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ceroberts75 2009-10-26 02:38
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
expansys is a good company, and if you are in the USA, then you may not know that DHL is a normal, large UPS-like carrier through out the rest of the world. so that is fine.
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DaKing 2009-10-26 02:51
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
thanks for the reply so as you are saying that they will ship it to me in lebanon ? but i dont understand how they ship it from UK to lebanon and sell it 85$ less then if they sell it in UK and it is UK version :O :O :O

zdux0012 2009-10-26 03:20
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 357939)
what site did you pre-order from?
nokiausa.com

zdux0012 2009-10-26 03:22
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hypnotik (Post 357941)
where did you order from? Is it an actual charge v. authorization hold?
It's not a hold, but I'll double check tomorrow

RevdKathy 2009-10-26 07:49
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
That is very interesting. Amazon UK switched release from Oct 26th to Nov 2nd about a fortnight ago, but they have not updated since. I begin to wonder whether they might have known something the rest of us didn't.

But mostly that's me trying to stave off the cravings...

Quindor 2009-10-26 09:37
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
The dutch nokia site still mentions the end of October.

But a different question. Am I the only one who thinks that the statement made by the head of Maemo marketing (Peter Schneider) is no official statement at all? Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE has copied this information from a single post where it was casually mentioned.

There was no official press statement or anything like that. I personally still believe that it will be deliverd end of October or beginning of November, still, could be naieve for that, but so be it.

At the end of the day, no one really knows. :p I just find it strange that the news was adapoted that quickly. Why not believe a store employee when he says 4th of November? They both probably know just as much. ;)

Anyway, awaiting the device anxiously, but just wondering if anyone else gave this some thought.

nicolai 2009-10-26 09:42
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
The german nokia site says
expected delivery date 25. November.

The_Solutor 2009-10-26 10:14
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 358045)
That is very interesting. Amazon UK switched release from Oct 26th to Nov 2nd about a fortnight ago, but they have not updated since. I begin to wonder whether they might have known something the rest of us didn't.
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Amazon.uk has switched the date to Nov 2nd a couple of weeks ago.

Aron 2009-10-26 11:53
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
According to Swedish nokia and a reseller (katshing.se) will the n900 be delayed to the end of 09 in sweden, seems like something is very wrong :mad:

abb_eliten 2009-10-26 12:14
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aron (Post 358134)
According to Swedish nokia and a reseller (katshing.se) will the n900 be delayed to the end of 09 in sweden, seems like something is very wrong :mad:
I got a mail from katshing stating the phone wouldn't start shipping to Sweden until late January 2010 :(

I don't know what to believe anymore :confused:

Rushmore 2009-10-26 12:30
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Nokia has been quoted as saying "November", so I would expect the different later dates some are seeing are pushback dates based on not wanting their systems to keep reporting the product as backordered and past due- This reduces the amount of system data churn the product goes through within their logistics system.

R-R 2009-10-26 14:35
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aron (Post 358134)
According to Swedish nokia and a reseller (katshing.se) will the n900 be delayed to the end of 09 in sweden, seems like something is very wrong :mad:
links please?

Toivosan 2009-10-26 14:48
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by R-R (Post 358259)
links please?
i got this mail few hours ago:

Hej Peter,

Du har förhandsbokat en Nokia N900 hos oss på Katshing. Tyvärr har vi nu fått reda på att N900 inte kommer att komma till den svenska marknaden under 2009. Gissningsvis kommer den i slutet av januari 2010, men det är inget som är bekräftat. Den mobil som ligger allra närmast, och som nu finns i lager, är Nokia N97.

Skillnaden mellan dessa bägge mobiler är:
N900 är Linuxbaserad vilken N97 inte är. N900 har även en aningen större skärm än N97. Däremot är N97 lättare och lite tunnare i formatet. Läs mer om N97

Om du känner att du vill skifta produkt, hör gärna av dig direkt till mig på 0346-57011 eller på kundtjanst@katshing.se. Väljer du just N97, som är lite dyrare än N900, så sänker vi priset till samma nivå som N900.

/Emelie Andersson - Kundtjänst

----------------------------------------

They got that from Nokia that N900 dont coming 2009, and it will come late Januari 2010, and that not promissed from Nokia.

ralphb 2009-10-26 15:16
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
The Register are today quoting Nokia's Head of Maemo Marketing as saying:
Quote:
We expect it to start shipping during November 2009.

Alex Atkin UK 2009-10-26 15:32
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ralphb (Post 358277)
The Register are today quoting Nokia's Head of Maemo Marketing as saying:
Which is clearly a copy/paste from this forum.

ralphb 2009-10-26 15:41
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Atkin UK (Post 358282)
Which is clearly a copy/paste from this forum.
The Internet is eating itself! :eek:

Aron 2009-10-26 17:30
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by R-R (Post 358259)
links please?
toivosan publicized the mail from katshing and the information from nokia came from a person, at swedish forum, who called nokia.

att 2009-10-26 17:33
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aron (Post 358134)
According to Swedish nokia and a reseller (katshing.se) will the n900 be delayed to the end of 09 in sweden, seems like something is very wrong :mad:
Probably something to do with this:

3 Mobile SIM card rejected
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5315

Nokia is targeting a fix for the end of December. Maybe N900 is delayed in Sweden due this?

hypnotik 2009-10-26 17:41
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by att (Post 358370)
Probably something to do with this:

3 Mobile SIM card rejected
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5315

Nokia is targeting a fix for the end of December. Maybe N900 is delayed in Sweden due this?
Hopefully it's just a firmware update, or will they have to update the baseband? If so that could push back availability considerably. Yikes

zdux0012 2009-10-26 18:55
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hypnotik (Post 358380)
Hopefully it's just a firmware update, or will they have to update the baseband? If so that could push back availability considerably. Yikes
Actually looking at these Other significant bugs I don't see how they can release it.

abb_eliten 2009-10-26 19:09
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by att (Post 358370)
Probably something to do with this:

3 Mobile SIM card rejected
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5315

Nokia is targeting a fix for the end of December. Maybe N900 is delayed in Sweden due this?
didn't 3 UK's SIM cards also suffer from this bug?
if that's so, it shouldn't just be delayed in sweden...

anyone heard something from UK retailers?

RevdKathy 2009-10-26 19:12
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
I must be a bear of very little brain: I can only see 4 out of the 25 that have critical relevance to the n900. 9 are for linux desktop, 5 relate to this website, and the rest are related to certain apps, developer tools or app systems (like Qt).

The n900 ones are the known issue with 3 sim cards, and some instability about alarms, along with 2 email issues.

Or am I even more stupid than even I thought?

GunnerzMate 2009-10-26 19:14
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
"Actually looking at these Other significant bugs I don't see how they can release it. "

I'd say most of them will be fixed in release device and the others are all fixable through software upgrades...i hope. This is one the things that make me want to buy this phone - although new bugs WILL appear, I'm sure they'll all be fixable.

Right?!

bugelrex 2009-10-26 19:21
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GunnerzMate (Post 358465)
"Actually looking at these Other significant bugs I don't see how they can release it. "

I'd say most of them will be fixed in release device and the others are all fixable through software upgrades...i hope. This is one the things that make me want to buy this phone - although new bugs WILL appear, I'm sure they'll all be fixable.

Right?!
Check out this article on how Nokia have been handling firmware updates. They've been doing a horrible job, how different will this be for n900?

http://www.nokiausers.net/General/No...e-Updates.html

theflew 2009-10-26 19:28
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zdux0012 (Post 358455)
Actually looking at these Other significant bugs I don't see how they can release it.
I think your query to search for defects was a little too robust. Some of the one's in your list were against the N810.

Here is a more accurate list, pretty small for the N900.

theflew 2009-10-26 19:37
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bugelrex (Post 358472)
Check out this article on how Nokia have been handling firmware updates. They've been doing a horrible job, how different will this be for n900?

http://www.nokiausers.net/General/No...e-Updates.html
The difference is this in Linux. Nokia doesn't have to work on the whole OS like Symbian. Upstream Debian and the other open source projects used can do a lot of the dirty work for Nokia as far as updates are concerned. Nokia just needs to push the updates.

olighak 2009-10-26 19:38
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zdux0012 (Post 358455)
Actually looking at these Other significant bugs I don't see how they can release it.
As has been pointed out some of those are for other devices and other versions of Maemo. But that aside most of those bugs reported look pretty benign to me.

There are no bugs reporting brickdowm caused by sending text messages. Contacts disappearing, eternal buzz in the speakerphone of the phone or screen flickering/freezing.

The most serious I see is the unsynced audio and video in the video recording mode. And that's bound to be fixable by a software fix.

bugelrex 2009-10-26 19:48
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theflew (Post 358485)
The difference is this in Linux. Nokia doesn't have to work on the whole OS like Symbian. Upstream Debian and the other open source projects used can do a lot of the dirty work for Nokia as far as updates are concerned. Nokia just needs to push the updates.
Just curious, how many developers are committed to Maemo, not the apps but the O/S and essential services? Its hard to see who simply have accounts v.s those that are committed to coding.

On a PC, if I feel the open source community is not keeping up, I can simply buy Windows. However once I've purchased this 600 dollar phone, I'm stuck with the generosity of the community who could be busy with their day jobs during the "great recession"

sharper 2009-10-26 19:56
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bugelrex (Post 358494)
On a PC, if I feel the open source community is not keeping up, I can simply buy Windows. However once I've purchased this 600 dollar phone, I'm stuck with the generosity of the community who could be busy with their day jobs during the "great recession"
The vast majority of Linux kernel developers are paid. Most of the larger OSS projects are dominated by developers working for someone, not hobbyists.

rewt 2009-10-26 20:23
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
On the phone with Nokia USA right now. They canceled my pre-order, supposedly due to implementing a new ordering system. They seem to not want to honor the offer for free bluetooth headset and reduced extended warranty cost. They are offering a 10% discount, though.

Update: They are escalating the issue to "upper management" to see about extending the promo offer that has since ended. They also confirmed an estimated release date of mid-November.

Update 2: Thread started here to discuss cancellations, etc.

GunnerzMate 2009-10-26 20:30
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Mid-November applies for the UK too, right?

JD2010 2009-10-26 20:38
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Got the same message from Nokia USA latest november 15

sjgadsby 2009-10-26 20:41
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theflew (Post 358477)
Here is a more accurate list, pretty small for the N900.
You're still pulling in bugs in 3rd party applications. I'd go with a slightly different search. Even that's a bit wide as it's pulling in "major", not just "critical" and "blocker".

pr0xyfl00d3r 2009-10-26 21:23
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Play.com states 20/11/09 :-( so bout 4 weeks

zdux0012 2009-10-27 06:56
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by olighak (Post 358486)
The most serious I see is the unsynced audio and video in the video recording mode. And that's bound to be fixable by a software fix.
Oh goody! just a software fix! :p All of these items are just a software fix, and knowing that doesn't change a thing.


Speaking as a programmer,
This bug, the sim card bug, and the rotation during hang up bug would be enough for me to delay the release.

I would prefer to delay than to release a small bug like this could cause a Windows 7 party like disaster. Delay just makes us want it more.

As a programmer I'm more than happy to wait. As a consumer, I'm about to go nuts.

zdux0012 2009-10-27 15:58
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nokia
Dear Peter,
In the crowded marketplace of cell phones and cellular-related products, it is crucial to have a savvy, well-seasoned team strategizing, coordinating, and implementing hardware that the customer desires. All of our cellular phones are built on the same foundation: innovative technology; meticulous attention to detail; and creative networking abilities across the internet. Nokia strives to create and implement innovative solutions, to be a leading resource for professional and public services.

Here at Nokia quality matters. We realize your cell phone is one of your biggest long term investments in today's economy. Customer service and satisfaction is number one. We pride ourselves on customer satisfaction and a higher level of quality. Quality is of upmost importance at Nokia. Each hardware circuit is tested at least twice, once in production and again in Quality Control. You see at Nokia we hold ourselves to a higher standard that doesn't allow us to just simply get by, just getting by does not meet our standards.

I understand that you are anxious to get the new n900 model. We are just as anxious to release it. We believe that n900 is going to set a new trend in expectations among the mobile users community. The n900 isn't just the latest and greatest cellular phone; it is going to be a revolution in breaking the standard mold. Simply put the n900 allows its users a level of freedom not yet seen in cellular phones today.

The n900 will be released with a variety of new applications and games. I am proud to announce that the n900 will be released with the following pre-loaded games: Duke Nukem Forever, Tetris 2012, and The Smurfs vs. Mortal Kombat.

In response to your query about our shipping date. We have misplaced the phones. Please, quit pestering me about it I don't know where it is. And as far as I'm concerned if it wasn't for Nokia and people like me you wouldn't have any damn phones. Our best guestimate at this point would be sometime late 2012.



__________

Alex Atkin UK 2009-10-27 16:24
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Was that supposed to be funny?

rewt 2009-10-27 16:39
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Probably.. there's no useful/new/valid information left to post.

Anwarboy11 2009-10-27 17:23
New release date 16th Nov!
 
I have received an email from MPD saying the following....

" Hi,

Delivery of Nokia N900 stock into our Nokia stores has unfortunately been delayed by two weeks to w/c 16th November. The delivery when it arrives will be the first N900 stock in the UK and orders will be dispatched on a first ordered, first serve, basis directly from our Nokia stores. For those of you that have already pre-ordered and are expecting dispatch on the 30th October as previously advertised, please accept our sincere apologies and be assured that you are top of the dispatch list for a new Nokia N900. We have already seen working samples of the N900 and can assure you that it does exist and it will be very much worth the wait!"

This also matchs with the "mid november" statement from nokia.
So i suppose the 16th is the date to look forward to.

:)

r0eladn 2009-10-27 17:25
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
i say fraud. impersonating as a nokia employee.


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