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afrcblack58 2009-10-16 17:48

Nokia N900 vs Motorola Cliq
 
Motorola Cliq battery standby time is 360 hr Does the Nokia N900 has more battery standby time as the motorola cliq?

kaithomsen 2009-10-16 17:57

Re: Nokia N900 vs Motorola Cliq
 
I was told by some Nokians in Amsterdam that they got the N900 to last about six days on standby when 3G and Wifi were turned off. Was the Cliq standby time actually measured or is it in the specs?
Personally I think the time the batteries last under typical usage is more important. Having used the N900 now for about a week as my main mobile phone, mobile browser and email/messaging device I'm at about 1 1/2 days until the batteries run out. Compared to other Cortex 8 devices (iPhone 3GS, Palm Pre) I think that's not too bad.

allmine1976 2009-10-16 18:01

Re: Nokia N900 vs Motorola Cliq
 
Motorola's are crap .

UCOMM 2009-10-16 18:47

Re: Nokia N900 vs Motorola Cliq
 
you should be looking at the moto droid instead of the cliq, 3.7 inch screen same screen rez, etc...

and infact the droid is marketed as a tablet

johnkzin 2009-10-17 04:10

Re: Nokia N900 vs Motorola Cliq
 
And the motorola sholes/droid will have a GSM version (in europe at least). Looks like a pretty sweet phone.

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Moto...ne-p_4173.html

Unfortunately, the only one announced for the US will be on Verizon.

c0rt3x 2009-10-17 10:15

Re: Nokia N900 vs Motorola Cliq
 
I found a nice little debate over at T-Mobile Forums, I'll just paste their best answer over here.

http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/boar...thread.id=1871

Quote:

Since the phone is designed to always be on line, Nokia isn't publishing any kind of "inactive" standby times. All the battery life times are based on always being connected. Not necessarily talking or browsing the web actively, but connected to the system so that the phone is periodically checking for emails etc.

It looks like you would have to plan on charging the N900 every day since it claims to have "1+" days battery power when not actively using it. I think that the Motorola's standby time of 372 hours isn't based on being connected to anything. Just the phone sitting turned on but disconnected from the internet, not a realistic situation at all for a portable always connected pocket computer.

franklinn 2009-10-17 12:18

Re: Nokia N900 vs Motorola Cliq
 
As a Nokia fan, I hate to say this but it appears Nokia has lost the high end smartphone battle. Great as Maemo is, I don't believe it will attract the as much developers as Android, OSX etc or achieve the same momentum.

So its a good job Nokia has moved into services but the jury is still out on that - 'Comes with Music' is such a flop as is Ovi in its current state. I hope I'm wrong but its hard to see Nokia retaining its dominance but it'll still be a significant player. Maemo just can't match the development speed of deep pocketed Google backed Android - next generation Android eclair is ready for release already and looks impressive http://phandroid.com/2009/10/16/andr...d-leak-galore/ .

I worry. Could someone convince me otherwise ?

c0rt3x 2009-10-17 12:30

Re: Nokia N900 vs Motorola Cliq
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by franklinn (Post 349512)
As a Nokia fan, I hate to say this but it appears Nokia has lost the high end smartphone battle. Great as Maemo is, I don't believe it will attract the as much developers as Android, OSX etc or achieve the same momentum.

So its a good job Nokia has moved into services but the jury is still out on that - 'Comes with Music' is such a flop as is Ovi in its current state. I hope I'm wrong but its hard to see Nokia retaining its dominance but it'll still be a significant player. Maemo just can't match the development speed of deep pocketed Google backed Android - next generation Android eclair is ready for release already and looks impressive http://phandroid.com/2009/10/16/andr...d-leak-galore/ .

I worry. Could someone convince me otherwise ?

Well, the first version of Android sucked (screen resolution limitations, processor limitations). If they want to keep their customers happy, then they'll need to make the future Android apps availible for the early adopters as well - and thus the apps will suffer from quality (because they won't be able to make use of the newer hardware).

The whole idea of making Android 1.5 (I'll consider 1.0 as beta software) to only support 480x320 screen res and Qualcomm MSM7201A 528 MHz processor will be the back-bone of the success of the platform in the future, at least in 2010, when support for the earlier devices can't be dropped.

jalladin 2009-10-17 12:33

Re: Nokia N900 vs Motorola Cliq
 
I dnt think any convincing is necessary because "the proof will be in the pudding so to speak" ... once its out and has a chance to be warmed up in hand, long enough. Those of us desperately awaiting it ( and appreciate it for the powerful computing portability ) will love it some skeptics will undoubtedly like it but will only post their gripes and complains about the small things ( which to me are valid when its something we are all having issues with but in time will will be fixed ) but honestly what device is flawless... I think ppl just like to name off issues just for the sake of doing so.

zehjotkah 2009-10-17 12:35

Re: Nokia N900 vs Motorola Cliq
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by franklinn (Post 349512)
As a Nokia fan, I hate to say this but it appears Nokia has lost the high end smartphone battle. Great as Maemo is, I don't believe it will attract the as much developers as Android, OSX etc or achieve the same momentum.

So its a good job Nokia has moved into services but the jury is still out on that - 'Comes with Music' is such a flop as is Ovi in its current state. I hope I'm wrong but its hard to see Nokia retaining its dominance but it'll still be a significant player. Maemo just can't match the development speed of deep pocketed Google backed Android - next generation Android eclair is ready for release already and looks impressive http://phandroid.com/2009/10/16/andr...d-leak-galore/ .

I worry. Could someone convince me otherwise ?

in which country do you live?

franklinn 2009-10-17 12:49

Re: Nokia N900 vs Motorola Cliq
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 349527)
in which country do you live?


I live in the UK where 'Comes with Music' is reported to have 33000 users :(

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10...a_cwm_figures/

Crashdamage 2009-10-17 13:21

Re: Nokia N900 vs Motorola Cliq
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by franklinn (Post 349512)
...it appears Nokia has lost the high end smartphone battle. Great as Maemo is, I don't believe it will attract the as much developers as Android, OSX etc or achieve the same momentum...Maemo just can't match the development speed of deep pocketed Google backed Android.
I worry. Could someone convince me otherwise?

Sure. The same things were said about Android and the G1 when I pre-ordered it. They'll never compete with Apple and the iPhone with all it's apps, etc. etc.

But...even though the G1 and Android as first released were FAR more limited than the iPhone, as in:

a. A very, VERY basic, plain-Jane UI, no virtual keyboard, no auto-rotate, etc. etc.
b. Had few pre-installed apps, some were trash and almost nothing in the apps market.
c. Was missing many ordinary functions like bluetooth transfer, etc. etc..
c. Only one kinda goofy-looking phone with very limited memory was available for many months.
d. Initially was only available in the US and only on the #4 carrier.

I could go on, but you get the idea. Point is, despite all these shortcomings Android is now booming and the Android Market just passed 10,000 apps.

The N900/Maemo right now is light years ahead of where the G1/Android was only a year ago. Plus it has a friggin' global monster - Nokia - and a very active OSS community backing it.

No worrry. Maemo will do just fine...

ysss 2009-10-17 13:39

Re: Nokia N900 vs Motorola Cliq
 
I'd be wary to pit N900\Maemo against Android, iPhone or even the Pre at this point in terms of commercial success because Nokia is releasing the device at a pre-mainstream level AFAIK.

The battle will commence on Maemo 6 imho.


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