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menno 2010-06-10 19:18

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Just a heads up in case you havent seen this. The new Contacts Merger does a great job of merging the duplicate facebook contacts, and any other duplicates :)

http://blog.barisione.org/2010-06/co...-maemo-extras/

etuoyo 2010-06-11 07:37

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Heremes is no longer working for me. When I click retrieve it starts loading and then stops and with an error message (or something like that):

Something went wrong: global name Urllib2 is not defined

I even uninstalled and reinstalled and still get the same problem.

Plus when I reinstalled I added a hermes shortcut but it did not appear on my desktop and is no longer in the list of add shortcut so the shortcut has disappeared into thin air.

jpnurmi 2010-06-11 19:41

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Hi. Looks like hermes/engine/twittwer/service.py is missing 'import urllib2'. You can disable the Twitter account (or add the missing import if you feel comfortable with that).

stlpaul 2010-06-12 21:52

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
doesn't work for me, it always says I need to authenticate facebook (which I have) and then says "something went wrong".

It also opened microb and opera mobile at the same time once. Weird. :)

Jaffa 2010-06-13 11:55

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
With 0.8.2 you'll only get "missing import urllib2" if Twitter is down. Unfortunately integration testing error handling is tricky when you want to check behaviour when a third party service is down.

These silly dynamic languages without any compile time safety don't help.

slender 2010-06-13 12:01

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stlpaul (Post 712546)
doesn't work for me, it always says I need to authenticate facebook (which I have) and then says "something went wrong".

It also opened microb and opera mobile at the same time once. Weird. :)

So question is. Have you edited ANYTHING from your n900 browser settings by hand (x-termn + conf files) or have you installed ANYTHING from testing of devel that might change how browser work in DEFAULT n900. If yes then itīs not so weird :)

Scruff 2010-06-13 12:36

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Hello,


Firstly, Hermes is a great idea. When I had it working it was amazing.


However, it has now stopped refreshing or retrieving. It says Something went wrong:list.remove(x) (x) is missing


Does anyone know how to sort that out? I'd like to get Hermes working again


Thanks


Edit: I've rebooted and reinstalled, doesn't make a difference

Jaffa 2010-06-13 13:42

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scruff (Post 713076)
However, it has now stopped refreshing or retrieving. It says Something went wrong:list.remove(x) (x) is missing

Can you:
  1. Open X Terminal
  2. Run /opt/hermes/bin/hermes >MyDocs/hermes.log.txt
  3. Email me (or attach it to a bug report) the hermes.log.txt. It will be exposed over USB mass storage, or will appear in the root of your N900 in a standard Maemo file selector.

Thanks in advance.

Scruff 2010-06-13 14:11

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 713149)
Can you:
  1. Open X Terminal
  2. Run /opt/hermes/bin/hermes >MyDocs/hermes.log.txt
  3. Email me (or attach it to a bug report) the hermes.log.txt. It will be exposed over USB mass storage, or will appear in the root of your N900 in a standard Maemo file selector.

Thanks in advance.


Ok, I'll do that now

Scruff 2010-06-13 14:55

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Actually, I've got it working by disabling my Twitter account. It is recognising one of my friends as my girlfriend though, and given him her photo, birthday, profile etc. Bit odd

Jaffa 2010-06-13 14:59

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scruff (Post 713240)
Actually, I've got it working by disabling my Twitter account.

Excellent; although I'd still appreciate the log - otherwise knowing which line of code is causing the problem is harder to diagnose!

Quote:

It is recognising one of my friends as my girlfriend though, and given him her photo, birthday, profile etc. Bit odd
Are their names similar? Or did you have your girlfriend's facebook.com URL in his contact? More details, please :-)

"It's just one of those things" isn't valid - if Hermes can't be trusted to update the right contact, it's a major bug! (Not one I've seen with my 400 contacts, but there's a limit to our testing).

Scruff 2010-06-13 17:40

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
One is called Carnaghan and the other Mercer, so not similar at all really. It's given him her birthday and everything. I'll report the bug when I get a chance - phone's charging after an afternoon of playing with it and the football starts in an hour. I will send it over though

GiGi. 2010-06-13 18:41

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Is there any progress on hyves support for hermes?

stlpaul 2010-06-13 20:21

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stlpaul (Post 712546)
doesn't work for me, it always says I need to authenticate facebook (which I have) and then says "something went wrong".

It also opened microb and opera mobile at the same time once. Weird. :)

tried it again today and it worked. maybe it takes a while for facebook to expose the authentication?

arkanoid 2010-06-14 14:41

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Tried LinkedIn sync, it works really great!
Is there any livejournal or plaxo sync WIP?

sjgadsby 2010-06-14 15:01

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arkanoid (Post 714575)
Tried LinkedIn sync, it works really great!
Is there any livejournal or plaxo sync WIP?

Please see, vote for, and perhaps even expand the information submitted for enhancement requests:
Both requests are waiting for someone to investigate the services' respective APIs to see what information may be pulled from them and how it might be matched with existing contacts. It would be wonderful if you could assist with that.

Jaffa 2010-06-14 15:41

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 714609)
Please see, vote for, and perhaps even expand the information submitted for enhancement requests:

Thanks. Fredrik's got a good handle on Plaxo and it should be straight forward. When we do that, we should also pull in the additional information like phone numbers and email addresses that LinkedIn provides.

However, we're taking at least a week's breather and it's very important to realise we are not considering adding syncing. Phone numbers for your LinkedIn/Plaxo contacts will be copied to your contacts (if turned on in preferences) if they are missing. If you edit them they will be re-added when you next run Hermes.

hawaii 2010-06-14 19:25

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Hey Andrew,

Newest release still doesn't populate all my Twitter contacts for some reason. Does it discard accounts without first and last names set or something similar?

Thanks.

christexaport 2010-06-14 23:03

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
When will the N900 community escape its Twitter and Facebook biased development? Nearly a year from release, and nothing but multiple FB and Twitter clients, yet no MySpace, Tumblr, or Hi5 support.

I've asked, as have others. Android devs get it. iPhone gets it. Blackberry gets it. Why can't Maemo/MeeGo??

Tunnel vision has stymied N900 development more than anything. I wished I knew how to code. Most everyone else is too busy for anything not used in "Silly" Cone Valley.

sjgadsby 2010-06-15 00:09

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 715367)
When will the N900 community escape its Twitter and Facebook biased development? Nearly a year from release...

The N900 was released in late November - early December 2009, so "nearly a year" is approximately doubling the time time that has actually passed. Your point would stand without the exaggeration.

Quote:

...and nothing but multiple FB and Twitter clients, yet no MySpace, Tumblr, or Hi5 support.
Programmers working for free, in their own time, do tend to select the projects that interest and benefit them personally.

Quote:

I've asked, as have others.
And Jaffa asked that you, and anyone else wanting expanded service support in Hermes, open an enhancement request in Bugzilla for each service so he could track the information--and the various services' importance to the community. When that appeared to be a barrier, I openned the MySpace request for you. I'd hoped the head start would help as you provided the remainder of the information Jaffa requested.

Unfortunately, that enhancement request was never updated with additional information, and of all the N900-toting, MySpace-using Maemo community members out there, only one felt the service's addition to Hermes important enough to devote a few moments to voting for it.

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I wished I knew how to code. Most everyone else is too busy for anything not used in "Silly" Cone Valley.
You could have assisted with the development of Hermes in the direction you wanted without knowing the first thing about coding. Yes, it's a royal pain that a shared sign-on system for *.maemo.org still isn't in place, but if you've too little free time to open an account and vote in support of your own interests, it seems odd for you to complain that others haven't given up much larger blocks of their own free time in support of interests that aren't their own.

nosa101 2010-06-15 00:12

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 715367)
When will the N900 community escape its Twitter and Facebook biased development? Nearly a year from release, and nothing but multiple FB and Twitter clients, yet no MySpace, Tumblr, or Hi5 support.

I've asked, as have others. Android devs get it. iPhone gets it. Blackberry gets it. Why can't Maemo/MeeGo??

Tunnel vision has stymied N900 development more than anything. I wished I knew how to code. Most everyone else is too busy for anything not used in "Silly" Cone Valley.


What if the developers don;t have MySpace, Tumblr, or Hi5 accounts?

hawaii 2010-06-15 01:47

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
What if nobody but 1% of users can about MySpace, Tumblr and Hi5? You want developers to spend their time on a project that will get no feedback, no publicity and be just about useless to the platform?

Jaffa 2010-06-15 07:34

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hawaii (Post 714973)
Newest release still doesn't populate all my Twitter contacts for some reason. Does it discard accounts without first and last names set or something similar?

Could you raise a bug report with specific steps to reproduce (if you think it's related to names being set); and specific Twitter accounts which are problematic. So; for example is it one of:
  1. Contact has no first and last name, Twitter user does, nickname matches Twitter ID but photo & Twitter URL are not updated.
    In so, does the Twitter account show up in the manual matching dialogue?
  2. Contact has first & last names, Twitter user does not; no automatic matching possible but Twitter account doesn't show up in the manual matching dialogue.

Thanks in advance.

Jaffa 2010-06-15 07:48

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 715367)
When will the N900 community escape its Twitter and Facebook biased development?

Not sure what this has to do with Hermes, as - as I've said - one of the reasons for the large gap between the last release and this one was a large scale refactoring to make it easier to add new services. LinkedIn and Gravatar have already been added. Plaxo will be next.

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Nearly a year from release, and nothing but multiple FB and Twitter clients, yet no MySpace, Tumblr, or Hi5 support.
As sjgadsby points out, only one of those - MySpace - has an enhancement request raised for it against Hermes.

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Tunnel vision has stymied N900 development more than anything. I wished I knew how to code. Most everyone else is too busy for anything not used in "Silly" Cone Valley.
It sounds like you think I'm wasting your time, by not doing what you want and that a) I can't see the obvious, b) I'm silly and c) I'm holding back the success of the N900. Thanks for that. I'll be sure to prioritise your feature requests now that I see the error of my ways ;-p

tlex26 2010-06-15 07:55

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GiGi. (Post 713475)
Is there any progress on hyves support for hermes?

I'm very anxious to see/get hyves support for hermes as well.
Already voted for https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6995

Keep up the good work and thnx for the work already done so far.
Hermes is a really good app.

hawaii 2010-06-15 13:24

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 715727)
Could you raise a bug report with specific steps to reproduce (if you think it's related to names being set); and specific Twitter accounts which are problematic. So; for example is it one of:
  1. Contact has no first and last name, Twitter user does, nickname matches Twitter ID but photo & Twitter URL are not updated.
    In so, does the Twitter account show up in the manual matching dialogue?
  2. Contact has first & last names, Twitter user does not; no automatic matching possible but Twitter account doesn't show up in the manual matching dialogue.

Thanks in advance.

Bug committed. Included as much info as I could, but I can't narrow down what the actual discrepancy for not showing the in the manual selection list.

xxxxts 2010-06-15 14:01

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
I think it would be a great idea if you when you update you have an option of not changing that persons picture with a click of the "refresh" button. Right now a lot of people are changing their Facebook main pictures to those of sports figures and such.

Reflektorfalke 2010-06-15 14:06

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 715740)
As sjgadsby points out, only one of those - MySpace - has an enhancement request raised for it against Hermes.

There is also a enhancement request for adding Xing support - https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8099

Jaffa 2010-06-15 14:43

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reflektorfalke (Post 716175)
There is also a enhancement request for adding Xing support - https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8099

And Google Contacts, but christexaport didn't mention these two ;-)

Jaffa 2010-06-15 14:44

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxxts (Post 716169)
I think it would be a great idea if you when you update you have an option of not changing that persons picture with a click of the "refresh" button. Right now a lot of people are changing their Facebook main pictures to those of sports figures and such.

Click "Retrieve" and nothing changes; only new stuff gets added. Having the option of "pin this picture" might be an idea off the "matched contacts" dialogue.

Reflektorfalke 2010-06-15 15:33

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 716214)
And Google Contacts, but christexaport didn't mention these two ;-)

I see I see, however, its great to see this wonderful app develop and supporting more data sources. Escpecially that Xing is still on your future feature list (hopefully ;-) ).

Two question though:
Is it possible to prioritize between data sources for updates?
E. g. can I choose wether the picture should be taken from Facebook or LinkedIn?

Do you plan to retrieve more contact details in the future?

Jaffa 2010-06-15 15:52

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reflektorfalke (Post 716261)
Is it possible to prioritize between data sources for updates?
E. g. can I choose wether the picture should be taken from Facebook or LinkedIn?

Not yet in the UI. Currently it's hardcoded in /opt/hermes/lib/main.py.

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Do you plan to retrieve more contact details in the future?
Aim to extract everything useful from a service. Photo (duh), URLs, birthday (where possible) and - soon - LinkedIn will give us the ability to pull phone numbers and email addresses. Plaxo will too, of course.

DaSilva 2010-06-15 18:03

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 716215)
Click "Retrieve" and nothing changes; only new stuff gets added. Having the option of "pin this picture" might be an idea off the "matched contacts" dialogue.

That would be a nice feature!

plaban 2010-06-15 18:14

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Please add Orkut support.I use orkut more than facebook

nosa101 2010-06-15 18:15

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by plaban (Post 716432)
Please add Orkut support.I use orkut more than facebook

I'm sure there is an enhancement request somewhere. It probably just needs votes

slaxe 2010-06-28 03:43

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
i do have a small issue, as i try to update, it just hanged at "creating contact" but for 1-2hours.. it just hanged there. i try searching in this topic.. but cant find anyone having this problem.

pankajsays 2010-06-28 04:16

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
those who need orkut support, vote for the bug/feature request at
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8224

I believe that is the fastest way. My vote is for orkut support.

Jaffa 2010-07-04 11:59

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
v0.8.3 is in Extras-devel now for those who want to really be on the alpha-bleeding edge.

New features
  • Add support for URLs and birthdays from LinkedIn.
  • Add support for phone numbers from services which support them, like LinkedIn. (This is a very cool feature, even if I do say so myself. An enhancement for creating contacts from LinkedIn is planned)

Bugs fixed:
  • Fixes the Twitter "list.remove(x)" bug encountered by some users.
  • Fixes the missing import for dealing with Twitter brokenness.

http://maemo.org/packages/view/hermes/

rariss 2010-07-04 12:52

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Hi,
Having a new problem with Hermes and Facebook.
Hermes no longer updates the picture for one of my contact even after retrieving and refreshing.

I tried the following:
deauthorized/reauthorized Hermes
deleted and re-added contact

Currently retrieving does not match this contact with corresponding facebook contact. In fact, when trying to manually match contact I cant even find that person on the facebook list of friends.

Any insight or help into this would be appreciated.
Thanks,

Jaffa 2010-07-04 12:55

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rariss (Post 740331)
Currently retrieving does not match this contact with corresponding facebook contact. In fact, when trying to manually match contact I cant even find that person on the facebook list of friends.

Can you raise a bug containing an exported vCard of the contact you want to match, and some details as to how their name appears in Facebook?

Thanks in advance.


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