Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

What is the diffrence between "retrieve" and "refresh" modes?

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

"Refresh" will overwrite existing pictures. "Retrieve" will not overwrite anything, ever.

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

Sounds kinda counter-intuitive: i was expecting it to be vice versa.

Appears that i get some contact duplicates after i "retrieved" with Hermes lately, though (my only data source is LinkedIn at the moment).
There is also slight possibility that i get some secondary phone numbers lost from contact info but i think it's rather MfE+neuvasync+google to blame.

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

Hi all,
I am also syncing with mfE ( nuevasync and google ) and hermes and lost most of my contacts !
can anybody know anything regarding a backup or restore procedure regarding hermes ?

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

Hermes will not create any additional contacts at the moment, except from Facebook if "Create birthday-only contacts" is enabled. There is an outstanding feature request ([url=https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10802]#10802[/ur]) which will allow the creation of contacts from LinkedIn; but that code doesn't yet exist.

That shouldn't be possible. If you can reproduce, please let me know. I don't sync Google Contacts, so wouldn't see it.

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

Hermes doesn't delete any contacts; so I'm not sure how your problem is related to Hermes.

The built-in Backup application can backup & restore contacts

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

thanks for your answer :D
but I can't find the backup built-in app ?
any idea
there is not so much buttons on this app :o

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

1. Go to your applications menu.
2. Find Backup.

If you use Catorise, it's under the System category.

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

mmmm
didn't do any backup before syncing using hermès ...
OMG so it's definitely dead for me :(

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

Can and does Hermes upload phone numbers and email addresses to Facebook? From the previous postings, I've learned that Hermes can't retrieve phone numbers and email addresses from Facebook but I haven't seen this question asked or answered.

I, for one, hope that Hermes can't and will never upload phone numbers and other contact info to Facebook.

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

Hermes doesn't send any information upstream. It's not a two-way sync, it's information enrichment: it only downloads.

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

Why do you think your problems are anything to do with Hermes? Can you please describe, in more detail, the setup you have; the actions you took and the effects you saw? Preferably quoting versions of various applications (including Hermes) and the configuration you're using.

Hermes doesn't sync. It only adds. Destroying contacts should be impossible, unless there are major latent bugs in Maemo's address book library.

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

well .... :
I sync my contacts using mfE and nuevasync to google contacts.
then I merged the contact that i saw twice with different names
finally I sync my contacts with hermès
from here i lost almost all of my contacts
still got their name for some parts but everytime i lost the phone number that I used to have before .

maybe i messed up something regarding google contacts and just saw it after hermès sync

so basically I don't think this issue is linked to hermès but to Google contacts and to my N900 configuration .

Next time I'll made a backup before doing everything :D

I just find out an old backup from may so most of my contacts are in it

I'll try again and come back if ay issue is detected

thanks again

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

I can't seem to get the birthday of my friends to appear on my N900. I'm pretty sure it they don't have their birthdays in private because I see it on screen. It can't even copy one. :) Any suggestions on how I can fix this problem? :)

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

Hermes 0.8.5 now in Extras-testing

New features from 0.8.2:

• #10801 - Add phone number, URLs and birthdays from LinkedIn.

Bug fixes from 0.8.2:

• #6879 - Scroll to position for closest matching contact, broken by find-as-you-type searching (reported by Peter Oliver)
• #7613 - Retrieve all Twitter followers, rather than first 100 only. Reported by Adam.
• Prevent overzealous matching on LinkedIn/Facebook based on any URL: causes problems with corporate websites in profiles.
• Handle cases of empty URLs & phone numbers attempting to be added (silently ignore).
• #10667 - Handle multiple Twitter matches causing a failure. Reported by Dawid Lorenz, hotzigetty and others.
• Improve Twitter error handling by adding missing import.

Hermes installation Problem.......
 

I am trying to install Hermes on my new Nokia N900 but had no luck for 5 days. Searched the web for a solution and ended up in this post.

Problem is that after preparing the installation and agreeing on the statement, the app manager gives the error.."Unable to install 'Hermes'. Some application packages required for the installation are missing". Details say that some python thing is missing.

I am new to this area of software and could you please show some light on this issue. Hermes seems a better application to keep my network tight so that I am really in need of this.

I found the packages herehttp://maemo.org/packages/view/hermes/ but am unclear about how to use them.

Thank you in advance....

Re: Hermes installation Problem.......
 

@lks0912: From what I understand you've just experienced really bad luck. There's a bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11031 that effects all python based applications, not just Hermes.
You can go to the bug and vote for it, to show that it's important to you that it gets fixed.

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

Would it be possible to make it "optional" to add the Facebook web page to a contact? Would it be possible to select profile pictures from the contacts and then exclude those from being update?
:D

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

any progress with plaxo and livejournal?

Re: Hermes installation Problem.......
 

Try this solution. Should help

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

Disclaimer: I'm not the maintainer of Hermes, I've just contributed with bugs and code.

The Facebook web page (address, URL) could be made optional. You can file a bug (feature request) here: https://bugs.maemo.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Hermes if you feel it's important. (Perhaps you could vote for https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6631 which looks similar.) Would you mind telling a little more about why you don't want the address being added to your contacts?
On subsequent updates, we use the address for faster and more reliably match contacts in address book to friends on Facebook. It's very useful if you have two friends with the same name (as I do).

Exclude updating certain contacts profile pictures? There's been som discussion about this. I myself for instance would like to only update profile pictures set by Hermes in the first place. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5452 is a bug gone off topic, but if you feel this would be enough for you, please vote. I'm note sure it's feasable to actually cherry pick what contacts should be excluded from being updated at the moment.

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

I've made some initial runs with Plaxo and it works fine. Haven't had time between work and kids to clean up the code and submit a patch though.
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6991 - the request for Plaxo

I'm not sure if anyone's looking at LiveJournal.
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6992 - the request for LiveJournal

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

Thank you for clearing up a few things. I was asking about the facebook address since I have a lot of net pages assigned to a some contacts already. I agree the contact pictures might be a rather problematic. It will work fine if you have a few contacts but it could get rather heavy when you have more. What about the option to inform that the following profile pics have been updated, would you like to update some selected or all? Some people changes it so often its hard to keep up.

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

I feel your pain (or a similar one at least - I have 670 contacts in my address book, about half of them are also on facebook), and I really don't need to see people with their new pet, fun sign or whatever, which is why I want to prioritize Gravatar and LinkedIn over Facebook - but I just read that someone else requested the reverse order, so this really is a matter of taste.
Yes, I guess it'd be possible to add new steps and/or options in the "after automatic matching" process is done. I'm not a fan of the way it works now. It's practically impossible to get things right now for me when I need to scroll the list of contacts and then point out the matching friend. But that's perhaps another issue.

Idea: add a button in the "after" step called "new photos" which would show a grid of all contacts which have a (new) photo, select the ones to include (or exclude). That might work (even when you have 300+ "friends" to go through). The question is how often you'll be happy doing just that ...

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

Interesting idea. If we're going to overhaul the UI (backend's done, UI must be next ;-)), it might be worth moving to Qt so that a transition to MeeGo (hell, with Qt Mobility it should even work now) is easier.

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

Two more thoughts on the "idea": Start with two tabs: "included" and "excluded". All photos appear on the included tab, one big grid which is what you see at first. Provide a "remove all button" (perhaps in the menu?) which moves all photos to the "excluded" tab.
When you click on a photo on the "included" tab, that photo is moved to the "excluded" tab, and vice versa. I think that'd actually be kind of OK to work with. (There should also be a Done button, and it might be a good thing to put it in the menu/toolbar.)

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

I hope this goes to the right thread, since I couldn't find any relevant one. Anyways.

I like the idea. I do have friends on Facebook, that I also have on my phone and it is easier to update those infos for them from Facebook, if I just press "update". However, I'm not quite satisfied with this functionality.

Once I pressed update surely I did get the updates to my existing contacts? Nope. Those new updates were added to my list as new contacts, which really did surprise (and frustrate) me. Thankfully it was only 14 contacts (and I have Merge Contacts installed). However, I'm now hesitating to do the update again, since I'd have to (most likely) re-assign the names, again.

I'm not sure where this comes from but I'm assuming it's related to the way I display my contacts? I've chosen Surname, Firstname while Hermes automatically uses Firstname Surname. So in future versions (I'm not updating this from Extras-Devel/-Testing, not willing to risk my contacts getting messed up via update, no offence [and yet I'm using Merge Contacts from Extras-Testing...]) I'd like to see at least an option to add those new updates to already existing contacts, instead of creating completely new ones.

I'd also like to see a list where to choose from whom I'd like to get to my phone. Yes, I'm talking about a checking-list. I don't really see any idea on importing friends to my phone, if I don't have their number to call them. Sure, I can use the Facebook-chat but that's pretty much it (and e-mail, if they've provided one).

Other than that I have no complains about Hermes (though I think my feedback just trashed it, eh?). I hope you keep up the good work and we'll see even better version of it in future. :)

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

Is it possible to de-associate a contact from its facebook data?

Because I associated a contact by mistake, now every time I hit retrieve, I have to manually remove the added data on that contact.

:/

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

Kind of - you can remove the association of "contact" (in your phone) to the "friend" (on the social network). There's no way to undo any changes applied to your contact once you've exited Hermes: if information got added to the contact that you didn't want, you'll have to remove that your self (or load a backup if you have one).

To remove the association, open the address/phone book, find the contact and click the photo to start edit the details. At the bottom there should be "web link" looking like http://www.facebook.com/....... - you basically remove that contact field and the association is gone. :)

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

Oh right, I forgot. It seems to be also so, that Hermes does not import contacts birthday.

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

Tried that; when I retrieve again, data gets re-fetched.

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

*doh* :P What you can do until (if ever) we add some way to "block" auto-associating a contact and friend is to change the URL of the contact. There's typically a part of the URL that looks like ?id=0000123456789 - if you change that number, it won't match any of your friends and therefor not get updated. (Just make sure it's not the ID of a "real" friend - change it to ?id=BLOCKED0000123456789 and you'll be safe.)

It'd be great if you could take the time to file a bug report and ask for a feature where we "block" auto-association for a certain contact. If you'd like to, go here: https://bugs.maemo.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Hermes

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

Hi. Sorry to hear about your bad experience.

As you wrote yourself, there's an option to not add "birthday only" friends. That should solve one of your issues (I counted to three, and this would perhaps at least partially solve the check list request?)

The Surname, Firstname sounds interesting though - if you and your friend(s) don't mind, please provide an example of a name that should've matched, but didn't so we can reproduce that.

And, if you've merged the new duplicate contacts with the real ones, then Hermes should recognize that the next time you update/refresh and associate the merged (real) contact with the friend on Facebook (as long as you didn't remove the web page/link/URL from the merged contact).
(If somehow it doesn't work this way - because it should - please write here again and we'll find and fix the bug.)

Hope this helps to relieve some of your pain! :)

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

Where is this? I couldn't find it from Hermes.

Well, it's a bit too late now, sorry. :( I already fixed my contacts but basically I did it like this (by the way, see bug #10721):

1. Set the contacts in Surname, Firstname order.
2. Launch Hermes.
3. Press Refresh.
4. You'll get contacts imported (after verification, if not already verified to Facebook).
5. Hermes creates new contacts, that are in Firstname Surname order and as new contacts, instead of assigned Surname, Firstname to already existing contacts.
   
   And as a sidenote, Hermes also automatically imports avatars from Facebook-users to the already existing and the new ones, without asking.

This worked fine, Hermes did not separate the already fixed contacts, since I did the Refresh again.

Thanks for the help though. I've already reported a bug to the Bugzilla regarding the birthday, see bug #11103.

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

Menu > Accounts > Facebook, or here (testing youtube and xvidcap): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTR0iOMSPiI

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

Ah it's there. I thought Accounts is my accounts, since that setting (importing) would normally be under Options. Thanks for that.

And, as I said in the filed bug, the birthdays don't get imported. I get their name (alias in this case, since very few of my friends use the "name yourself what you want"-option aka real name [e.g. facebook.com/my.name]), I just get the end of the persons URL and that's it. Even the persons, who do show up their birthdays as it's fullest, do not get those imported.

Odd.

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

Hi Guys!
Is there a chance that you will add support for www.xing.com to Hermes in the near future? https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8099

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

Hey guys.
I just recently used Hermes and it works great :) I have all my contacts updated with photos from facebook. I was just wondering why Hermes isnt updating my contacts/calendar with birthdays? Id really like to sync my phone with my facebook calendar. Help! Thanks in advance.

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

I'd like to try Plaxo sync!

Re: Hermes Thread: questions, suggestions regarding Facebook, Twitter, etc. contact synchronization
 

See bug #11103. You can though try and create Birthday-only contacts from Hermes, it's explained in the bug. I won't bother testing that anymore though, since I'd have to delete contact and assume, that Hermes re-imports him/her to the list.