Apple countersues Nokia
 

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2009...ountersue.html

Wonder what those patents are..

Re: Apple countersues Nokia
 

Haha, as a blog recently put it (in an article about Microsoft).

Live by the patent sword, die by the patent sword

Re: Apple countersues Nokia
 

Funnily enough despite claiming 13 patents infringed they haven't stated which ones!

Maybe this Chinese iPhone Looks Poised to Fail has something to do with it?

Re: Nokia sues Apple for infringement of Nokia GSM, UMTS and WLAN patents
 

So the battle continues.


Apple counter sues Nokia over 13 Patents

Re: Nokia sues Apple for infringement of Nokia GSM, UMTS and WLAN patents
 

Apple's official response to Nokia complanit and countersue papers : Link (PDF)

Re: Nokia sues Apple for infringement of Nokia GSM, UMTS and WLAN patents
 

Seems to be mainly 'We dont know enough to determine that' along with moaning that they are using standards so why should they have to pay.

Re: Nokia sues Apple for infringement of Nokia GSM, UMTS and WLAN patents
 

Well this is all going according to script.

Re: Nokia sues Apple for infringement of Nokia GSM, UMTS and WLAN patents
 

Stuff I've picked up so far, Apple claims that:

-Nokia and Apple have been negoating about these licenses since 2007. Apparently negoations only involdeved Apple paying for royalties in cash.

-Around spring 2008 Nokia started including demands for cross licensing in negoatiations.

-Around spring 2009 Nokia dropped most of cross licensing demands and tripled the monetary price of patents.

-September 2009, little before Nokia took legal route, Nokia offered licensing at same rates as in 2007.

-Apple claims that offers 2007-2009 were against FRAND principles.


Nokia has too many essential patents and doesn't honour FRAND, so Apple claims that Nokia practices are anti-competive. The Apple patents Nokia was asking in crosslicensing (2008-2009) were not part of any official standard so Apple had no legal obligation to license those to Nokia.


-Apple is asking judgement on validity of all 10 Nokia patents.

Still reading...

Re: Nokia sues Apple for infringement of Nokia GSM, UMTS and WLAN patents
 

List of all Apple's patents that Nokia is supposedly infringing:

* No. 5,634,074 : Serial I/O device identifies itself to a computer through a serial interface during power on reset then it is being configured by the computer
* No. 6,343,263 B1 : Real-time signal processing system for serially transmitted data
* No. 5,915,131 : Method and apparatus for handling I/O requests utilizing separate programming interfaces to access separate I/O services
* No. 5,555,369: Method of creating packages for a pointer-based computer system
* No. 6,239,795 B1: Pattern and color abstraction in a graphical user interface
* No. 5,315,703: Object-oriented notification framework system
* No. 6,189,034 B1: Method and apparatus for dynamic launching of a teleconferencing application upon receipt of a call
* No. 7,469,381, B2: List scrolling and document translation, scaling, and rotation on a touch-screen display
* No. RE 39, 486 E: Extensible, replaceable network component system
* No. 5,455,854: Object-oriented telephony system
* No. 7,383,453 B2: Conserving power by reducing voltage supplied to an instruction-processing portion of a processor
* No. 5,848,105: GMSK signal processors for improved communications capacity and quality
* No. 5, 379,431: Boot framework architecture for dynamic staged initial program load


These are dated between 1993-2007. Most are general computing device patents. Couple seem to be originally Apple Newton related patents, that could predate some of Nokia's PDA/smartphone-like patents. There's also one about object oriented telephony control from 1993 that might be relevant. (AFIT) Patent 7,469,381 is the only "iPhone-patent" involved.

Apple points out that Nokia studied Apple's portfolio during the negoations and should have known that it was breaching Apple IP. Interestingly in most cases Apple mentions Symbian platform as culprit, in few cases also S40....but Maemo also, allegedly, infringing patent number 5,848,105. N900 is even mentioned in this paragraph.

So, guys and gals, your N900 is using "A method and apparatus for separating and removing distortion from interfering co-channel signals and suppressing adjacent-channel interfering signals of the Gaussian Minimum-Shift Keyed (GMSK) or other MSK type with filtering structures that exploit the cyclostationarity of the received GMSK or other MSK signals in order to accommodate a greater number (or the same number, but with greater quality) of transmitted signals received by one or more antennas than can be accommodated by existing filters. The parameters in these filtering structures are adapted by either of two adaptation apparatus that exploit both the known training sequence that is transmitted in most wireless communications systems, and the constant modulus property exhibited by each of the transmitted GMSK or other MSK signals. " without Apple's permission.


Apple's legal must have been on the first to get N900 in USA, in order for it to make appearance in these papers.:D;)

Re: Nokia sues Apple for infringement of Nokia GSM, UMTS and WLAN patents
 

US Patent No. 5,634,074 Serial I/O Device Identifies Itself to a Computer Through a serial interface during power on reset then it is being configured by computer

No. 6,343,263 Real-Time Signal processing system for serially transmitted data

No. 5,915,131 Method and apparatus for handling I/O requests utilizing separate programming interfaces to access separate I/O services

No. 5,555,369 Method of creating packages for a pointer-based computer system.

No. 6,239,795 Pattern and color abstraction in a graphical user interface (N900 is supposed toinfringe this)

No. 5,315,703 Object-Oriented notification framework system

No. 6,189,034 Method and apparatus for dynamic launching of a teleconferencing application upon receipt of a call

No. 7,469,381 List scrolling and document translation, scaling, and rotation on a touch-screen display. (concerns N900)

No. RE 39,486 E Extensible, replaceable network component system

No. 5,455,854 Object-Oriented telephony system

No. 7,383,453 Conserving power by reducing voltage supplied to an instruction-processing portion of a processor. (concerns N900)

No. 5,848,105 GMSK Signal processors for improved communications capability and quality. (concerns N900)

No. 5,379,431 Boot framework architecture for dynamic staged initial program load.


source: http://stadium.weblogsinc.com/engadg...kia-answer.pdf page 61 onwards

Edit: Too slow, Rauha beat me to it.