Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

i have a Q?

N900 doesn't support the portrait mode except for the Phone calls....so
can the firmware adjust & solve this issue

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

what does IrDA mean??

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Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

btw, is there sms handwriting recognition in N900??

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

There's no handwriting recognition in Maemo 5 at all. It existed in Maemo 4 but was dropped.

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

The N900 is supported with Infrared prt,,,howcome you r saying (Irda Missing)??,,,correct me if i am wrong..:),,i dont now much about these things..heheh:o:o

what does WIP means???

many thanx for being patient wit me:)

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

thanks..but why:(:(

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

WIP means work in progress

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The infrared port on the N900 is not for data exchange (IrDA). Instead, with the right software, it allows the N900 to act as a universal remote for televisions, DVD players, sound systems, and the like.

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

my friend,,

i heard about java, & its importance..

what is java, and if it is not in the hardware, is it going to be problem in surfing the net or installing programs??

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Do you think it could be used for temperature measurement? I.E. do you know if it's got a transmitter as well as a IR receiver/detector? Or would that be IRDA?

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Yes, but you don't need to use the A in AGPS. Without a data connection, the GPS just takes slightly longer to get a fix on the sattelites.

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

Really ?

One of the justification points for the resistive screen was touted the handwriting recognition feature and its use in other countries (Asia in particular) (not by Nokia but in the forums).

I am surprised to hear that this feature has been dropped when this was a selling point for Nokia in Asia specific regions.

Is there any plans to add this later - or is it not supported in the Maemo framework at all ?

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

Java is a programming language. Hardware support for it is not necessary.

Any web site that uses Java for some required function (e.g. account login on some banking sites) will not work with the Maemo browser. Java programs, common on many other phones, will not install or run in Maemo.

Nokia has stated they are not working on making Java available on Maemo. It is possible that someone else may craft a solution to running Java programs, a Java plug-in for the Maemo browser, or the like on Maemo, but such tasks are not simple, weekend projects.

In previous Maemo releases, it has been possible to s-l-o-w-l-y run at least some Java applications and applets within Easy Debian. That option should be available once again in Maemo 5, though qole has to fight past a few additional barriers this time.

As I understand it, the N900 has an IR transmitter only.

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

Moving right along. What can be sent out over the USB port? Scenario I'm thinking of here is if I want to build a dock (since Nokia is not going to have one available as a standard accessory), I've got the USB port on one side, the AV port on the other. Can I pipe A/V out through the USB, or would that require USB host or USB on the go, (which when I last searched was either not available or couldn't be certified because the certifying agency will not certify a port to charge and be host).

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Great explanation!

I'd just lke to add that Javascript on the other hand is indeed supported by Maemo's browser. Javascript is used in "Web 2.0" pages like Facebook etc., and has nothing to do with Java other than a similar name and similar syntax.

It's a common mistake and I thought it worth mentioning :)

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Thanks for the sample Qik Video - and to Edgar2 also.

Is ther any way to define the size of the video (640x480) or higer res in the Qik client. ?

Qik announced that it is bringing out a HiRes Video client for the Droid. Hope they work on the Maemo version too and really make it a nice app - to take advantage of the N900 camera.

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

Hi

I have 2 questions about "issues" in media player and phone app, that maybe have been solved in the newer firmwares:

1. In the Artists view of the media player, is there a column of letters on the right to scroll directly to the artists beginning with that letter? (like in contact view where you scroll by groups of 3 letters if I remember well)

1. Has "smart dial" been implemented in the phone app in portrait, taking advantage of the T9 keyboard?? It seems silly that it's only working in landscape

thanks!

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Java is an island and a programexecution multi-system-environment with its own programming language, means:

you wont be able to execute java programs as there is no environment ready yet. some browser experience is restricted to not having java webstart, so some games on websites wont work yet (java login means you are starting a java based client for this website, thats not possible without the env {JRE}). thats it. java script is something else and its execution or in this case interpretation is part of the browser itself.


IrDA and CIR:
IrDA is for data transfer with protocolls like IrOBEX...
CIR is what your stereos,TVs remotes do, ConsumerInfrared basic remote control
the OMAP chip is capable of doing IrDA, so as I said somewhere else, we just dont know if its a software or a hardware issue to get it working but I guess the reciever is missing (means hardware issue, and no IrDA ever)

turn-by-turn navigation... I think I read baout that somewhere, a port or cross compile from somewhere allready being tested, cant find it... or was it just basic routing? thought it was...sry

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I hope data connections won't be necessary. I want to go to Reykjavik next month and would rather pre-load my phone with maps, I guess I may have to stick to my N82 a little longer?

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Is it possible that Fennec/Firefox may integrate Java and allow programs to work in their application ?

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

so you mean that, there are indeed some site will not open from the internet due to lack of Java???? huhuh

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

Java and Javascript are not the same thing.

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Yes, but i have only seen a few. Generally java (not javascript, which is supported!) is used for advanced applets like function plotting or real-time 3D animation. And i'm pretty sure that nothing without windows or full-blown linux can run this sort of java

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

yea bro,,, i know:)

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

so,, does it have negetive impact on broesing??( i mean is it very importany to have it???)

thnx

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

No, it's not. It's very probable that most people don't have it on their computers anyway, but never notice
Check here to see if you have it on your pc. If you see nothing or an error, you don't have a java plugin for browser and don't even need it

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

no there was no java runtime integration before and I guess its not on the feature list.

no the sites will open, its just some tools they use wont work and most of the time they have an old style replacement if its something really needed (not for games websiteclients)
I run once in a while in such a website (some sites you pay for what reason ever have such clients too, and thats nothing I want to start, on windows you might get your machine hijacked and thousands of popups). cause my desktop machines java webstart doesnt work atm, but that is nothing that worries me at all. its sites I wont surf to on my n900 nor on my desktop (well you never know what people do all day but honestly I dont care about JRE).

most of the websites work with flash javascript html php and cgi, php and cgi is something you dont even recognize as the server does that on his side, what you on the user side will see is flash html and javascript. flash is still a pain on some 64bit distributions and is truely a "hot" on the maemo userspace.


oh no I just recognized that one of my fav programs on the web is java! nothing scary its just a tool to view equirectangular pictures as 3D... thats something I use for testing my own pics and those I wont render on the n900 (not enough juice, a P4 allready takes 3 hours for it)

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

You'll almost certainly not even notice it isn't there. Java's never been all that popular on the web. There were some things it was used for in the past because nothing else could do them, but that ground's been steadily taken away by Javascript and Flash and there isn't much left now.

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

@0Dark Knight0: Yes. To find out what those are, go into your browser preferences on your desktop and disable Java. Leave Javascript enabled. Now browse around the web until you find a site that doesn't work.

@Thor: I would be surprised if the Firefox guys did their own Java port, since that's not something they've ever done in the past or have ever mentioned (AFAIK) doing in the future.

-John

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

but how come maemo-linxus based, does not support all the sites??? strange
at least, Linxus has to have sort kind of similar to java that enables free browsing.....

Maemo is know to be powerful OS??? am i right??

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

coool man

this what i wanted to know:):):)

so now days (you mean) the site are opening smoothly, even java is not there...right??

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

http://talk.maemo.org/search.php :)

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

as one of the 300, I have posted replies where I feel I am adding to the conversation, logged bugs when found, voted for things, and given feed-back on the apps I have used, i.e. done what was asked in return for the 6 month loan of the device.

Asking for general feed-back helps no-one, where-as specific questions that have NOT YET been asked or answered have always got a reply (at least from what i have seen on here).

In terms of battery life, my experience is that it is similar to my E90 (maybe slightly worse as the battery capacity is smaller). So with regular use, a day can easily be achieved, but large amounts of time with the screen lit, and all of the radios (WiFi, 3G, Bluetooth) on and in use (i.e. active conference use) gets you around 5 hours (so don't forget your charger).
Javascript heavy webpages (i.e. Facebook) seem to cause the CPU to be heavily used, so the batty life is majorly reduced then.

But the using the supplied charger, the battery reaches full very quickly (or at least that is my impression compared to my E90 experiences).

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

so do u think Nokia will release bigger size battery (1500 or 1700)
as u said, it absorbs alot of battery

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In short, "yes". No receiver. (There are some other differences too but that's the one that matters. For a remote control you would have to load the codes to change channel etc. by other means, instead of programming it through a receiver the way I can with my Palm T3).

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More battery capacity is always better :)

What I said above is all subjective, i have not done any measurements!check the thread about battery usage of playing MP3's Vs Ogg and battery life for real numbers.
One of the first things i installed was a visual CPU monitor (called load-applet), and that to me shows how much extra load Javescript heavy sites seem to put on the device (remember that this is *still* not final build software).
My experience with the E90 was that it was the high resolution screen that was one of the *major* contributors to battery drain (couple of times i tried using only the low res (QVGA) external screen and the battery seemed to last longer)

My vote would be for TWIN batteries (i.e 2 small batteries used in sequence).
That way, you could have the best of all worlds;
- lighter (by only having one battery in at a time)
- extreme long life (one battery in use, second in device ready to use, and third on charge)
- device is always on (as you could swap out the exausted battery without powering off the device)

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

People are confusing them. The browser has javascript for web content unless the descriptions are incorrect.

I am not a fan of java based programs since they tend to be generic and resource hogs. Any high level app based code tends to be that way. I can think of a certain Android OS that proves the point.

Still, high level code has the advantage of being more portable to other platforms, so I can see the advantage of at least offering it.

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N900 is not capable of making calls and internet over 3g at the same time. so this is for sure not a phone for everyone.

Is that true? Does it mean if I'm surfing web on it and someone calls me I won't be able to answer??

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 

Will you please do some research before asking questions which have been answered and discussed on talk.maemo.org over and over and over and over?