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fpp 2009-12-11 09:39

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Here is my first post on TMO using the N900 with its own SIM and 3G connection. It has no interest whatsoever but I thought it fitting that it should be in this thread :-)

twaelti 2009-12-11 09:47

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And now battling with DHL... which were unable to deliver my properly addressed N900 yesterday because they couldn't find my home...in the Capital of Switzerland, a 50 year old house in a street with hundreds of residents, in the 21st century with GPS available everywhere for a dollar?
DHL = Fail

debernardis 2009-12-11 11:20

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Well it's home at least :) I'm almost in awe with it... Transitions, mic, display, everything is good. I've played with the browser, installed something from extras (openssh, rootsh, Petrovich - thanks for it!) and when I feel more natural I'll attack Qole's easy debian and openoffice.org.
All in all, a beautiful device, both aesthetically and functionally. Has to be hacked to give its best. But I'm saying the obvious. Thank you Quim, thank you Nokians; both for the good work and the benefit granted to the community :)
http://www.rumorsdaily.com/brd/wp-co...ogo-nokia1.gif

wazd 2009-12-11 12:33

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Yeah, I want to thank Quim, Nokia, Forum.Nokia and second Maemo Community Council for their great job at fair benefiting community developers. Keep up same way!

VDVsx 2009-12-11 12:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wazd (Post 422662)
Yeah, I want to thank Quim, Nokia, Forum.Nokia and second Maemo Community Council for their great job at fair benefiting community developers. Keep up same way!

As for the Maemo Community Council part, at least the current council did the things right IMHO.

We did our best, sorry.

Mara 2009-12-11 12:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 421800)
Its been in the New York City-Gateway for almost 12 hours. :(

Is it still there? My N900 just arrived to that holding area this morning.:rolleyes:

Frank Banul 2009-12-11 15:04

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Mine has been there close to 24 hours now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mara (Post 422701)
Is it still there? My N900 just arrived to that holding area this morning.:rolleyes:

Oh, but it's out now and in TX.

And delivered.

YoDude 2009-12-11 15:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mara (Post 422701)
Is it still there? My N900 just arrived to that holding area this morning.:rolleyes:

No, it cleared customs but got on the wrong bus to Cincinatti :eek:

Quote:

December 11, 2009 02:35
Cincinnati, OH - USA Arrived at DHL facility in Cincinnati, OH - USA
DHL tells me "No soup for you" this week-end. Monday at the earliest. :(

jandmdickerson 2009-12-11 20:22

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I just got my N900 delivered in California! Excuse me while we cuddle....:D

BTW it came with the Euro charger and charger adapter.

twaelti 2009-12-11 20:28

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DHL saved my soup, came in today :-)
Smile smile smile...

geneven 2009-12-11 20:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 416735)
You summarized adequately in your usual hostile, denigrating, negative, sarcastic, pointless way, sure.

Why are you still here?

Actually, I'm not still here; that's why it took so long for me to see your comment asking me a question. Now you have asked me another question.

You asked me if I had read that earlier post. I explained that I didn't trust in paying a lot of money for something based on somebody (who I have no reason to trust, and who specified that they weren't promising) saying that they might be able to help if I suddenly had a useless small computer, even if the problem was 100% caused by Nokia.

I offer to anyone here -- send me $400 and I'll try to give you $400 in value back. But I can't promise. And I get to keep the money, regardless.

You basically challenged me on whether I had read the last post of the man, and I furnished the quote. It turned out that the quote entirely substantiated my comment.

As to being denigrating, sarcastic, etc, I plead guilty. Sorry about that.

Texrat 2009-12-11 20:53

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The question was meant in a broader sense. But never mind. I was out of place for asking.

YoDude 2009-12-11 23:53

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So I get home from work, scan the forums, answer an e-mail, then get called for dinner. Just as I finish my salad the door bell rings...
Soup for me!... I kid you not.
I hadn't bothered to check the tracking after talking to DHL this morning. It seems a weather delayed plane got to my final delivery airport at 11.02 this AM and my phone was the last delivery my driver had before her 1, 1/2 hour drive back to the depot.

I'm charging it now and can't wait to play. :)

BTW Qole,

Customs Value: NDS
Imp/Exp Type: Permanent
IV: 0.00 EUR

allnameswereout 2009-12-12 11:39

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The dead pixel is immediately apparent when I started up the device (after Nokia logo) because its white where the rest is black. Its also in ~middle of screen, distracting me the whole time, and pissing me off. It is especially apparent in dark backgrounds, but it appears to be gray as well, so I thought it might not be a 'hot pixel' (always active). I installed mplayer, and ran mplayer -loop 0 jscreenfix_720pal_mpeg2.mpg for a day. Did not fix it. This morning I send device back. (If someone can use this specific device for _anything_ including but not limited to development while not being distracted all the power to them!)

Quote:

Originally Posted by qgil (Post 420987)
I meant exactly that. :) Good that you contacted the DDP

Alright. Quick and professional response, I'm confident it'll be solved.

This problem happens to the best LCD products it is just the timing in my case is unfortunate because I had to also send back my current phone. Also, in this specific program we have one week for RMA so it is important to find any quirks ASAP.

FWIW, here is a dead pixel test page which uses javascript and images. This one works on N900. The other ones I know are either WIn32 or Java.

Mara 2009-12-12 15:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 422979)
No, it cleared customs but got on the wrong bus to Cincinatti :eek:

Mine did go to CIncinnati too. Mine says it was "cleared" in Cincinnati, so I believe customs was in Cincinnati instead of NYC. It may very well be so that all DHL shipments from Europe to US do go to Cincinnati for customs clearance. (Unless someone here prove me wrong... :p)

tvogel 2009-12-13 22:32

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Got my N900 last Thursday but had to send it back because the vibration alert stopped working after a few hours. Maybe another test you want to do within the first week? Regards, Tilman
Edit: Instead of the vibration (on incoming call e.g.) I heard a very faint very high pitch sound coming from the device. I guess the eccentric weight lost contact with the motor. I checked the preferences: vibration set to on.

YoDude 2009-12-13 23:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tvogel (Post 426296)
Got my N900 last Thursday but had to send it back because the vibration alert stopped working after a few hours. Maybe another test you want to do within the first week? Regards, Tilman

I just noticed mine has no touch screen vibration. The vibrator fires up when I boot the thing so I'm thinkin' it might be software related.

It's not something I miss because I never had it to begin with... so mine is staying put and not going anywhere. :)

... unless someone thinks this is indicative of a larger problem?

Texrat 2009-12-13 23:42

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Isn't that controlled by a setting?

YoDude 2009-12-14 00:47

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yes it is but "Display > Touch screen vibration" has no effect either way.

sjgadsby 2009-12-14 13:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mara (Post 424441)
It may very well be so that all DHL shipments from Europe to US do go to Cincinnati for customs clearance.

I've no idea why, but my N900 decided to skip the Cincinnati tour bus, instead going straight from New York City-Gateway to Harrisburg, PA over the weekend. On the plus side, I should receive it today.

GeneralAntilles 2009-12-14 14:51

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Bah, missed the DHL guy by all of 5 seconds. Those guys really don't wait around.

sjgadsby 2009-12-14 15:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 427210)
Bah, missed the DHL guy by all of 5 seconds. Those guys really don't wait around.

I'm interested to see how DHL delivers my N900. Before DHL pulled their quick retreat from the U.S., our DHL driver always wanted to chat for at least five or ten minutes after delivering a package. Quite a nice guy, but it felt odd in contrast to competitors who just want to get their runs done so they can go home.

Our FedEx driver is of the second type. We've no windows on the driveway side of our house so we're not certain, but we strongly suspect he or she is a former newspaper delivery person. It doesn't sound as though the truck ever comes to a full stop, and we find our packages randomly placed (and scuffed a bit) in the driveway as if they were simply thrown.

Our UPS guy, in contrast, went so far as to simply walk in our front door to carefully place packages on our coffee table until my wife asked him to stop. It was kind of him, but it worried her to hear an unknown someone walking around downstairs.

Mara 2009-12-14 15:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 427210)
Bah, missed the DHL guy by all of 5 seconds. Those guys really don't wait around.

Wait? They don't leave the package at front door if nobody is home? Do they require signature?

GeneralAntilles 2009-12-14 15:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mara (Post 427229)
Wait? They don't leave the package at front door if nobody is home? Do they require signature?

Yes, although it seems you can put a signature on the doortag for them to leave it the next day.

anidel 2009-12-14 15:27

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Nice, after 12 years BA employee (cabin crew) decided it's time for a new strike.. so now, in honour of those 12 years, they have announced a 12 days long strike from the 22nd of Dec to the 2nd of Jan.

This means that I might have to find another company to fly back Italy and this means good bye discounted N900...

Unless they cancel the strike...:(

TA-t3 2009-12-14 16:28

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I got DHL to deliver to the office. They won't try to deliver outside office hours, and there's always someone there to sign it and I get a call when it arrives. Got it within an hour after touchdown.

smegheadz 2009-12-14 19:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 427210)
Bah, missed the DHL guy by all of 5 seconds. Those guys really don't wait around.

if you like you can give them my address and i'll make sure i'm there to sign for it so you dont miss out :D
MUhahhahahahaha

Texrat 2009-12-14 19:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 427226)
I'm interested to see how DHL delivers my N900. Before DHL pulled their quick retreat from the U.S., our DHL driver always wanted to chat for at least five or ten minutes after delivering a package. Quite a nice guy, but it felt odd in contrast to competitors who just want to get their runs done so they can go home.

Our FedEx driver is of the second type. We've no windows on the driveway side of our house so we're not certain, but we strongly suspect he or she is a former newspaper delivery person. It doesn't sound as though the truck ever comes to a full stop, and we find our packages randomly placed (and scuffed a bit) in the driveway as if they were simply thrown.

Our UPS guy, in contrast, went so far as to simply walk in our front door to carefully place packages on our coffee table until my wife asked him to stop. It was kind of him, but it worried her to hear an unknown someone walking around downstairs.

My FedEx / UPS experiences are the opposite of yours. Great service with FedEx, consistently. But UPS drivers toss packages onto the porch and RUN (I kid you not) to the truck like track stars. Didn't make me happy when it was a printer...

GeneralAntilles 2009-12-14 20:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 427642)
My FedEx / UPS experiences are the opposite of yours. Great service with FedEx, consistently. But UPS drivers toss packages onto the porch and RUN (I kid you not) to the truck like track stars. Didn't make me happy when it was a printer...

Interestingly I've always had excellent, friendly service from UPS and poor service from FedEx. Goes to show how useful anecdotes are, I suppose. ;)

sjgadsby 2009-12-14 20:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 427642)
My FedEx / UPS experiences are the opposite of yours.

Oh, I know the level of service I'm seeing from the different delivery companies doesn't hold true across drivers, routes, or regions. When I lived in an apartment, the UPS guy for the complex regularly expressed glee at having smashed small packages under larger ones.

More on topic, the DHL driver who delivered my N900 apparently saw me pull out of my driveway after lunch. He chased after me in his van, honking the horn, so he could make the delivery. I suspect it had more to do with not wanting to drive out from Harrisburg again than with dedication to customer service, but either way, it served me well.

qole 2009-12-14 22:06

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Delivery today
Footprints in new-fallen snow
No brokerage fees

Texrat 2009-12-14 22:11

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Man, I'm really glad to see you guys are getting your devices!

YoDude 2009-12-14 22:41

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Haptic feedback woke up!
I couldn't find a way to easily fire up the vibrator from within so I rebooted 2 or 3 times and each time the vibrator motor seemed more vigorous. Now the touch screen vibe works. I guess the motor needed to run in a bit. :)

On another note: I see all these threads with various hardware and software issues. I think there must be something wrong with mine... it has no issues what so ever. :p

Oh and SJG, This morning I got a T-Mobile, 3G data only plan for only $29.00 per month... no contract!
I'll post the particulars shortly in the other thread. :)

3G at a buck a day ain't all that bad. Now I need to find out how I can tap into the N900's connection via BT from my N810 so I can keep that in the car, semi-permanent like. :cool:

bunanson 2009-12-14 23:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 427210)
Bah, missed the DHL guy by all of 5 seconds. Those guys really don't wait around.

Well, you beated me, I missed them by 5 min. I ran up the live chat, "Where are you located and where can I pick it up?"
"We are located in Arizona and you can pick it up from our service station. Just give me your phone number, ...." Dumb like a rock!

bun

bunanson 2009-12-15 01:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 427958)
...Oh and SJG, This morning I got a T-Mobile, 3G data only plan for only $29.00 per month... no contract!
I'll post the particulars shortly in the other thread. :) ...

Hey, more info please. I dont have a phone and I dont tie to any plan yet. I have been shopping for awhile. Can I just buy the 3G data only, or do I have to have a phone plan and add data to it? This is what I found,
================================================== ====================
Want Internet access for your laptop or Windows Mobile® device? Get connected anywhere within the T-Mobile network with an Internet-only plan.
View Data Plan Terms
Plan name Whenever Minutes Data per month E-mail per month Price per month
T-Mobile webConnect 200 MB Data Plan Lite None 200 MB N/A $29.99
T-Mobile Total Internet None Unlimited Unlimited $39.99
T-Mobile webConnect 5GB Data Plan None 5 GB N/A $49.99
================================================== =====================


bun

johnkzin 2009-12-15 02:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 428193)
Hey, more info please. I dont have a phone and I dont tie to any plan yet. I have been shopping for awhile. Can I just buy the 3G data only, or do I have to have a phone plan and add data to it? This is what I found,
================================================== ====================
Want Internet access for your laptop or Windows Mobile® device? Get connected anywhere within the T-Mobile network with an Internet-only plan.
View Data Plan Terms
Plan name Whenever Minutes Data per month E-mail per month Price per month
T-Mobile webConnect 200 MB Data Plan Lite None 200 MB N/A $29.99
T-Mobile Total Internet None Unlimited Unlimited $39.99
T-Mobile webConnect 5GB Data Plan None 5 GB N/A $49.99
================================================== =====================


bun

That is the whole plan. It includes no minutes and no text messages ($.20/min for calls, not sure about the per message cost for SMS/MMS). If you put it in a data device (card, dongle, internal card, etc.), then you probably wont use those anyway. But if you put it in a phone that you plan to use as a connected-PDA, then you could, in theory, still use it as a phone/messenger. I don't know if there's a way to turn that "feature" off, or not.

But, yeah, you can take any "smartphone", and put it on one of those 3 plans, and just use it for data. Though, for $59.99, you get the 5GB data plan, unlimited messaging, unlimited night and weekend calls, unlimited t-mobile to t-mobile calls, and 500 minutes for other calls, no contract, no phone subsidy.

But, if all you're going to use is 200MB/month of data, and nothing else, $29.99 is hard to beat. $1/day.

Texrat 2009-12-15 03:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 428018)
Well, you beated me, I missed them by 5 min. I ran up the live chat, "Where are you located and where can I pick it up?"
"We are located in Arizona and you can pick it up from our service station. Just give me your phone number, ...." Dumb like a rock!

bun

At least you can pick up!

UPS was delivering a motherboard for me once, and I saw it arrive at a main hub near Dallas, then come to a distribution center very near me, then-- back to the Dallas hub again.

Arg! :mad:

They told me there was a delivery error and it would take another day or two to get to me. I asked if I could pick it up from the hub, and they said that wasn't allowed. When I asked why not, they said because they would not be able to locate it at the hub.

...

bunanson 2009-12-15 03:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 428260)
That is the whole plan. It includes no minutes and no text messages ($.20/min for calls, not sure about the per message cost for SMS/MMS). If you put it in a data device (card, dongle, internal card, etc.), then you probably wont use those anyway. But if you put it in a phone that you plan to use as a connected-PDA, then you could, in theory, still use it as a phone/messenger. I don't know if there's a way to turn that "feature" off, or not.

But, yeah, you can take any "smartphone", and put it on one of those 3 plans, and just use it for data. Though, for $59.99, you get the 5GB data plan, unlimited messaging, unlimited night and weekend calls, unlimited t-mobile to t-mobile calls, and 500 minutes for other calls, no contract, no phone subsidy.

But, if all you're going to use is 200MB/month of data, and nothing else, $29.99 is hard to beat. $1/day.

1) I am interested in the $39.99 a month, I believe no contract, will this plan allow me to connect in place there is no wifi? If it allows me to connect in place of no wifi, once online, can i use internet phone to make calls?

2) 200 MB/month is a joke, is it? Say to load a simple web page is about 5 mb, I guess, an ESPN would probably burn out the whole 200 MB on only one visit! I was with att 20 MB per month gophone, I went to 4 web sites, just surfing, it already bounced off limit and ask for more money!

3) has anybody use the $39.99 plan? I may just go with that if it is no contract. Or I will take the $59.99, but this one has 2 yr contract, I assume....

bun

bunanson 2009-12-15 03:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 428266)
At least you can pick up!
...

Yeh, right! I am in NC and the AH sitting in Arizona were saying you can come and pick it up! Arizona and NC is 3 hr time zone difference, driving would be 30+hr one way, keep asking me to confirm pick up with my phone number.... :mad: if he/she has a brain, he/she certainly forgets to bring it to work.

Anyhow, with a lot of patience, and "prompting", he/she then able to locate a city within 1 hr drive.


Sorry, I did not make it clear on previous post....

bun

johnkzin 2009-12-15 03:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 428293)
Yeh, right! I am in NC and the AH sitting in Arizona were saying you can come and pick it up! Arizona and NC is 3 hr time zone difference, driving would be 30+hr one way,

Sounds like a lack of commitment to Maemo, to me ;-)


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