Flash Player 9 for Linux released...when will this hit the 770? :)
 

http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/

Unfortunately there's no mention of an arm or a TI binary. I even wrote to Nokia saying that I would pay money for the next OS upgrade if it included significant upgrades to its browser and flash player.

Any ideas on how this one will turn out?

I guess there won't be flash 9 for N770. AFAIK Flash 9 has noticeably higher requirements for memory and CPU so it is not very suitable (=unusable) for device with 64mb RAM and 250Mhz CPU.

http://www.adobe.com/products/flashp...fo/systemreqs/
Specified minimum is 128MB and and 450Mhz. Most of such minimum configurations for software are very optimistic.

Well, it's definitely the news of the week for us Linux users. Some, like my self have been fortunate enough to not have moved to Linux until just a few months ago, while others have had to deal with the headache of a dated version of flash for way too long.

as for getting it ported over to the 770, I think with a loud enough voice from us Internet Tablet users, we could easily get Nokia and Adobe to hammer something out. It would be a damn shame if we had to reverse engineer it and produce it ourselves. But even without it, we'll be fine. After all, look at what options we had before the 770 came into our lives.

One thing's for sure, this will make it just that much better to be a desktop Linux user. Expect to see a lot more people converted because of this development.

Also, you can check out my post about it on NET9.

Those are the x86 based processor requirements. An ARM based binary might require considerably less horsepower since the processor is different; let's hope anyway.

I just came here to post that link too, guess someone read Slashdot earlier than I did ;)

In fact ARM cpu in N770 lacks FPU unit which is normal in x86 world since 486 or pentium. And flash may use lot of FP calculations for graphics rendering so I guess ARM is even worse than x86 but yes, we may hope :-)

Also what people mean by flash 9 is to play flash videos. Those video codecs might be even harder job for poor CPU in N770.

I guess when you will cry loud for Flash 9 and Nokia will listen (because customer is always right no matter what), you'll get something you won't like at all :-)

Same for Java support.

Maybe in next hardware version.

Anything is possible. I'm not asking for much more from the 770 hardware at this point, but I think the software should have some room for optimization still. I could live without a Flash 9 upgrade for the 770, but I think the OS and applications such as the web browser could be a bit snappier.

well we have flash 6 on 770. don't see why we can't have 9.

Right, simply rotate the 6 180 degrees and you get a nine, can't be that hard.

Flash Videos on the 770 are unrealistic, on my P3 Linux-Laptop i have to switch from 500 MHz to 700MHz to play them smoothly.

It depends on video resolution and bitrate. Watching 320x240 videos (youtube format) on Nokia 770 should be ok. MPlayer handles most of them fine and the problems that are still remaining (deadlocks on long videos because of much longer startup time) are not cpu power starvation related.

Even MPlayer on desktop PC does not support seeking and has some other troubles with *.flv. But seems like new version 1.0rc1 that is sheduled for release this weekend can fix at least some of these troubles :)

So Serge, do you think it would make more since to get the web browser optimized for embedded MPlayer to play video through some trivial hacks or is it more realistic to believe upgrading the flash player is possible? At the moment we can play Google Videos and YouTube videos fine using MPlayer, but we still have to download them first. Is there any way we can get MPlayer to directly stream the .flv when we click a link on these sites?

I don't know, it just seems we have more control of the MPlayer solution than a Flash solution at this point.

If anything more recent than flash 6 comes to the 770, I believe it will most likely come from Nokia licensing Flash Lite which is meant for mobile/lowend devices. I believe it does video and most of what flash7/8 does with the exception of 3d processing.

Well, all that I want to say is that it is technically possible to play such video on Nokia 770 and cpu is fast enough. I only commented this issue because I have seen too many posts from people who give up too early and believe that "it is impossible because hardware is too limited" :)

Whether it will be implemented in the form of flash plugin developed by adobe or via running mplayer from a browser or using gstreamer to integrate flash video support into browser or other applications does not matter.

I don't have flash plugin on my desktop PC as I consider it evil and none of the sites I visit on regular basis use it (except for some banners that do not contain anything useful anyway) :) So I'm not particularly interested in spending my time on supporting this stuff. But I surely don't mind if anyone comes up with a good solution for watching flash video from a browser using mplayer.

Check this link, maybe it is possible to play *.flv video this way (did not try it myself): http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...5&postcount=84

Sure, it is free software, so anyone can join its development and implement any features he wants.

Great! Thanks for clearing that up for me. Also, thanks for the link. It looks like a great way to get MPlayer to be more integrated with the Opera browser, and actually this seems to be the most logical way to handle most multimedia streams anyway.

This is probably a pipe dream but Songbird done up for the 770 could solve a lotta multimedia needs. If it could be done, that is.

http://www.songbirdnest.com/

Bill

Wait, isn't Songbird just an audio player though?

I use Songbird for audio and video. Works fine with flash, YouTube and Google Video.

Bill

I'm encountering websites that claim they can't find a flash player on my system, even though I see it listed in plugins. So obviously the current tablet version is out of date. Sure hope an update is coming soon...

Granted, a few generations behind. However...
 

I'm a little confused about the information on the page located at the following link:

http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer_sdk/

Perhaps someone can explain this to me.

First, it looks like there is some kind of an SDK available for implementing Flash Player 7 on other devices - not only that, but there is "redhat" linux source code available for a plug-in version of the Flash 7 player.

Second, that page makes it appear as though the Flash 7 SDK is free, and a charge is simply made for every copy of the player that is sold. If this is the case, then what, truly, is holding us back from making Flash 7 for the 770 a reality - at least from a developer community perspective?

Certainly, for something like this, a saleable, closed-source solution wouldn't be frowned upon (at least...not by me.)

-ed