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Re: N900 vs. Motorola Droid (Verizon Android device)

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Originally Posted by rm42 (Post 351682)

:eek:
... Congratulations on finding out before it was too late. ;)

Congratulations on an entire content-free posting dedicated to ridiculing someone who actually has a valid argument.

Re: N900 vs. Motorola Droid (Verizon Android device)

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Originally Posted by JayBomb999 (Post 351646)

I slowly fell in love with the N900 over the last 2 months, but I must confess that the Droid is probably better for me. ...

I'm probably going to cancel my pre-order for the N900.

I guarantee you are not the only one doing this.

The timing is critical, and a short delay for the N900 could have a big impact on its future.

Even if the Droid is not a better device than the N900, if Verizon does very high profile marketing, they could take away a huge percentage of the early adopters who would have gone with the N900.

Thinking back on the talk about T-Mobile's "game changer", siphoning off key early adopters is a real game changer, IMO. The Droid could do this. Once those key people have been diverted from the N900, it can be hard to recover...

Re: N900 vs. Motorola Droid (Verizon Android device)

umm as of now i don't see anything compelling about this droid hype . At the end of the day all the apps on the market for android is geared towards the G1 and mytouch so the droid is in the same boat as the N900 when it comes to no released "wow apps" even if i had the chance to get the droid i wouldn't.

Also verizon will never take away from N900 crowd. 1 verizon is only US based. 2 verizon is expensive .

Re: N900 vs. Motorola Droid (Verizon Android device)

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Originally Posted by rm42 (Post 351747)

I am sorry my comment sounded condescending to you. I was being dead serious. Maybe I misunderstood what you meant. It is just that to me, the greatest feature of the N900 is the development freedom that it offers. It has revived in me the desire to do desktop (as opposed to web) development. And I know that I will be joined by dozens of computer geeks in creating code for this device. I am also very interested in being able to view and edit my word processor documents and my spreadsheets anywhere and at any time. I want access to sqlite to make some small database applications to organize some info that I want to have with me at all times. That is why I am buying this device. I would buy it even if it did not have a phone. And I don't care what features Motorola, Apple, HTC, etc put on their device. As long as they don't allow me to create a quick Phython app while I am on the subway, or allow my fellow geeks to do as they please with the OS and create and distribute whatever app they want, I am just plain not interested. *That* is what makes the N900 special, not the other specs. All the other specs can and will be outdone by other devices in no time. But, the that geek freedom feature is going to be hard to beat. If those other features are what you are after, I'd say look elsewhere. Seriously.

The n900 may be good for geeks, but Nokia have to create a product and be able to market it to mainstream.

At the end of the day, Nokia needs to make $$$. There are not enough hardcore LINUX/developer geeks that Nokia can profit much (especially with the competiton droid,HD2,iphone). This is not good for Maemo as Nokia would eventually pull the plug and try something more mainstream to sell.

Nokia did not create the n900 out of the goodness of their hearts just for geeks. They need to sell more so the platform can take off and eventually profit.

Re: N900 vs. Motorola Droid (Verizon Android device)

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Originally Posted by mykenyc (Post 351812)

It's an interesting point you make about the apps being geared to the G1/Mytouch. Do you mean because they all have half the screen resolution? That's a fair point if they aren't compatible with the Droid...

Yet another reason for me to wait a few weeks to make a decision.

Re: N900 vs. Motorola Droid (Verizon Android device)

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Originally Posted by sschueller (Post 350901)

Is it just me or does anyone else find the new Droid phone from Motorola ugly?

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/...roid-hands-on/

It has similar specs to the N900 so I wonder how it compares.

Ha, motorola still exits? I remember my V3 years ago....my last motorola phone.

Re: N900 vs. Motorola Droid (Verizon Android device)

Apple are really killing Nokia 7.4 million iPhone's sold in a quarter and that's with all the restrictions and limitations. Puts the sales of the Camera lens scratcher n97 in the shade. So iPhone has been out since 07 yet no response from the phone giant. Jus found that my n900 pre order is now due in November and tentative at that. What a lousy outfit the once great Nokia has become. Even motorola is showing signs of life - the dext was announced after n900 yet its already in the shops. What in the world happened to Nokia? What has become of it ?.

Re: N900 vs. Motorola Droid (Verizon Android device)

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Originally Posted by JayBomb999 (Post 351710)

I'll ignore the snarky tone and condescension.

The N900 is very much for me. I just don't think the mobile computer description is very apt. It's much more a smart phone to me.

I can't stand the tone sometimes, either, but to be honest, he may be right on target this time. The fact you don't see the N900 as a mobile pocketable computer is glaring. Have you ever used Linux on a desktop, preferably Ubuntu or Mint? If you had, that perception would change. This is no smartphone. I'm considered a smartphone expert by many all over the world, and smartphones are my specialty and the center of my life, so please trust and believe me.

Android is a smartphone OS. Maemo is a desktop OS in its 4th or 5th version, and only now gracing smartphones. It could easily power a laptop with a touchscreen, with no loss in performance from your typical desktop. You may need a primer in Linux, as I got thanks to the guys here, and then you'll get it.

The N900 lets you leave the laptop in the car most of the time. Simple as that. You may love the N900, but your perception and expectations aren't fitting the N900's capabilities. Its possible to buy too much device, and you sound like a candidate.

@ bugelrex,
The Maemo OS doesn't need mainstream success. Nokia has positioned Maemo as a premium OS, with Symbian as the mainstream, and they expect the N97 and N97 Mini to outsell the N900, along with other models.

Maemo is the proving grounds for Symbian^4+ apps by way of Qt. Nokia already makes mounds of cash, and doesn't need Maemo to do so. They have services for that, since device sales will continue to slow across the board. It may create a new genre for them to lead, but no one else is in this space, so whatever marketshare Maemo gets is 100% of its market. I see Maemo and Symbian as a single solution, with one complimenting the other. Maemo was brought closer to the smartphone market to spur developers, and Linux developers outnumber iPhone and Android devs all day long. And the apps from future Maemo devices will keep Symbian's ecosystem at or near the leading position, and Nokia will surely maintain the lion's share of the smart device market when combining their two OSes.

Re: N900 vs. Motorola Droid (Verizon Android device)

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Originally Posted by JayBomb999 (Post 351832)

Not only that Nobody really knew about droid until recently everything else was rumor. Also i cannot see anyone utilizing the droid specs yet until everyone (especially devs) have those type of phone to use . Also because droid is cdma don't see it being unlocked and because GSM dominates the world not many developers developing for its specs. Just my humble opinion.

It doesn't have flash in the browser. It doesn't support hardware level developing. It doesn't support tv-out as i know of. It's only for verizon. It has a high screen and android 2.0 which will break a lot of apps that are only 1.6 unless google release a ota update for eclair etc etc

Re: N900 vs. Motorola Droid (Verizon Android device)

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 351013)

Technically speaking, Android is Linux.

Android is Linux like TIVO is Linux. Or what's that other Linux that runs on phones? LinMo? In pure terminology, yes those devices are Linux because they use a Linux kernel. In praticallity and most people terms, if your expecting an open platform when you hear the word Linux then Android, Tivo, and Linmo are far far from it.

Edit: And I thought Droid was just Sholes renamed?