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etuoyo 2009-12-05 01:43

Re: VLC Player Officially coming
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rushmore (Post 402673)
Why are the current codecs so picky on the N900?

Also why does the first few seconds of each video stutter?

shadowjk 2009-12-05 19:02

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It eats huge amounts of RAM, causing stalls when huge amounts of unused pages get swapped out.

therock 2009-12-10 22:20

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hey so i played aroud with the streaming of the internal player and this is what i got so far:

i installed "Decoders Support 0.1" from extras-testing
and then i setup vlc on my computer to stream a movie with this
Quote:

:sout=#transcode{vcodec=mp2v,vb=100,scale=1,width= 800,height=640,acodec=mpga,ab=128,channels=2,sampl erate=44100}:std{access=http,mux=ts,dst=0.0.0.0:80 80}
then i got on my n900 and went to a site where i uploaded a video.m3u that contained http://192.168.1.130:8080 and that tricked the internal player to pickup the mpeg2 stream and start buffering

now the quality was not something to be proud of but it worked! with a bit of lag

but one thing that stroke my mind was.... is the DSP in use?
so i did a top and this is the results

Quote:

Mem: 240648K used, 4900K free, 0K shrd, 244K buff, 43136K cached
CPU: 73.7% usr 14.8% sys 0.0% nice 9.4% idle 0.3% io 0.0% irq 1.4% softirq
Load average: 2.61 2.54 1.88
PID PPID USER STAT RSS %MEM %CPU COMMAND
5258 659 user S < 31364 12.7 42.8 /usr/bin/mafw-dbus-wrapper mafw-gst-renderer
785 659 root R < 19540 7.9 21.1 /usr/bin/Xorg -logfile /tmp/Xorg.0.log -logverbose 1 -nolisten tcp -noreset -s 0
734 1 pulse S < 3676 1.4 17.4 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --system --high-priority
I havent figured out how to minimize the stream so i can check the preformance on browser, widgets ect.
but from what i can see from the top there is no cpu left to that :)

ArnimS 2009-12-10 22:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by therock (Post 421738)
hey so i played aroud with the streaming of the internal player and this is what i got so far:......

I havent figured out how to minimize the stream so i can check the preformance on browser, widgets ect.
but from what i can see from the top there is no cpu left to that :)

There already is a great solution for watching streaming vids from your PC/media-server!

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ghlight=knots2

christexaport 2009-12-10 22:27

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So was the DSP being used or not? I cant decipher that log to save my life...

therock 2009-12-10 22:29

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i dont think the DSP was used

but damn if it was i were streaming my tv over openvpn to my phone right now :P

ArnimS 2009-12-10 22:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by therock (Post 421752)
i dont think the DSP was used

but damn if it was i were streaming my tv over openvpn to my phone right now :P

Or if you were running knots2.

therock 2009-12-11 07:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ArnimS (Post 421778)
Or if you were running knots2.

so AminmS

how do i add knots2

i dont see it in any of the extras?

zaheerm 2009-12-11 07:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by therock (Post 421738)
then i got on my n900 and went to a site where i uploaded a video.m3u that contained http://192.168.1.130:8080 and that tricked the internal player to pickup the mpeg2 stream and start buffering

now the quality was not something to be proud of but it worked! with a bit of lag

but one thing that stroke my mind was.... is the DSP in use?
so i did a top and this is the results

There is no mpeg2 dsp decoder provided by Nokia on the N900. However there are dsp implementations on the OMAP3 for MPEG2.

zaheerm 2009-12-11 07:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 408359)
zaheerm: flumotion will be a killer app for Maemo. Looking forward to seeing your work.

I put the stock flumotion in extras-devel. There is still a bit of work for it to stream something useful from the device but we at least have a package available.

romanianusa 2009-12-11 19:26

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So when exactly are we able to use VLC?

christexaport 2009-12-11 21:08

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NOW!!! On your PC. LOL.
Not sure when a release client will emerge.

redenisc 2009-12-14 07:43

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My educated guess for the VLC 1.1.0 stable release would be March or April. There should better planning visibility after the '09 developer meeting this week-end.

Until then you're going to have to use pre-releases. I still need to iron out a few critical bugs before I update the current old one.

Or then find someone (else) to fork the existing VLC 1.0 and maintain it for N900.

bazz 2009-12-14 20:41

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So it should be listed in the url that was posted correct?
http://www.videolan.org/developers/vlc-branch/NEWS
I cant find anything about the n900. Am I missing something?

qole 2009-12-14 22:49

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For what its worth, I've put redenisc's pre-release version of VLC (taken from his website) into my repository. Go to the website on my signature to see the repository details. Use the Maemo 5 (Fremantle) repository.

therock 2009-12-14 23:12

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okay thanks qole

will play around with it tomorrow and see what i get

soleil 2009-12-15 09:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 427977)
For what its worth, I've put redenisc's pre-release version of VLC (taken from his website) into my repository. Go to the website on my signature to see the repository details. Use the Maemo 5 (Fremantle) repository.

I can't find VLC on your repository

redenisc 2009-12-15 12:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bazz (Post 427723)
So it should be listed in the url that was posted correct?
http://www.videolan.org/developers/vlc-branch/NEWS
I cant find anything about the n900. Am I missing something?

As I said, quite a lot of ARMv7 and/or Maemo5 improvements were or are being done in the development branch:
http://www.videolan.org/developers/vlc/NEWS

You can build VLC 1.0 for Maemo 5, but don't expect much as it predates the N900 announcement...

Qole: I'm trying to build a more recent and complete version. But there are a few critical bugs to work around. I have found one rather annoying segfault in the GCC unwinding code :confused: By the way, if anyone knows of to stick a more recent toolchain into scratchbox, that would be awesome.

therock 2009-12-15 12:51

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okay so since vlc was not in the rep i tryed out the solution with knots2

and now......... gentlemen i got openvpn + knots2 streaming my satellite tv to my nokia N900

i followed the http://wiki.maemo.org/Knots guide and then i copyed the Nokia N900 profile and changed the bitrate to 1000 and the width 320 and height 240
I got the N900 streaming without any lag and in acceptable quality, i haven't tryed on a 3.5G yet because there is not that a good coverage

so this is great until vlc comes in the picture

Rushmore 2009-12-15 14:48

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I hope something is released soon, since it is getting old for videos that play fine on the Archos 5 to not play on the N900- same exact chipset.

At least release some codec updates for the current player. I sense there was not a lot of codec and driver testing on the N900, based on relative performance. I can understand why Flash plays better on the Archos 5 (Flashlite 3) but not why avi and divx have some problems on the N900 and not the Archos 5.

Avi and divx that plays on the Archos 5 but at least 30% have these problems on the N900:

1. Green screen for 80% of the display.
2. Stutters for about 15 seconds
3. Frame drops
4. Do not play at all.

I am not trying hi def vids. None were greater than the native res of the N900.

Rushmore 2009-12-15 16:18

Re: VLC Player Officially coming
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 362042)
What is the point of 9458515155159 media players? Get me one which is good, which provides a good interface. I don't care about the name. VLC is Qt on Linux desktop, hence I don't use it on my GNOME desktop. Totem works great, and uses Gstreamer. Unless VLC has a good UI its just another media player for Maemo. Which is unfortunate.


Fine with me. Nice if Nokia kindly update the codecs and drivers to enable the N900 to perform at the same level of other 3430 devices (like Archos 5). Even with MP4, there are some that play on the Droid that do not on the N900. Ironic.

Temporary bump in the road anyways, since we will see updates and it is still better for my "70%" of avi and divx to play compared to Android's 0% ;)

qole 2009-12-15 18:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rushmore (Post 429038)
At least release some codec updates for the current player.

Did you install the codec pack? (Called "Decoders Support" in the repositories)

qole 2009-12-15 18:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by soleil (Post 428679)
I can't find VLC on your repository

Sorry, I forgot to update the package lists. :(

But it still won't show up in your Application Manager, I guess it isn't in the "user" category.

Not a big deal. Get root and then:

Code:

apt-get install vlc
But honestly, knots2 is a great solution if streaming video is what you want...

Rushmore 2009-12-15 19:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 429289)
Did you install the codec pack? (Called "Decoders Support" in the repositories)


Just did, but same vids do not work on the N900, but play on the Archos 5 and Dash (not smooth on Dash though).

Mplayer will "do" for now, but look forward to codecs within the framework performing as well as Mplayer. Better for battery life!

redenisc 2009-12-16 07:17

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I updated it. Now the Qt4 UI sort of works, but it is not friendly (then again, until Qt4.6 is out, I guess it won't improve much).

Unfortunately though, Qt seems to do something odd with the video (compositing perhaps?), and makes the whole rendering über-slow. So you get to choose between a crappy UI and slow rendering, or proper rendering but no UI :/

d-iivil 2009-12-16 08:00

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In my case the VLC doesn't even start. When I click the shortcut the new VLC window opens, but stays in "loading"-stage forever... (loading animation is rolling on the top bar).

twaelti 2009-12-16 08:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rushmore (Post 429439)
Just did, but same vids do not work on the N900, but play on the Archos 5 and Dash (not smooth on Dash though).

Can you post the exact codec information about the movies that don't play (well)? That would be the most helpful thing to do, as then someone could try to find solutions for gstreamer/MAFW (the in-built player).

redenisc 2009-12-16 08:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Iivil (Post 430105)
In my case the VLC doesn't even start. When I click the shortcut the new VLC window opens, but stays in "loading"-stage forever... (loading animation is rolling on the top bar).

Which version? The git3xxx stuff does not have a graphical UI, so you need to start it from CLI anyway.

The git4xxx stuff does have a Qt4 UI, but it is so slow that you probably want to use the CLI too as well.

d-iivil 2009-12-16 09:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by redenisc (Post 430167)
Which version? The git3xxx stuff does not have a graphical UI, so you need to start it from CLI anyway.

The git4xxx stuff does have a Qt4 UI, but it is so slow that you probably want to use the CLI too as well.

Actually I'm not sure. I took it by "apt-get install vlc" after adding Qole's repository to the repos list.

qole 2009-12-16 17:34

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redenisc: D-livil is using the git3xxx stuff of course. Those are the ones I put in my repository from your website. I don't see the binaries for your new QT version anywhere.

Rushmore 2009-12-16 18:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by twaelti (Post 430160)
Can you post the exact codec information about the movies that don't play (well)? That would be the most helpful thing to do, as then someone could try to find solutions for gstreamer/MAFW (the in-built player).

I will tonight if I can and use VLC tools to get the codec information.

redenisc 2009-12-17 10:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 430693)
redenisc: D-livil is using the git3xxx stuff of course. Those are the ones I put in my repository from your website. I don't see the binaries for your new QT version anywhere.

Same as before http://www.remlab.net/files/vlc/fremantle/

But you get to choose between slow VLC:
# qvlc

or the fast UI-less VLC:
# rvlc

OptX 2009-12-18 17:56

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When i use vlc in xterminal, i get quite a few "number of reference frames exceeds max (probably corrupt input), discarding one"
But stream runs ok so far. What do i have to set lower ?

messus 2009-12-26 20:01

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For God's sake, stop complaining about the VLC player!!

All state of the art Set Top Boxes for TV (Dreambox, IPBOX, Kathrein etc..) stream tv using VLC plugin, so a lot of people I guess would benefit from VLC on the Maemo5/N900 platform..

I suppose there is a reason for Dreambox Multimedia (Linux BTW) did choose the VLC plugin..

I am so very much looking forward to VLC on my Nokia N900 (among many other things such as WMV playing and streaming capability, and support for MS Silverlight!)

I need VLC on the N900 to be able to stream tv streams from my STB..

Happy New Year !!

therock 2010-01-02 17:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by messus (Post 442331)
For God's sake, stop complaining about the VLC player!!

All state of the art Set Top Boxes for TV (Dreambox, IPBOX, Kathrein etc..) stream tv using VLC plugin, so a lot of people I guess would benefit from VLC on the Maemo5/N900 platform..

I suppose there is a reason for Dreambox Multimedia (Linux BTW) did choose the VLC plugin..

I am so very much looking forward to VLC on my Nokia N900 (among many other things such as WMV playing and streaming capability, and support for MS Silverlight!)

I need VLC on the N900 to be able to stream tv streams from my STB..

Happy New Year !!


i got that running with knots
streaming tv from dreambox to n900

but yeah vlc would rock

twaelti 2010-01-02 19:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by therock (Post 450083)
i got that running with knots
streaming tv from dreambox to n900

Knots directly on the Dreambox? Or your PC in-between?
What model of the Dreambox?
I want a version of DreamStream for myN900 :D

ceza_21 2010-01-02 19:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by therock (Post 450083)
i got that running with knots
streaming tv from dreambox to n900

but yeah vlc would rock

can you give us the instructions to stream dreambox on n900 please!!!!!!

therock 2010-01-04 22:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ceza_21 (Post 450199)
can you give us the instructions to stream dreambox on n900 please!!!!!!

sure easy as hell

follow the knots setup thats on the wiki

then when you have that setup just point knots to you dm http://ip:31344 and then it works

smegheadz 2010-01-05 16:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by therock (Post 453213)
sure easy as hell

follow the knots setup thats on the wiki

then when you have that setup just point knots to you dm http://ip:31344 and then it works

you can do something similar with tversity. i've used it to stream from sopcast/tvu/tvants to my ps3.

nMIK-3 2010-01-25 20:44

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Its been a while since their change-log.
I hope is coming soon.


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