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dwould 2009-12-18 16:18

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
The more days that pass with no fix from nokia, the happier I am I just gave up on it and got a vodafone sim instead.
To be fair I have other reasons to switch that I'd been considering for some time, mostly signal issues. my new vodafone sim is WAY better at the office, and generally around. It makes a big difference to actually be able to get a signal to use that data connection ;-)

spunko2010 2009-12-18 16:28

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Agreed - although Vodafone's Sim Only offers are not great when it comes to GB per month - they allow 500MB for an extra £5 per month whereas three's are unlimited at no cost... Edit: they used to be anyway

bonerp 2009-12-18 16:41

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
I have just contacted 3 in the uk and the lovely Indian lady in Mombassa confirmed that 3 sims wont work in Nokias unless they are supplied by 3. She suggested I pop along to the 3 shop to get a free upgrade to an N97 or some other make....
I politely declined and asked when I can cancel the contract instead as I dont see why I should be restricted to using the phones only they supply.....
They might have better usage deals but actually the overall service is poor and customer service is even worse. Since getting a vodafone sim I have great reception and every time I've rang them I've even spoken to someone sitting in the UK as well :)
My Vodafone SIM only costs £20 per month on 30 day contract with 600 mins talk, unlimited text but only 500mb usage. I will see what the additional cost is next month if I go overt that limit.....

spunko2010 2009-12-22 00:44

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Still no sign of this then? Anyone know how to do it manually? Really cant be bothered to wait for Nokia to release this.

Didn't know Three had staff in Kenya btw. :eek: :p What's "funny" is that Vodafone turned me down for a Sim only 30-day deal (assuming I default that's £20 I owe them, even though I just paid £499 for the phone...). First time I've been turned down for credit in about 5 years! My response? F*ck em. This phone and the shenanigans surrounding it have been a total nightmare. Should have just joined all the other mindless drones and got an iPhone.

Anyway, Nokia, please just hurry up and release this. I don't care about not being able to use it in portrait mode yet, I just want to make a call.

AndrewG 2009-12-22 00:57

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
The problem is that three use a different type of sim, if you look at the chip on a three sim and compare it to any other carriers chip you'll see a difference in size. I think it's like if your three sim is over 6 years old it'll work in the n900 and if it's newer, well... this is the result. I'm hoping Nokia will bring out a fix as im currently stuck with my three sim in my 5800 and i' using some junk tmobile one in the n900.

spunko2010 2009-12-22 01:01

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Incidentally does anyone know why Vodafone do a credit check for a 30 day contract? I'd pre-pay if they're that arsed.

cools 2009-12-23 11:12

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewG (Post 436937)
The problem is that three use a different type of sim, if you look at the chip on a three sim and compare it to any other carriers chip you'll see a difference in size. I think it's like if your three sim is over 6 years old it'll work in the n900 and if it's newer, well... this is the result. I'm hoping Nokia will bring out a fix as im currently stuck with my three sim in my 5800 and i' using some junk tmobile one in the n900.

Ahh, but you look at the SIM holder in the N900 and the pins match up!

My 3 SIM turned up today, and doesn't work. Fortunately I am able to continue to use my existing Vodafone SIM until the bug is fixed.

I did check with 3 that it would work, prior to ordering...

AndrewG 2009-12-23 11:16

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cools (Post 438878)
Ahh, but you look at the SIM holder in the N900 and the pins match up!

My 3 SIM turned up today, and doesn't work. Fortunately I am able to continue to use my existing Vodafone SIM until the bug is fixed.

I did check with 3 that it would work, prior to ordering...

3 were clueless, I also phoned up "blah blah blah it'll work for sure blah blah" "did you buy this phone from 3? i havent heard of it before"

lol...

Fargus 2009-12-23 11:20

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spunko2010 (Post 433541)
I'm not prepared to wait for Nokia to release this fix, as I doubt they'll do it over Christmas break. Is there a way to do it manually via the X Terminal?

Otherwise I guess I'll just end my Three contract and get a PAC code to go elsewhere. The fact that it's marked as fixed in the Bug tracker is slightly frustrating.

Fixed and released are not the same thing. Fixed means the source of the issue has been located and a work around applied and tested. The code has been put to central repository.

Release cycle means that it has been pushed out to all of us - generally much later!

cools 2009-12-23 11:35

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by on the edge of insanity (Post 411633)
With this issue looking like its close to being resolved, does anyone know what 3's 'unlimited internet' on the Pay Monthly £15 SIM actually entails?

Unlimited texts (3000)
300 minutes
Unlimited data (1GB)

AndrewG 2009-12-23 11:40

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
I'm considering getting a gifgaff sim, lol

Fargus 2009-12-23 11:57

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spunko2010 (Post 436942)
Incidentally does anyone know why Vodafone do a credit check for a 30 day contract? I'd pre-pay if they're that arsed.

[Sarcasm Level=Red]
I suspect you'll find it's part of the traceability issues required for legislation as you might be plotting to blow yourself up - that's why you bought an expensive phone rather than a £10 one in Tescos.
[/Sarcasm]

God's Toy 2009-12-27 13:17

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
An odd one here.

My 3 SIM is 3 years old and does not work in the N900 but my Wife's SIM is two and a half years old and does work no problem.

On the back of mine the 3 logo is Gray but on hers it's Green. (don't know if that means anything)

I'm at two minds if I should wait for the fix (Please hurry up Nokia!) or pop down to 3 and tell em I'm getting SIM errors in the 3 phone they gave me to get a new SIM.

uris 2009-12-27 13:49

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
You can ask new SIM from the operator, newer may use less voltage providing longer battery life as well

speculatrix 2009-12-28 22:29

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by God's Toy (Post 442915)
My 3 SIM is 3 years old and does not work in the N900 but my Wife's SIM is two and a half years old and does work no problem

interesting that.

so, get a free SIM from Three here:
http://threestore.three.co.uk/PAYG/SimOnly.aspx

get a free tesco mobile sim here:
https://www.tescomobile-freesim.co.u...format=715x161

1/ use up all your credit on Three (switch to PAYG if on contract?)
2/ port your number to tesco mobile,
3/ use up any tesco mobile credit
4/ port your number back again
5/ claim the £10 for porting back in - profit!!

Keir 2010-01-03 11:22

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
it's been comfirmed in bugzilla that the Three UK sim's will work with the .52 firmware.

:D

Venomrush 2010-01-03 14:34

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Keir (Post 451008)
it's been comfirmed in bugzilla that the Three UK sim's will work with the .52 firmware.

:D

It'll be a while before the fix is out by the look of it.

Keir 2010-01-12 20:17

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Hmm someone has changed the status to VERIFIED .

Can someone Verify that it is now fixed.

I'm not at home so cannot check myself.

bonerp 2010-01-12 21:28

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
its about time it was released then :(

roundyz 2010-01-12 21:37

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
dosnt work on mine with the mini firmware update from yerterday, im hoping for the 1.1

Keir 2010-01-12 21:41

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Crap, I wounder why the staus has been changed in buzilla then.

fnordianslip 2010-01-12 21:56

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
They have fixed the bug, but have not released the fix. It's fairly obvious, in my opinion.

Keir 2010-01-13 11:15

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Not rea!ly..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugzilla

VERIFIED
After a fix has been made available for public, the reporter looked at the bug and the resolution and agrees that the appropriate resolution has been taken or that he/she cannot reproduce the bug anymore.


McChicken 2010-01-13 11:21

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Yea...it do suck to have a N900 next to me for a month now, and not be able to use it....My head have been drifting towards a Nexus One or the coming SE X10, but after some research, they have their own issues. it seems like the consumers now adays are the factories QC dept (Quality Control)

bonerp 2010-01-13 11:28

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
yup, certainly always been the case with Nokias! My N96 was a dog a remains so. N97 not much better when released for a long time either! Slowly thats getting sorted. I dont get how nokia 'testers' dont spot these problems within the first few days of testing release version phones...

Keir 2010-01-13 11:57

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Yeah but the fact is, they think the issue has been resolved.
And we're happy with the fix.

Alan_Peery 2010-01-14 17:56

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Yes, the new firmware makes the N900 work with the non-standard SIMs from 3. The T-Mobile PAYG can now be tossed, until my 3 contract finishes. At that time, T-Mobile has a 30 day rolling contract called Solo 20 that looks pretty good, if a bit light on data at an "unlimited" 1Gb/month.

Alan_Peery 2010-01-14 18:00

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spunko2010 (Post 433541)
The fact that it's marked as fixed in the Bug tracker is slightly frustrating.

Yes, it was. Fixed but not yet released, as they were wrapping it up in big firmware release.

It shipped today, and it works. My 3 SIM is now fine in my N900.

jjx 2010-01-14 18:07

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
My 3 UK SIM which did not work before is working fine with PR1.1. Have used voice, SMS and data already. This message brought to you by N900 over 3 UK GPRS :)

Queb 2010-01-14 18:30

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Yeah at last !!! :)

bonerp 2010-01-14 20:51

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
how do you manually select a network??

Keir 2010-01-14 23:42

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonerp (Post 472093)
how do you manually select a network??

Settings > Phone > {scroll down} > Network.

Click/press automatic selection.


Why do ou want to do that anyway?

speculatrix 2010-01-15 14:02

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Keir (Post 472656)
Settings > Phone > {scroll down} > Network.

Click/press automatic selection.


Why do ou want to do that anyway?

because you're roaming and you want to roam to the cheapest network rather than the strongest one?

bonerp 2010-01-15 14:05

Re: Important UK issue - N900 doesn't work on 3 mobile?
 
Its ok I was having a moment....
I readt the '3 sim issue fixed thread' but didnt realise it was because of the new release yesterday d'oh! I was gonna try to manually connect to see if it worked.


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