N900 shows up.

liveslow 2009-12-08 03:43

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joppu (Post 412917)
I was playing a little with Inkscape and managed to make a pretty cool vectorization:

http://imgkk.com/i/9GQb72.png

Any idea if it's possible for a skin to have different glyphs for every digit?

Very cool look man.

sampieter 2009-12-08 12:04

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joppu (Post 412917)
I was playing a little with Inkscape and managed to make a pretty cool vectorization:
http://imgkk.com/i/9GQb72.png
Any idea if it's possible for a skin to have different glyphs for every digit?

Joppu, that looks very cool! It will certainly help with race-induced dreams :)

Jolouis once explained to me:
The main time is simply a set of images, named 0.png - 10.png that are displayed in the co-ordinates defined by the theme file according to whatever time that digit is supposed to show. So for example, if the time is 12:41, the digit 1.png is rendered at the first position, 2.png at the second, 4.png at the third, 1.png again at the fourth.
If a digit is supposed to be blank (i.e. 2:40, the first digit is blank), then 10.png is rendered in that digit's position.

I don't think that different glyphs are possible.

Reuna 2009-12-08 17:45

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Hello
I'm new maemo user and I could use some help. I would like install flipclock to my n900 and my question is how do I do it.

Den in USA 2009-12-08 17:58

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reuna (Post 416958)
Hello
I'm new maemo user and I could use some help. I would like install flipclock to my n900 and my question is how do I do it.

Go to thread # 252 and you will find the link to FlipClock for N900.

jolouis 2009-12-08 18:10

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Okay let me try to get caught up a bit here...
Quote:

Jolouis, am I the only one that occationally looses the red seconds indicator with version 0.9.6? When the red indicator disapears, the 0 to 60 second scale remains.

Also, please center the "Alarm Off" text on the button, thanks!

Also, please center the date and day of the week on the bottom center button.

Also, please change the text color of ""Night Mode" and "Exit" from white to black.
The seconds indicator will "disappear" when the tablet goes inactive, but should return once active again so you shouldn't visibly see this. In Insomniac mode the seconds indicator should always be there. I have had one or two moments when I've noticed it "jump" two seconds ahead instead of just one if that's what you mean?...

Centering of text will be taken care of, I just implemented it. I will also make the text black on those buttons and fix up the Night mode button which, as is pointed out by others, just needs to be simplified.

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I think that the brightness setting can be even darker when it can be set to '1'. Jolouis explained us that '3' is the lowest setting, but when I used 'Advanced backlight', setting '1' was defenitely darker than seting '3'. would it be possible to change the slider to '1'?
After setting flip to "3", and waiting for Insomniac timeout to occur the brightness is the same as "setting 1" in Advanced Backlight; the only difference is that Advanced Backlight takes whatever value you pick and adds 2 to it... so when you choose 1, it actually sets the tablet to value 3. If you choose 1 or 2, the backlight is OFF. Please check again, because I'm using the code FROM advanced backlight, so there can't be a difference there...

Quote:

UPDATE: mistery solved. Icon cache isn't updated on uninstall.
Thanks for pointing that out, it runs during install but not uninstall. This is fixed in SVN now.

Quote:

dixie Nixie Schnixie!
Nixie tubes, or at least the best I've got so far (I haven't even gone near Ciro's original Nixie tubes yet) will be an available theme hopefully very soon. I'm planning on spending some time tonight tweaking it and getting it up to par (a lot of the interface has changed since my first Nixie design, so need to incorporate those changes to maintain good flow/consistency).

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I don't think that different glyphs are possible.
Can somebody explain what's meant by different glyphs? As sampieter explained, the different digits are separate PNG files that are drawn at the given co-ordinates... Not quite sure what more than that would be different as they're all completely independent right now...? or do you mean different for each part of the clock?...

More to come... thanks all so far!

jolouis 2009-12-08 18:19

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Anti-noise generator would be pretty cool, it's on now on the list of "one day I'll try and get Flip to do this" along with the "ambient background noise" generator (I haven't forgotten, it's just on the long term goals rather than short term list).

As for the N900 I noticed that a few new Maemo5 people have started joining in on our Flip fun here! thanks everyone, welcome! (and thanks for the enthusiasm liveslow!) Right now Flip is still having some issues with working fully on N900 (it crashes sometimes apparently), but any feedback you can give will help me fix it as I don't have a N900 to test with!

Quote:

When wanting to switch to nightmode, segfaults with:
got originalBrightLevel dim: 250
got original dim: 30
No Gconf key for display brightness found!
800 width 480 height
segmentation fault

Every minute segfaults with:
animating frame 0 on digit 3
segmentation fault
Okay awesome feedback thanks! Let me do some playing around in the SDK here and see if I can reproduce it! With the "every minute segfaults", is that when in Night mode, or just any mode?

Thanks!

Reuna 2009-12-08 20:24

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Den in USA (Post 416983)
Go to thread # 252 and you will find the link to FlipClock for N900.

it also need libsgfx and one another libs where do i get them?

Dr Pantz 2009-12-09 15:10

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
OK, let me start off by saying "Long-time listener, first-time caller."

I've searched the threads and learned to uninstall before loading a new version, and I've learned how to clear alarms from previous versions. But, the problem I've had is that my alarms simply don't play any sound.

I'm not one of those guys who says "1 start - doesn't work - uninstalled." Clearly from this and other threads, it works, marvelously, for a lot of people. So something must be wrong on my end. Here's what happens:

I set an alarm and choose a sound file. When the time comes, two buttons pop up on the screen "Turn alarm off" and "Snooze". They pop up and disappear so fast, I can barely read them. That's it. No sound plays, and the buttons don't stay there.

The sound file works. My volume is not muted and is at an appropriate volume. The built-in alarm function works (playing that same mp3.) I cleared all old alarms (flipclock and built-in.) Nothing else is running on the tablet. I have rebooted. I have an N810 running OS2008 and v0.9.5 of flipclock.

Please let me know what else could be wrong. I think I will love this app once I can get it to work for me.

Den in USA 2009-12-09 15:22

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Pantz (Post 418982)
I set an alarm and choose a sound file. When the time comes, two buttons pop up on the screen "Turn alarm off" and "Snooze". They pop up and disappear so fast, I can barely read them. That's it. No sound plays, and the buttons don't stay there.

FlipClock has trouble playing some sound files. I could reproduce your problem by directing it to "play" a file that it doesn't like. Try several different MP3 music files or WAV files.

Dr Pantz 2009-12-09 15:53

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Den in USA (Post 418996)
FlipClock has trouble playing some sound files. I could reproduce your problem by directing it to "play" a file that it doesn't like. Try several different MP3 music files or WAV files.

Damn - why didn't I think of that? Yep, that was the issue! I changed to a different mp3 (tried a few) and they worked perfectly. Thanks so much for your help. Flipclock may become my new best friend now.

jolouis - let me know if you want me to send you the file that Flipclock didn't like. I didn't search the thread - you are probably already aware of this issue and have sufficient examples, but I figured I would offer.

Dr. Pantz

esaym 2009-12-10 04:20

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Anyone having issues where no sound plays once the snooze button is pressed? This seems to only be an issue when flipclock is started from alarmd. Usually I don't leave flipclock running in the background. I tried to do some testing by running flipclock from the console but I could never replicate this :-/ I am playing an mp3 file for the alarm and looping is set

evil_m0nkey 2009-12-10 06:09

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Hey guys

The app looks promising, but I can't seem to get the flipclock installed.
I try installing the version in the Application manager and that just shuts down. I even included your catalogue. I downloaded the latest version and its a .deb package. I cant seem to get it to install on my cell. It has a swirly icon and pressing on it doesnt make any difference

Thanks again

esaym 2009-12-10 15:38

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by esaym (Post 420133)
Anyone having issues where no sound plays once the snooze button is pressed? This seems to only be an issue when flipclock is started from alarmd. Usually I don't leave flipclock running in the background. I tried to do some testing by running flipclock from the console but I could never replicate this :-/ I am playing an mp3 file for the alarm and looping is set

Just this morning the alarm didn't go off at all. When I did finally wake up, flipclock was open and at the screen with snooze or turn off alarm but no sound was playing. I have seen it do this once before. Usually I just don't get any sound after hitting snooze.

jolouis 2009-12-10 15:39

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Pantz (Post 419048)
Damn - why didn't I think of that? Yep, that was the issue! I changed to a different mp3 (tried a few) and they worked perfectly. Thanks so much for your help. Flipclock may become my new best friend now.

Yea basically since 0.9.5 (I think, have to check the changelogs again now) flip implemented "auto-clearing alarms", so when the sound file finishes playing if it's not set to loop, the alarm is considered "off" and the buttons go away. In your case because Flip couldn't play the sound file, it tried then finished, so the buttons disappeared and the alarm "failed". Thanks for helping out before I got to it Den!

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jolouis - let me know if you want me to send you the file that Flipclock didn't like. I didn't search the thread - you are probably already aware of this issue and have sufficient examples, but I figured I would offer.
Oh please if you could that would be awesome! I know a few people have run into this, but I haven't found a sound file myself that doesn't work and most MP3s people have said failed are "not publicly re-distributable". If you could zip that not-working file and email it to me that would be amazing, maybe then I could actually fix this! Thanks!

Quote:

Anyone having issues where no sound plays once the snooze button is pressed? This seems to only be an issue when flipclock is started from alarmd. Usually I don't leave flipclock running in the background. I tried to do some testing by running flipclock from the console but I could never replicate this :-/ I am playing an mp3 file for the alarm and looping is set
Hmmm first I've heard of it, but I usually leave flip running in Insomanic mode since I fixed that brightness level thing. So just to be clear, at alarm time flip opens, the sound plays and alarm buttons show up... you hit snooze and it goes quiet, back to normal clock mode... then in say 5 minutes (or whatever your snooze time was), the alarm buttons pop back up but no sound is heard?

It sounds like there's something else preventing the sound from working... are there any other apps running at the time in the background?

Quote:

The app looks promising, but I can't seem to get the flipclock installed.
What device/OS version are you running? If you're installing from the application manager there shouldn't be any problems... does it give you any errors or?

Thanks!

qole 2009-12-10 20:45

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
jolouis: if the user-selected alarm fails to play, it should play another generic alarm sound, so the alarm will at least work.

Den in USA 2009-12-10 20:49

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 421565)
jolouis: if the user-selected alarm fails to play, it should play another generic alarm sound, so the alarm will at least work.

Jolouis, If the backup alarm is too difficult, how about a "test" button just above the "Alarm Sound" box?

esaym 2009-12-10 21:03

Re: FlipClock Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jolouis (Post 421055)

Hmmm first I've heard of it, but I usually leave flip running in Insomanic mode since I fixed that brightness level thing. So just to be clear, at alarm time flip opens, the sound plays and alarm buttons show up... you hit snooze and it goes quiet, back to normal clock mode... then in say 5 minutes (or whatever your snooze time was), the alarm buttons pop back up but no sound is heard?

It sounds like there's something else preventing the sound from working... are there any other apps running at the time in the background?

Yes that is correct. The only other apps I have running is roxterm. I will try to leave flipclock running tonight through a console and see if I get any debugging info from it. I have had similar issues with the default nokia alarm though too. Are there any special parameters passed to flipclock when it is launched from alarmd?


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