Re: Maemo Greeters Pilot
 

101 is a generally understood number at least in North American academic communities (it's the first course you take in a subject) and is spreading in its applicability. It's certainly not techie, but it is perhaps cultural. We can perhaps live with it given that, but you can call it whatever you like as long as the link stays the same in the url.

Re: Maemo Greeters Pilot
 

A sort of bump that relates to the general topic of helping others

About the FAQ, could use help and thoughts. More changes to come to ideas page...

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=34056

thx

S

Re: Maemo Greeters Pilot
 

While I agree with your essential sentiment, I still think the "tidy-minded" techie is a myth. :p

/me stares ruefully at cluttered desk that matches mind.

Re: Maemo Greeters Pilot
 

Well, personally I haven't met 101 in Polish (or Danish) (academic) culture. I don't have problems with it, but it would say that it may not be understood by broader audience :)

I will try to find some time this week and work on Polish translations/sections, since we can, hopefully, expect a rather large community here :)
(of course unless N900 is released; then I'm over and out :) )

Re: Maemo Greeters Pilot
 

As a native English speaker, I've only come across '101' in a North American context. That's not to say I don't know what it means. I just wouldn't use it in Britain. It might be useful to replace it with something more cross-cultural.

(Refrains from suggesting "MIckey Mouse's guide to the n900'!)

Re: Maemo Greeters Pilot
 

No 101 in Italy either. I am going to change the signature.

EDIT: there's some limit in the alphanumeric chars in the signature. This should be relieved in order to accomodate the maemo greeters presentation and links in more verbose languages (like mine :o ).

Re: Maemo Greeters Pilot
 

101 is not used in Swedish either and I doubt the majority of Swedes would understand it. I roughly translated it to "Maemo 5 in brief" in my signature.

Re: Maemo Greeters Pilot
 

I posted your signature in the wiki pages but I modified it a bit. Could you check it and provide your remarks?

All the best,
Matyas

Re: Maemo Greeters Pilot
 

Hey! Hur mor du!

Jag er Mattia och jag talar lite (lite) svenska :D

Could you post your contribution in the wiki page?

Heydå
Matyas

Re: Maemo Greeters Pilot
 

Alright, so '101' is not an international recognized English term. Lets modify it to suitable English. The item has to be renamed to Maemo_5* in any case.

Suggestions?

I'd propose to change title to Maemo 5 basic principles but such title does not cover the content either.

What it covers now is 2 aspects:

• Offsite videos explaining basics like Tablet School used to to.
• Quotes tips 'n tricks

I do not know about the specific contents, but I remember Tablet School were high quality, visual howtos embedded in web pages.

The Youtube videos are _not_ embedded. Those who go to this page will need to click back to see the next one. Not user-friendly, and no additional text is provided. Does wiki allow embedding videos?

The second part quotes an article which quotes the User Guide which is a copyrighted work. We can use this as basis for a good introduction article.

I suggest the following:

1. We must deal with the fact wiki entries are not static. I suggest to link to a dynamic portal instead.
2. Put the video links on a separate page: Maemo 5/Video tutorials.
3. Put the tips 'n tricks, which is currently keyboard shortcuts, on a separate page: Maemo 5/Keyboard shortcuts

Format #1

== Name of video tutorial ==
This tutorial explains setting up [[Bluetooth PAN]]. [[1]]

Format #2

== CTRL+V ==
Paste current clipboard to current application.

Re: Maemo Greeters Pilot
 

Hej! Jag mår bra, hoppas du också gör det! :)

I added a Swedish version. Unlike my signature I made a straight (or as close as I could) translation of the original English version.

Re: Maemo Greeters Pilot
 

Looking for feedback: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=34377

Re: Maemo Greeters Pilot
 

I really like this idea. However, I wanted to point out one shortcoming to the approach of putting a pile of links in your signature: if the set of useful links changes, you now have a pile of greeters with outdated signatures. What about encouraging people to link to a single editable "links for newcomers" page, perhaps on the wiki?

I don't mean to suggest that no variation should exist in the Maemo Greeter signature; certainly people should feel free to customize it, personalize it, add localized variants for the languages they speak, and so on. I just wonder if the list of links ought to become a single link.

Thoughts?

Re: Maemo Greeters Pilot
 

Actually josh I've been slowly working on that.

Ideally I would see two main links being useful: one to the newcomer's wiki page and one to the Greeters' wiki page. All else could stem from there (maybe a language disambiguity page as well... thinking about that).

I did some minor work on the Greeters' page (many, many huge thanks to smarsh for starting it!) and have more planned. When it's done, this goes from pilot to full-bore implementation.

Anyway your comments are certainly welcome and I do intend to incorporate them!

Re: Maemo Greeters Pilot
 

That sounds reasonable. However, the signature would need to make sure that newcomers don't follow the link to the "become a greeter" page and get confused. :)

As for language, I think the benefits and comfort of seeing your native language in the signature of a Maemo Greeter override the goal of not duplicating information. So, I'd say greeters who speak multiple languages fluently should feel free to copy multiple localized links to localized wiki pages into their signature. I just think we should have at most one link for a given language, which leads to a page with the most important information and links to additional pages.

Awesome. You've done some amazing work driving this project; I think it'll help new users a lot, which makes the community stronger, which helps all of us.

Thanks!

Re: Maemo Greeters Pilot
 

The other link I think has been really useful is the one to my PM box... I've had all sorts of questions and the like thrown at me by that method from people who like to ask an individual person rather the whole board. It's done me good as I've often had to go and find answers!

Re: Maemo Greeters Pilot
 

Thanks Kathy, I needed to be reminded of that!

Re: Maemo Greeters Pilot
 

I am kindly asking greeters to create more content to wikipedia. There is a hell lot of undocumented stuff (read: random replies at tmo) and nothing new has happened to wiki for ages.

the part I am mostly interested in is:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Troubleshooting

I bet that pasting that link is easier than total spoonfeeding. but it requires the page to be improved.. ..a lot.

so please go ahead, I'll do what I can.

got a little torn @ rotator culf (shoulder) so now I have more time to be active instead of sports etc.

Re: Maemo Greeters Pilot
 

Thanks ossipena. I recently added a bit of info and will be doing more.

Re: Maemo Greeters Pilot
 

Sorry for letting this slip; I was hyperfocused on community outreach and man what a time-sucker that's been!

But I want to report that in the last sprint call there was no opposition to me declaring Maemo Greeters as fully implemented, so it's now official: this is not a pilot. ;)

There remains some work as we know and that will be managed as new tasks/subtasks. I will soon create a new thread and request it be made a sticky-- further discussion will take place there. I also intend to start conducting get-togethers on IRC or other similar means.

Again I want to thank everyone participating. Maemo Greeters has been a resounding success (as evidenced by RevdKathy's high karma, despite her protests ;)). There are still detractors who scoff at the value, so let's continue proving them wrong! At the very least, all you have to do is keep posting with helpful signature content... :)