What are the chances for an 'N820' ?
 

I really do like my N810 and can't help but to wonder if we will ever see (or maybe I'm the only luddite who wants to see one...) an 'N820', in lack of a better name, featuring;

* About 5 inch screen,
* More powerful processing power compared to the N810,
* NO cell-phone integrated into the device
* Multi-touch
* Same, very good, Nokia build-quality
* Continuing with an open-sourced OS

And/or, how would you, if you're interested, spec your dream-N820 ?

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That's what I would like. In addition I would like it to have a super fast gps (compaired to N810).

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So would we all, but it's highly unlikely it will happen.

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So sad that Nokia built up the small tablet market, ended up virtually owning it, and now appears to be chucking it away.

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You could give a look to the archos 5 maybe...

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Was the question about a future, non-cellphone tablet raised at the Summit - and if so was there an official Nokia reply?

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I wouldn't even mind cell phone capability - as long as good old BT-pairing isn't disabled and there's a nice GUI in the system settings to connect to my phone if I prefer to do that.

The crucial point is screen size. - Maybe we'll get it, maybe we'll even get it as a Maemo/Mer device, but most probably not from Nokia.

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The problem I see with cellphone-integration into a tablet is;
- for me, a really useful tablet screen starts at maybe 5 inches - at that size it starts to become rather big to bring up to your ear - or, using BT, even to carry 100% of the time,

- I don't want to, for the tablet, have to get a cellphone subscription charge added to the cost.

You may, however - and unfortunately, be correct in that such a device will not be manufactured by Nokia.
It's a shame though as the concept of open-sourced OS on a really well built hardware device (Nokia does build solid things) - with the above mentioned specs - is very appealing.

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I'd love to see something along those lines. Basically N900 hardware (with or without cellular), 4-5" screen, keyboard, usb OTG. Perhaps slightly higher resolution if 5" (1024x600).

But, I just recently pre-ordered the N900. Can't buy what doesn't exist (barely even in rumors, let alone fact). And now that I've done that, there's very little chance I'd buy a N920/N820 if it came out (unless I could do it for $0 or better).

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I say anything is possible. Who here predicted that Nokia would be releasing a Windows 7 netbook before the n900?

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That would be a great idea. I could care less about cellular reception. However i'd also be worried about the price. If they do release something like a N820 i'd imagine it would be around the typical 500$ range.

Theres three things that I hate about the N900(resulting in me not getting one) 1. Forced to buy a cellular plan. Most people won't mind but i'm a guy who hates having to pay for something for the next two years. I'd rather just pay an upfront fee and not having to worry about paying a cent for as long as I own it. 3. Small screen. I was really shocked that they stooped down to an iPhone sized screen. There goes all my movies, and browser experience.

I love the N810's large screen. Yes it could even be a little larger. Resolution isn't everything. Its also the size of the screen that decides if you can enjoy it for certain features.

Price. I did say that i'd rather pay upfront than pay a monthly fee for the next two years so if you weren't forced to buy a cellular plan than 500$ upfront wouldn't be that bad but 500$ with forced plans? Come on! This is a mobile media/internet device. Maybe the price will go down but I won't even consider a N900 in till the price goes way down or they release a version that doesn't require a monthly fee of any kind.

A N820 would be great. No cellular reception or at least a version that doesn't require cellular reception is the key feature that would make me buy one. Than again i'd probably prefer a N900 with no cellular reception.

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Just bought it and happy so far...little unstable but no big deal for me...I am used to bleeding edge.

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You aren't forced to use the cellular reception, nor are you forced to buy a cellular plan. You can always buy an unlocked device, and then skip getting a cellular plan, if you don't plan to use it anyway. However, that might be a costy option. ;)

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Inside: OMAP3, >=256MB RAM, internal SD or microSD slot, WiFi, BT, HSPA modem.

Outside: N900-style keys (but at least 15 more of them), 4-5" screen, full-size stand, home/menu/ESC/fullscreen hardware buttons, externally accessible card slot, stylus. In a perfect world a second, host-mode USB port.

High resolution camera, cellular voice, accelerometers, FM rx/tx optional.

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Really? I probably should have asked before I made the assumption. Still, I find 600$ for a mobile internet/media device pretty steep. Especially seeing how you can get a high end net book for for a lot less.

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Wait, so you can buy a N900 with even messing with cellular service? Or do I have to sign up for one then cancel it. Which in that case its a hassle and expensive. I don't even want to mess with cellular reception of any kind. Including having to deal with somehow not signing up for one.

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there you go!
when my n810 eventually gets retired i'll be willing to spend more than i probably should on features like those, just based on my experience with the n810.
if nokia won't build it someone else will, though maybe not as well. nokia made money on the n810 without much advertising, so there is a big market for it.

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Of course.

Why would you need to involve telecom in that scenarion at all?

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I pre-ordered my N900 unlocked from Dell $453 shipped. Still a little more than I would have liked, but close enough.

I plan on using it with a pay as you go plan initially, we'll see from there. I figured at that price, I could re-sell it pretty easily IF Nokia (or someone else) comes up with a reasonable tablet sized device in the near future. Probably shouldn't lose too much money on it that way. Or I may just keep it, even if it isn't quite what I'm looking for.

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this would be perfect for me

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Reeeheeally? How hackable has it been so far? Have you tried to root it and muck about in ssh? I've been seriously contemplating one.

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I think your chance of seeing an n820 are about the same as seeing a n900
That is next to zero

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If not Nokia, then somebody will...

The N810 is at the extreme end of the netbook range whereas the N900 is something else, a really, really smart phone. They aren't the same thing even if they do a lot of the same stuff. As I see it, the N810 trades off just enough netbook capability to get barely under the "carry all the time" threshold for a reasonable number of people. I mean, if it were any bigger or heavier, it wouldn't be sitting in a pouch on my belt. I bet a lot of people already think the N810 is way too big and heavy. As others have mentioned, it's already too big to really use as a phone. If it were any smaller then it wouldn't be able to browse the web decently; it would just be a lousy VoIP phone. But, it hits that sweet spot for me; the ultimate (so far) in mobile computing, at least for the price.

Can the N810 be improved without losing this sweet spot? Maybe, a new high-sensitivity GPS chip might be nice. A little more RAM, a little more CPU power, with the same or better battery life. But, right now, it's running all the apps I want, it carries around 16Gb of media on a tiny (replaceable) chip, it lets me watch movies, browse the web, figure out where I am... It's a journal, email client, a calendar, it syncs with Google, I can tether it to my phone (if I weren't too cheap to pay for a data plan instead of poaching WiFi). It works with my ODBII reader to figure out why the trouble-light has gone off on my car. It's my alarm clock... I use it to remote-desktop to my servers at work; I code in Perl with it. For it's size, it's an awesome general purpose computer. But, if the screen were any smaller, then it just wouldn't work with applications not specifically written for a small-screen format. Could you imagine trying to remote-desktop to another computer with anything smaller than the N810? The N810 screen is just barely big enough. Make it smaller, like the N900, and you lose "general purpose" functionality. I'm sure the N900 is a totally-awesome phone, with the ability to do some amazing things, but I suspect the screen is just too small to do a lot of regular-computer stuff.

If you think of it this way, then, yes, sure there will be a successor to the N810. There will always be devices at the extreme end of the netbook spectrum, a pocket computer that's "just" big enough and "just" small enough. Will Nokia develop this? I hope so, they did a damn fine job on the N810.

David...