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c0rt3x 2009-10-30 18:16

Q309 global phone marketshare figures out: SE eclipses Motorola
 
***To be graphically updated***

Global Handset Shipments [millions of units]:

Quarter..............................Q3 '08......Q4 '08......2008........Q1'09.....Q2 '09.......Q3 '09
Nokia................................. 117.8.......113.1.......468.4.......93.2........103.2........108.5
Samsung............................51.8.........52.8.........196.6.......45.8........52.3..........60.2
LG Electronics....................23.0.........25.7.........100.8.......22.6........29.8..........31.6
Sony Ericsson....................25.7.........24.2.........96.6.........14.5........13.8..........14.1
Motorola.............................25.4.........19.2.........100.1.......14.7........14.8..........13.6
Others................................60.1.........58.8.........214.8.......53.7........58.9..........62.5
Total...................................303.8.......293.8.......1177.3.....244.5......272.8........290.5

Total Growth (YoY).............5.7%........-10.7%.....4.9%........-13.7%....-8.2%.......-4.4%


Global Handset Vendor Marketshare [%]:

Quarter..............................Q3 '08......Q4 '08.......2008........Q1'09.......Q2 '09........Q3 '09
Nokia.................................38.8%.......38.5%.......39.8%.......38.1%........37.8%........37.3%
Samsung...........................17.1%......18.0%........16.7%.......18.7%........19.2%........20.7%
LG Electronics...................7.6%.........8.7%.........8.6%.........9.2%.........10.9%........10.9%
Sony Ericsson...................8.5%..........8.2%.........8.2%.........5.9%........5.1%..........4.9%
Motorola............................8.4%..........6.5%.........8.5%.........6.0%........5.4%..........4.7%
Others...............................19.8%.......20.0%........18.2%.......22.0%.......21.6%........21.5%
Total..................................100.0%....100.0%......100.0%.....100.0%.....100.0%......100.0%


Key highlights:

- SE eclipses Motorola by volume, Motorola is now the fifth largest manufactuer by volume
- Motorola is below the 5% mark for a very long time
- Samsung is above the 20% mark for the first time
- Nokia still remains as a distant first, but Samsung is catching up
- LG is steadily increasing their shares, being on a distant third place
- SE and Motorola are in a deep decline
- Apple is no longer on the rise, the fad is over!


Source (it's a bit messed up right now):
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/...etshare_fi.php

mikec 2009-10-30 18:31

Re: Q309 global phone marketshare figures out: SE eclipses Motorola
 
Surprised by the Motorola numbers higher than I expected, will be interesting to see how the droid numbers affect this come Q4

Mike C

c0rt3x 2009-10-30 18:59

Re: Q309 global phone marketshare figures out: SE eclipses Motorola
 
Edit: The new table is a major improvement, and I've added a "key highlights" section.

drm 2009-10-30 19:41

Re: Q309 global phone marketshare figures out: SE eclipses Motorola
 
When we look at the touch phones that nokia has release until now and compare them with the ones that samsum has release it’s easy to understand why nokia it’s going down and Samsung up.
Nokia should open the eyes and start to put release things faster. Another thing, Nokia should put turn by turn navigation free, like google to squeeze apple while it can.
You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to understand this.

c0rt3x 2009-10-30 20:16

Re: Q309 global phone marketshare figures out: SE eclipses Motorola
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drm (Post 361893)
When we look at the touch phones that nokia has release until now and compare them with the ones that samsum has release it’s easy to understand why nokia it’s going down and Samsung up.
Nokia should open the eyes and start to put release things faster. Another thing, Nokia should put turn by turn navigation free, like google to squeeze apple while it can.
You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to understand this.

How would Nokia be able to afford that? Google sells the data where you are, while Nokia doesn't, and money doesn't rain! We have a problem here...

mikec 2009-10-30 20:27

Re: Q309 global phone marketshare figures out: SE eclipses Motorola
 
Hehe I can see Comes With Maps or maybe a "Your Local Spot -ify" as the next set of services.

Mike C

tissot 2009-10-30 20:46

Re: Q309 global phone marketshare figures out: SE eclipses Motorola
 
Nothing surprising other than maybe Moto doing as good as it is. I actually think SE might be doing ok in the high end with Rachel and it's portfolio seems okish again since a long time.

Nokia is middle of transition with Symbian and Maemo(and late to the game). Lots of things happening there as Symbian goes more to mid end that has been happening for some time already and most of all Symbian Foundation OS kicks in(still the big changes are yet to be seen and will happen in Symbian^4).
And no need to commentate about Maemo :)

Interesting news that we might see most probally a Symbian^2 device with snapdragon in a near future. Didn't know that Qualcomm was nowadays part of Symbian Foundation.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/n...apdragon-ahoy/

Gives some hope to see killer phone coming from Symbian side since long time ago.

c0rt3x 2009-10-30 21:01

Re: Q309 global phone marketshare figures out: SE eclipses Motorola
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 361947)
Nothing surprising other than maybe Moto doing as good as it is. I actually think SE might be doing ok in the high end with Rachel and it's portfolio seems okish again since a long time.

Nokia is middle of transition with Symbian and Maemo(and late to the game). Lots of things happening there as Symbian goes more to mid end that has been happening for some time already and most of all Symbian Foundation OS kicks in(still the big changes are yet to be seen and will happen in Symbian^4).
And no need to commentate about Maemo :)

Interesting news that we mightsee most probally a Symbian^3 device with snapdragon in a near future. Didn't know that Qualcomm was nowadays part of Symbian Foundation.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/n...apdragon-ahoy/

Gives some hope to see killer phone coming from Symbian side since long time ago.

There's no point of having hardware acceleration for Symbian^2, I'll tell you why: the UI will basicly be the same as S60v5. The reason why S60 is critized this much is simply because accelerated hardware isn't required, but thing will change...

Nokia has planned to reintroduce GPU:s for Symbian Foundation's second iteration (Symbian^3), because this version of the significantly improved OS will enable new graphical behaviour for the new UI, and thus the need of a GPU. By then, GPU:s will most likely be standard, and we might finally see some good commercial games for Symbian.

Symbian^4 will introduce Qt 4.6 (as you most likely already know), which will simplify cross-platform development. Then, and only then, the Maemo-Symbian combo might attract the average developer.


At least that's how "the great plan" looks like today. ;)

tissot 2009-10-31 00:17

Re: Q309 global phone marketshare figures out: SE eclipses Motorola
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by c0rt3x (Post 361967)
There's no point of having hardware acceleration for Symbian^2, I'll tell you why: the UI will basicly be the same as S60v5. The reason why S60 is critized this much is simply because accelerated hardware isn't required, but thing will change...

Nokia has planned to reintroduce GPU:s for Symbian Foundation's second iteration (Symbian^3), because this version of the significantly improved OS will enable new graphical behaviour for the new UI, and thus the need of a GPU. By then, GPU:s will most likely be standard, and we might finally see some good commercial games for Symbian.

Symbian^4 will introduce Qt 4.6 (as you most likely already know), which will simplify cross-platform development. Then, and only then, the Maemo-Symbian combo might attract the average developer.


At least that's how "the great plan" looks like today. ;)

Very much true. Screenplay especially on the Symbian^3 is something that could actually need some umph. Thought reading that rumour it sounds to be nearer than end of next year when we will most probally see the first Symbian^3 phones. I mean there's no Symbian^2 phones out yet :)
Good to remember that Samsung had OMAP3 on Omnia HD already. While i agree that it really didn't bring much to the table with 5the dition it at least made it fast and brought higher reso video recording.

So i guess this could be just rumour because Maemo isn't going to get snapdragon and like you i'm skeptical about Symbian getting snapdragon for Symbian^2.

mikec 2009-11-04 20:57

Q3 Global Smartphone sales
 
Numbers are out Now with decent graphs

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/...figures_no.php

lets see where Maemo is this time next year

Mike C

drm 2009-11-04 21:01

Re: Q3 Global Smartphone sales
 
Not so catastrophic has they predicted…

mikec 2009-11-04 21:02

Re: Q3 Global Smartphone sales
 
All the iPhone Hype, just look at how well Blackberry is growing

sjgadsby 2009-11-04 21:04

Re: Q309 global phone marketshare figures out: SE eclipses Motorola
 
Threads merged.

christexaport 2009-11-04 21:38

Re: Q309 global phone marketshare figures out: SE eclipses Motorola
 
These figures are for ALL cellphones, not just smartphones. Apple isn't even a factor on that level. If you just post smartphone figures, of which I don't feel Apple truly belongs, but will include for the sake of perception and to avoid a debate, Apple is a player, and a strong one.

Apple's rise will taper the next few quarters, but because of Android and WinMo, not Nokia. Apple is precariously hedged in the US, with about 40% of its sales in the US. Droid and Windows Phone will wreak havoc on the iPhone. at&t will push Symbian next year, so they say, and hopefully someone will push Maemo (uh, TMo...get it together.), and a weak iPhone and a refreshed Symbian by Q4 2010 will make for an interesting market war, especially in the US.

Motorola will rise back to one of the top three or four spots in the US and possibly abroad with its Android strategy, and if they're profitable enough to afford to jump back into Symbian development, they'll be a formidable OEM to tangle with in most markets.


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