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Laughing Man 2009-11-20 15:40

Re: Nokia sues Apple for infringement of Nokia GSM, UMTS and WLAN patents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eiffel (Post 384072)
Leverage for patent cross-licensing so that Nokia can use multi-touch in Maemo 6, presumably.

Regards,
Roger

Eh, Apple's multi-touch patent is so questionable that any company that can afford a litigation battle can blow it away (Google, Microsoft, Nokia, RIM, etc..) if it came down to it.

Texrat 2009-11-20 15:50

Re: Nokia sues Apple for infringement of Nokia GSM, UMTS and WLAN patents
 
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Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 384093)
Apple uses its manufacturer as middleman (Foxconn). Foxconn pays the license fee to Qualcomm using the price it uses to charge Apple. Apple then buys iPhone from Foxconn and sells it at full price.

Nokia did the same while it was warring with Qualcomm over royalties. ;)

Rauha 2009-11-20 15:54

Re: Nokia sues Apple for infringement of Nokia GSM, UMTS and WLAN patents
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 384112)
Nokia did the same while it was warring with Qualcomm over royalties. ;)

DId Nokia patent that idea? Cause for next court case. :rolleyes:

Method for avoiding Qualcomm license fees.
U.S. Patent 5960411

eiffel 2009-11-20 16:52

Re: Nokia sues Apple for infringement of Nokia GSM, UMTS and WLAN patents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 384101)
Eh, Apple's multi-touch patent is so questionable that any company that can afford a litigation battle can blow it away

Hey, this is Nokia who would probably have paid royalties for Ogg if they could have found a way to do so.

MountainX 2009-11-20 17:08

Re: Nokia sues Apple for infringement of Nokia GSM, UMTS and WLAN patents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 384119)
DId Nokia patent that idea? Cause for next court case. :rolleyes:

Method for avoiding Qualcomm license fees.
U.S. Patent 5960411

FYI, ideas are not patentable (at least under US law).

Laughing Man 2009-11-20 17:11

Re: Nokia sues Apple for infringement of Nokia GSM, UMTS and WLAN patents
 
Though for a while it looked like ideas would be patentable.

Rauha 2009-11-20 20:08

Re: Nokia sues Apple for infringement of Nokia GSM, UMTS and WLAN patents
 
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Originally Posted by MountainX (Post 384223)
FYI, ideas are not patentable (at least under US law).

Yes.

Well I wasn't 100% or even 1% serious when I posted that.

wierdo 2009-11-22 05:55

Re: Nokia sues Apple for infringement of Nokia GSM, UMTS and WLAN patents
 
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Originally Posted by MountainX (Post 384223)
FYI, ideas are not patentable (at least under US law).

They are if you can figure out a way to call it a "business method." :mad:

MountainX 2009-11-22 06:01

Re: Nokia sues Apple for infringement of Nokia GSM, UMTS and WLAN patents
 
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Originally Posted by wierdo (Post 385840)
They are if you can figure out a way to call it a "business method." :mad:

What's the latest on those? Last I heard, business method patents were going to be invalidated (or no longer issued... or something like that).

wierdo 2009-11-22 06:21

Re: Nokia sues Apple for infringement of Nokia GSM, UMTS and WLAN patents
 
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Originally Posted by MountainX (Post 385842)
What's the latest on those? Last I heard, business method patents were going to be invalidated (or no longer issued... or something like that).

At the present time, some business method patents are valid. We'll know for sure whenever the Supreme Court gets around to releasing its opinion on Bilski.


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