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somedude 2009-10-30 21:00

Re: A No Thanks, of sorts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matan (Post 361954)
I dislike the idea of "no thanks", but see this example of a post that was thanked:

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...3&postcount=74

What can a user who does not want this crap in this forum do?
There is "Report This" link, but reports of something which is not an obvious spam are apparently being ignored.

Unnecessary thanks would never go away with the current system unless those members mature and actually value the important steps and ideas presented by fellow members.
And the current system of thanks is the best one IMHO. LIke everybody said no thanks and other sorts will just create a big mess and would take forever to clean up.

Jed 2009-10-30 21:05

Re: A No Thanks, of sorts
 
The thanks system is a repeated failure wherever it's tried.

It may start out as a mechanism for rewarding 'useful' posts, but it always devolves into an 'attaboy' mechanism...rendering the 'thanks count' pretty darned useless.

Much like the way that 'report this' mechanisms are inevitably used by wusses.

Tintin 2009-10-30 21:08

Re: A No Thanks, of sorts
 
Maybe it's been brought up but...how about a 'Not relevant''flag?

Sometimes threads goes for a long time, multiple pages.
As they progress a number of things can happen:
- jokes takes off adding up numerous posts,
- posts that are now irrelevant as they refer to a bug that is fixed, etc

The thread can still be valuable...but things like the above 'Clutters it'.

If we could 'vote' on posts to be 'not relevant' and as soon as they get say five votes - they don't show in the thread anymore - NOT affecting Karma in any way - maybe that would be something useful.

RevdKathy 2009-10-30 21:13

Re: A No Thanks, of sorts
 
I can see the possible value of the 'not relevent' but I do wonder if there's not a risk people will use it to prevent someone else's opinion from being seen.

Personally, I don't see the off topic posts as too much of a problem: they tend to happen in the more lighthearted threads, or ones where the main topic has already been dealt with. A skim through the Applications, say, or Fremantle fora shows that while some of the posts in 'n900' are less serious when necessary, posters can keep to topic and remain focussed.

Jed 2009-10-30 21:14

Re: A No Thanks, of sorts
 
You forget the latent ******ishness of humans, and the mob/herd mentality they often exhibit.

Within a week or two, your 'voting' system would become the blunt tool of retribution for any and all manner of mindless squabbles.

Tintin 2009-10-30 21:17

Re: A No Thanks, of sorts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jed (Post 361983)
You forget the latent ******ishness of humans, and the mob/herd mentality they often exhibit.

Within a week or two, your 'voting' system would become the blunt tool of retribution for any and all manner of mindless squabbles.

Good thing its all over in 3 years then :)

Texrat 2009-10-30 21:29

Re: A No Thanks, of sorts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jed (Post 361970)
The thanks system is a repeated failure wherever it's tried.

It may start out as a mechanism for rewarding 'useful' posts, but it always devolves into an 'attaboy' mechanism...rendering the 'thanks count' pretty darned useless.

Much like the way that 'report this' mechanisms are inevitably used by wusses.

No.

You are making the common mistake of confusing loud, obvious exceptions with the quiet majority.

I recommend coursework in statistics. May be eye-opening for you.

I also recommend you tone it down a bit.

Jed 2009-10-30 21:33

Re: A No Thanks, of sorts
 
FWIW, I once implemented a 'patronage' system, of sorts.....where a select few (eg. the original site admins) are able to up-vote or down-vote posts. They can also award voting privileges to those they consider worthy, but such an award must be agreed by simple majoritarian democracy among the current vote-privileged members.

Worked pretty well....interesting posts did tend to bubble to the surface. Regular users could filter threads by signal:noise ratio, so there were less "I hate wading through crap" complaints.

Jed 2009-10-30 21:41

Re: A No Thanks, of sorts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 361992)
No.

You are making the common mistake of confusing loud, obvious exceptions with the quiet majority.

I recommend coursework in statistics. May be eye-opening for you.

I also recommend you tone it down a bit.

You are making the noobish mistake of trying to sound l337 when you have no idea who you're talking to.

Quit trying to play daddy, it's lame.

Texrat 2009-10-30 21:43

Re: A No Thanks, of sorts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jed (Post 362004)
You are making the noobish mistake of trying to sound l337 when you have no idea who you're talking to.

Quit trying to play daddy, it's lame.

Today's nominee for best unintentional irony. :rolleyes:


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