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cmstewart86 2010-04-29 06:41

Re: BBC IPlayer on the N900 - A different approach
 
Iplayer now works smoothly for me using the normal version and choosing the pop out player. The trick here, if you haven't done so already, is to disable power saving mode for your wifi connection.

vectorspace 2010-05-02 05:33

Re: BBC IPlayer on the N900 - A different approach
 
Have the BBC changed it again? I don't see the pop-out button. I see play/pause and restart on the left, and subtitles, volume and full-screen on the right.

When I try to play an iplayer vid, I get sound but the picture is blank. There is a control at the top right that shrinks the player, but it does not help.

marcdxn 2010-05-04 08:56

Re: BBC IPlayer on the N900 - A different approach
 
how do you disable wifi power save?

vectorspace 2010-05-04 18:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by devildriven (Post 642043)
I am using the WII version page, in lowerbandwidth mode and not the full site. :(

How do you access the Wii version?

vectorspace 2010-05-06 05:14

Re: BBC IPlayer on the N900 - A different approach
 
Same issue there - audio but no video.

gs1 2010-05-06 09:00

Re: BBC IPlayer on the N900 - A different approach
 
Still works for me. Just go to the normal iPlayer site for TV - not Bigscreen or Wii. Click BBC1 and click a programme. At the bottom of the page select "Lower Bandwidth" (it seems to remember this choice). Then click the pop-out which is now a tiny button in the lower right of the picture (the middle of 3 buttons there - stylus can be useful to save having to zoom). When the new window opens go to bottom right again and click full screen. It then fills the screen very nicely and you can use the volume rocker. iPlayer runs smoothly for me on domestic wifi. I don't have to disable power save or anything.

vectorspace 2010-05-06 19:52

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Working for me too, thanks! Both MicroB and Firefox, though MicroB is smoother and less flakey.

My problem was that the particular show I was trying to watch, did not have the pop-out button (??!?!?).

Tried a different show, and the pop-out button is playing nicely.

I have a sneaking suspicion that multiple Flash objects might be what is causing normal iPlayer pages to have blank video (there is 2 or 3 on iPlayer pages, including the video).

It's a shame Flashblock isn't available for Firefox for Mobile - if it was, the extra flash objects would not be rendered and so not interfere with he video. Maybe the next Flash plugin will improve on this.


P.S. a note about using Pop-out: It opens a new window/tab but leaves the original, which is sitting there hogging resources. You get better performance if you then close the original window/tab.

vectorspace 2010-05-08 17:49

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P.P.S. I get a big fat counter displayed over the video - anyone else get that, and how do I get rid of it?

Luz 2010-06-07 16:47

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#oes anyone know how to selevt lower bandwith in BBC iplayer beta? Help page says it should be at bottom of each programme page, i cant see the option anywhere.. all i get is live sound and hardly any picture when trying to stream.... hope someone can help...

TomJ 2010-06-07 19:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Luz (Post 703725)
#oes anyone know how to selevt lower bandwith in BBC iplayer beta? Help page says it should be at bottom of each programme page, i cant see the option anywhere.. all i get is live sound and hardly any picture when trying to stream.... hope someone can help...

At the bottom left-hand corner of the page you should see a BBC logo, copyright notice and disclaimer. Above this is a horizontal line. Above this is a link saying "Access the BBC iPlayer on your favorite device". Carry on to the right; the "Use lower bandwidth version" link is there.

Yaser88 2010-06-24 21:29

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Is this to be compatible with live streaming ?

topscrote 2011-08-05 07:40

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No-one seems to be posting much about BBC iplayer at the moment as I assume, like me, you've all been happy to click on the "play in pop-out" button and enjoy full playback on the N900.
However, after months of trouble-free viewing (and listening), I suddenly found that the browser was directing me to the bbc.co.uk/mobile/iplayer site which came up with the message "your phone is not supported". My bookmark has been www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer for months.
I had not updated any software on my phone, yet it insisted on taking me to the...\mobile\iplayer site.
I installed Firefox which duly took me to the page but then fails as soon as I click on the programme I want to watch or listen to as there is no flash support.
Have I inadvertently changed something in the browser?
I'm running CSSU latest version. The software update was Marble, but iplayer was working immediately after that.

MINKIN2 2011-08-05 07:59

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Try checking your tweekflash settings have not reverted to froyo or another parameter

Edit: sorry I just checked too and I am getting the same thing.

Tried entering the latest flash player version manually into tweak flash but that did not work. It seems as though they have updated the site :(

WhereIstheBeer 2011-08-05 08:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by topscrote (Post 1064451)
No-one seems to be posting much about BBC iplayer at the moment as I assume, like me, you've all been happy to click on the "play in pop-out" button and enjoy full playback on the N900.
However, after months of trouble-free viewing (and listening), I suddenly found that the browser was directing me to the bbc.co.uk/mobile/iplayer site which came up with the message "your phone is not supported". My bookmark has been www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer for months.
I had not updated any software on my phone, yet it insisted on taking me to the...\mobile\iplayer site.
I installed Firefox which duly took me to the page but then fails as soon as I click on the programme I want to watch or listen to as there is no flash support.
Have I inadvertently changed something in the browser?
I'm running CSSU latest version. The software update was Marble, but iplayer was working immediately after that.

Same with me www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/bigscreen still works for radio anyways

MINKIN2 2011-08-05 08:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WhereIstheBeer (Post 1064468)
Same with me www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/bigscreen still works for radio anyways

Ey up! this link works for me :)

Try manually entering the flash player version 10.3.60 in to tweak flash and try again. I'm watching Rosie right now

WhereIstheBeer 2011-08-05 09:24

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I got the main www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer back by changing the browser version

browse to about:config (see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...about%3Aconfig)

search for vendor

click then press enter on general.useragent.vendor

I changed mine to

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/4.0.1

(from
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Gec...ring_reference)

I have no idea of the consequence on doing this

demolition 2011-08-05 17:45

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Seems like the BBC are continuing to force the use proprietory software on its licence payers. Great value! ahem!

Yes, using HideUserAgent and a desktop UA string seems to work for the time being. TweakFlash is fine with desktop version LNX 10.1.53

@WhereIsTheBeer - I couldn't get it to save doing it directly. Every time I restarted microB, the UA string reset. How did you manage to save it?

Mostly I use get_iplayer and listen/watch offline: there's nothing worse than stuttery playback! However, sometimes I need to look through the site to get programme IDs, URIs or just see what might be worth watching / listening to.

I know it's a bit naughty to cross post but I've been trying to get better quality playback of videos, which have been recorded with get_iplayer. If anyone has any thoughts, please have a look.

tomchiverton 2011-08-05 18:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by demolition (Post 1064766)
Seems like the BBC are continuing to force the use proprietory software on its licence payers. Great value! ahem!

getiplayer is FOSS and works fine, so they're not.

udaychaitanya16 2011-08-05 19:07

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Offtopic.How can i find the url of streaming radio?I tried in many ways in vain.Most of the sites let me listen through their website.currently i am running ubuntu 11.04 in my computer.what i badly need is urls of some of the radio stations of my native language,so that i ll add them to media player in N900
Thanks

WhereIstheBeer 2011-08-05 20:18

Re: BBC IPlayer on the N900 - A different approach
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by demolition (Post 1064766)
Seems like the BBC are continuing to force the use proprietory software on its licence payers. Great value! ahem!

Yes, using HideUserAgent and a desktop UA string seems to work for the time being. TweakFlash is fine with desktop version LNX 10.1.53

@WhereIsTheBeer - I couldn't get it to save doing it directly. Every time I restarted microB, the UA string reset. How did you manage to save it?

Mostly I use get_iplayer and listen/watch offline: there's nothing worse than stuttery playback! However, sometimes I need to look through the site to get programme IDs, URIs or just see what might be worth watching / listening to.

I know it's a bit naughty to cross post but I've been trying to get better quality playback of videos, which have been recorded with get_iplayer. If anyone has any thoughts, please have a look.


In the end I installed "Hide User Agent" from extras-devel, its not exactly toggling browser but seems to work

demolition 2011-08-06 00:21

Re: BBC IPlayer on the N900 - A different approach
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tomchiverton (Post 1064796)
getiplayer is FOSS and works fine, so they're not.

I meant it's no longer possible to view the iplayer website with the default browser settings. Also, I believe get_iplayer is not particularly liked by the BBC and is certainly not officially supported. However, it does allow those of us without flash 10 (and hence adobe air) to play content offline and more recently, access it at all - so yes, get_iplayer is really great.

@udaychaitanya16
For bbc radio, change your browser string with HideUserAgent (in extras-devel) and look on bbc.co.uk/iplayer . Most stations broadcast live (online), otherwise you can stream or use get_iplayer to download. I believe BBC radio is not isp geo-restricted. For other stations, there are a couple of pieces of software dedicated to internet radio in the repositories.

udaychaitanya16 2011-08-06 07:33

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@demolition
It would be verymuch helpful if you could name the software in repositories.I have spent hours together for possible ways of extracting urls in ubuntu.Most of them like urlfinder,urlsniffer etc are for windows.I have tried it with wireshark and ettercap in ubuntu.My limited knowledge in linux didnt permit me probing wireshark in depth.The site VOICEVIBES.NET has an embedded player behind activex control.Regardng BBC, world service english news is enough for me.what i am searching for is urls of my language.Thanks for quick reply.

demolition 2011-08-06 11:46

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other internet radio software...
- open FAM,
- press install applications
- type the letters r, a, d, i and o. A search bar pops up when you start to type.
- select and install the ones you want.

**If you install something from devel or testing be mindful of the potential to crash.

TomJ 2011-08-07 12:58

Re: BBC IPlayer on the N900 - A different approach
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by udaychaitanya16 (Post 1064805)
Offtopic.How can i find the url of streaming radio?I tried in many ways in vain.Most of the sites let me listen through their website.currently i am running ubuntu 11.04 in my computer.what i badly need is urls of some of the radio stations of my native language,so that i ll add them to media player in N900
Thanks

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Have a look at this thread. All the BBC Radio straming links you could need. The Radio 7 link still works for 4 Extra.

udaychaitanya16 2011-08-07 13:07

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@TomJ
Thank you for BBC stations ,but what i need is ,a method to extract streaming urls from online radios,so that i can catch some of my local stations.I am sorry to hijack this thread.

demolition 2011-08-08 22:39

Re: BBC IPlayer on the N900 - A different approach
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by udaychaitanya16 (Post 1065522)
@TomJ
Thank you for BBC stations ,but what i need is ,a method to extract streaming urls from online radios,so that i can catch some of my local stations.I am sorry to hijack this thread.

It's kind of related - many of probably use get_iplayer and that is certainly "a different approach" to watching iplayer compared with streaming to the screen.

> Look up get_iplayer
- - start on TMO also, look at the list of commands on linuxcentre.net
> Look up rtmpdump and flvstreamer.
- - see if there's another prject that suits your needs

Do look for internet radio applications in "extras" though. NB.You may also need to install perl (libperl) for streaming to file.

topscrote 2011-08-19 11:38

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Nice one WhereIstheBeer. Got my iplayer working. A bit juddery on tv playback, but that might change. Radio works fine. Good work.


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