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Re: Why So Many Free Apps For The N900?
For my part i ve created a small shareware game, VectorMine
So as it s a shareware i should be able to put my game into extras and user that want to register and got their serial code can do it on my website. But as the QA Testing is mess, the web package interface is full of bugs, i was never been able to push my game to extras ... So i've stop some paid app project i ve for this plateform, now i just bug fix my old open source softwares. |
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Once you have EasyDebian installed, you do not need to apt-get, because OpenOffice is preinstalled with EasyDebian. Also, to be a bit more accurate when it comes to installing EasyDebian; you download an installer from the repository, not EasyDebian itself. When you run it, the installer asks you where to save the huge, huge EasyDebian file, then it downloads it. Which takes quite a bit of time. As in, hours. Once it's downloaded, the installer waits for user feedback, then it unpacks it. While it unpacks it, your cell phone is quite unresponsive. This also takes quite a while. After that, it's done installing, and you get a few new icons around in the menus. Including one for OpenOffice and one for the disgrase of a program that is known as Gimp, reigning world champion in redundant "file" menus. You should reboot, to get your phone back to responsiveness. At least this is how I remember it. |
Re: Why So Many Free Apps For The N900?
Hey Nokiaman!
Good to see someone with your attitude here! I'd like to answer you, but it's a little long, I hope you don't mind. Quote:
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And, most of the developers do it just for fun. But I'm sure you can donate money to them if you like to. Noone will say no if you send them some money. :) Quote:
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Most people just want everything for free nowadays. Quote:
- Angry Birds (it is a must have) - Bounce (it's too short, unfortunately, but you can use it to show off - people will instantly get jealous to your N900 when they see it!) - Tux Race (now this is HUGE!) - And finally, if you knew and liked the old Transport Tycoon game, you'll love OpenTTD. (my personal favourite time-consumer game) Smaller ones: - If you liked the WM "Bubble Breaker" game, then Blubbels - Cube (it's a Rubik's cube) - Impuzzle (play a puzzle game with one of your own images) - EightyOne (sudoku - my other favourite time-consumer) - Nako (memory game) - Labirynth Lite (too short, too) Quote:
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If there are no apps open in the background, it presents you the app menu button there. Quite logical. But what is it you don't like about it? |
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To get an idea, check my signature. Only one of those was a port of a regular Linux app but it involved an almost complete re-write. I also have two more in the works and 2 more planned. Quote:
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N900 is windows 98ish hardware, which was running office 97 that puts it into perspective. I wouldn't advise using this as a full office editing suite, but if you absolutley must edit some file it's damn well good to atleast have the option! |
Is there a reson for the lacking of apps in ovi?
This is purly my speculation and thoughts about why their are hardley any apps on the ovi store for the n900.
I have a feeling the reason that there are very few apps on the ovi store for n900 is the the un-usual orientation for phones in the uk and possibly the size of the screen. These factors would make porting apps that will be used accross multiple phone platforms a pain in the back side. Any thoughts on this anyone? did nokia shoot them selves in the foot on this one? |
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Lack of proper payment system discourages commercial developers from what I understand
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I am not sure buy my guessing is that since maemo 5 the maemo developing team has been busy making the platform stable and fixing the bugs. This is because maemo 5 is pretty new and pretty suffisticated. Maybe because of this, it is harder to make maemo optified/bug free. Also, this 'team' has possibly already been merged with meego and therefore have less time for maemo. And, the meego team was probably significantly smaller than the symbian team due to the amount of devices the symbian OS covers. Finally, and I hope the last is not true, they consider this community to be somewhat self-supporting and therefore lack in the service.
I hope all are not true, just guessing from a kinda neutral point of view |
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That's why Meego, Symbian 3, and QT 4.6 compatibility is important, it provides the userbase. |
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Mainly because of the lack of qt 4.6 on PR 1.1.1.
I´m sure that after we get official PR 1.2 (my guess=tomorrow) we are getting more apps to the ovi store. |
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- Have people reported about bugs in maemo.org Q&A / repositories - If it´s reported then how long it has been broken? -- Is it confirmed? Links to bug? - Who is responsible in fixing that part of maemo.org? - Why there is stuff in extras at all? Or is it that some people tolerate broken/fck up systems better than other people :| After i have joined here it feels like whole place is just standing still. Luckily after 5 months the stylesheet of this webpage was fixed :D (clicking threads with too many pages was impossible, wonder how maintainers used this webpage with their N900s) |
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I know its a bit off topic but its my topic. Why do you think tomrrow or was it a joke i just dont get?
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I believe that given QT is coming out, which is compatible with Symbian, Maemo/Meego and Windows mobile, once you code an app it will work across all.
So once qt is released on N900, we will see a huge number of apps (relatively speaking) from Rovio, Shazam (as shown in the video), accuweather (again on qt video) etc. This is in the immediate future, in the long term as apps are rewritten for Symbian 3 in qt or meego/maemo we will benefit also. Not having apps now...just because we are still early adopters..the phones still being launched in some markets (e.g. India) so it should have a bright future in terms of apps at least |
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This is a fairly standard resolution, so that is not it. I'd rather explain it like this:
"You Are An Early Adopter". |
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Laughingman, yeah that's what I meant to say...apps are more on the future than now. But I suspect nokia will release pr 1.2 with a FEW well known apps since they're already being coded. I hope they release shAzam as shown
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Heh, I'm a fairly early iPad adopter and I think it was well worth th price of admission. Their unified development environment (heck, it's basically an oversized iphone/touch anyway) lends itself very well to iPad's quick start.
There are already 5000 'native' iPad apps (optimized for its screen size and new UI elements) and it can also run the 190,000+ iPhone apps (pixel doubled). I wonder when QT4.6 will gain traction and 'explode' through Ovi store. |
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hehehe I love the way most threads on this site devolve into a pr1.2 discussion and then Chuck Norris, Just as I have done ;)
Seriously though, I wonder if flash 10 will make things better? I seriously think that if everyone were to support something like Flash, as in the ability to use alot of the phones functions then you could see an awesome rise in apps. If you could develope for one phone but it could be used on almost all then your onto a winner! |
Re: [Maemo 5] We need more apps! Why aren't there more applications in Ovi and Extras?
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Guys, I am only on page 21 of this thread, but I have to go now. I just wonder if any one that has tried the PR1.2 RC noticed any difference in performance when using the MAFW Equalizer. Are any of you using that?
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Spyware on my N900? Better be joking. |
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I'm fairly sure the answer the original question is : Nokia keeps messing people up because the product is fairly raw. I'm sure the MeeGo announcement has made people especially reluctant until they've got a concrete target platform.
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That youtube video looks promising...
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Here are some reasons why there is little commercial development for the N900 and we are largely just getting apps from the "Linux Arts & Crafts Movement"
-Nokia hasn't published any numbers as to how many n900's have been sold, so developers have no idea how big a pool of potential purchasers there are. If you are coding for your dinner, this is important. Apple & Android offer a huge number of potential purchasers in comparison. Hell, Palm probably offers a huge number of potential purchasers by comparison. -The Ovi store experience is extremely rough when compared with the app store experiences for Iphone & Android platforms. -The perception is that Nokia largely abandoned the Maemo 5 platform almost as soon as it launched it. Why bother coding for a relatively small, abandoned user-base who will probably have moved on to something else by the time you are ready for release. Remember, coding substantive applications for commercial sale takes investment in time & money and is often about hitting a moving target at just the right time in the product release cycle. -Nokia's corporate structure and executive leadership is in flux & Nokia has neither exhibited or made huge commitments to Maemo/Meego in the past. Even if they publicly threw their entire weight behind Maemo/Meego now, who knows what the next batch of execs will decide. None of this is attractive to a developer. Some of this may change once PR 1.2 is out and developers get a hypothetical bridge to Meego with the next QT. |
Re: [Maemo 5] We need more apps! Why aren't there more applications in Ovi Store and Extras?
Speaking as a potential (and put-off) app developer, I'd
have to say most strongly that Nokia has hamstrung any app development. The change from Maemo to MeeGo is a major problem, though I can understand that big moves like that can't always be controlled and, for Nokia in the long run, it's a good thing. The app store launch was ridiculously badly handled. Both the store interface being broken and the content. Why, oh why, didn't Nokia get a few devs onboard before the store went live to pre-populate the store with ~10 apps at launch. Oh and 50 euros to register and same old 30% rake. Come on! Nokia is a big handset player but is a small app store player and is now going backwards. Someone at Nokia needs to come out with an official announcement that unambiguously addresses Nokia's app support. e.g. competition for best apps, waiver of reg fee, lowering of 30% margin, clear statement of support for Maemo -> MeeGo migration. To date, Nokia's support of the app store concept has been horribly flawed, secretive and ambiguous. David |
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We're running a friendly app competition over the next month, if you'd like to contribute or interested in learning more about creating apps then please get involved :)
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=53112 Im learning too, and I understand it can be a frustrating experience for the beginner. Hopefully the competition will help people take the plunge in app development, get some ideas flowing, find support, and at the end of it maybe a few more applications for us all to enjoy :) |
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I registered as a publisher in a matter of minutes. The process of registering new app and uploading it is very easy and straighforward. The store technical support is responsive and reacts fast. The testing process takes time, but QA team acts as advertised - within 6-8 work days. Please share the source of your information, because my experience with publisher interface of Ovi Store is very different to "It. Does. Not. Work.". |
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Be more active people. Acting instead of complaining. |
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Publisher gets money transfers to the designated bank account once a month. What's improper about this? |
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