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Laughing Man 2009-11-12 15:48

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 0Dark Knight0 (Post 373663)
N900 is not capable of making calls and internet over 3g at the same time. so this is for sure not a phone for everyone.

Is that true? Does it mean if I'm surfing web on it and someone calls me I won't be able to answer??

This is incorrect. You will be able to answer and go back to browsing the web and talk on the phone at the same time. I think only Verizon has that problem of not being able to do internet and voice at the same time (not sure though).

0Dark Knight0 2009-11-12 16:06

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by range (Post 373668)
Will you please do some research before asking questions which have been answered and discussed on talk.maemo.org over and over and over and over?

sorry :(:(

0Dark Knight0 2009-11-12 16:08

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
ehat about the manufacture place??? are we going to get the N900 which been made in Finland?? or Korea, India china....!!??

sjgadsby 2009-11-12 16:45

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 0Dark Knight0 (Post 373715)
ehat about the manufacture place??? are we going to get the N900 which been made in Finland?? or Korea, India china....!!??

You've already participated in the "does anybody know where the n900 is manufactured???" thread. You might be better off asking follow-up questions there rather than forking the discussion over to this thread.

iamNarada 2009-11-12 16:51

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
I know...well, my understanding is that you can place shortcuts to contacts, calenders, and website on any of your desktops. How about to scripts? As in, if i write a script to automate...well, whatever, can I place a shortcut to it on a desktop?

chemist 2009-11-12 17:07

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iamNarada (Post 373773)
I know...well, my understanding is that you can place shortcuts to contacts, calenders, and website on any of your desktops. How about to scripts? As in, if i write a script to automate...well, whatever, can I place a shortcut to it on a desktop?

not yet, a brainstorm item is there for desktop output of scripts, that includes running scripts per widget or something
brainstorm http://maemo.org/community/brainstor...esktop_output/
talk http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=34345

ysss 2009-11-12 17:13

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 0Dark Knight0 (Post 373663)
N900 is not capable of making calls and internet over 3g at the same time. so this is for sure not a phone for everyone.

Is that true? Does it mean if I'm surfing web on it and someone calls me I won't be able to answer??

If I'm not mistaken, only GPRS has this limitation. EDGE and 3G has alleviated that.

So if you have problem getting 3G signal from your carrier that you have to switch to GRPS mode (no coverage, unsupported band, etc), then you might come across that issue.

skalogre 2009-11-12 17:39

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 373795)
If I'm not mistaken, only GPRS has this limitation. EDGE and 3G has alleviated that.

So if you have problem getting 3G signal from your carrier that you have to switch to GRPS mode (no coverage, unsupported band, etc), then you might come across that issue.

EDGE does not support concurrent data and voice, regrettably.

rcadden 2009-11-12 17:48

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
I can say I've kept most of my thoughts back because it was made abundantly clear that the software is not final in these units - hence, any observations/reviews that I made would potentially be inaccurate upon launch.

ysss 2009-11-12 17:50

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skalogre (Post 373819)
EDGE does not support concurrent data and voice, regrettably.

Then the above poster's statement is true when the N900 is used on AT&T network.

iamNarada 2009-11-12 17:54

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 373834)
Then the above poster's statement is true when the N900 is used on AT&T network.

Just a mention..I'm on AT&T right now myself, and to be perfectly honest, T-mobile can't touch them on coverage, certainly not 3G coverage. But speed...co-worker is on T-mobile, they just turned on 3G here (I'm in Florida), and they just pushed the upgrade. He was getting 5.5Mbs from a bandwith test site. I got 500Kbs from the same site, on AT&T 3G (I currently have a e51).

iamNarada 2009-11-12 18:09

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
Have any of you with the unit tested how voip calls do. I personally am interested in calls over Google talk (i.e. voice chat) to somebody on a laptop. But I'm also interested in how the other available services perform. I've used Fring on my e51, and was not impressed with the performance.

pycage 2009-11-12 19:35

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
If you're on EDGE browsing the web and a phone call comes it, the N900 automatically disables the EDGE data connection to accept the call. After the call, the data connection gets enabled again and you can continue surfing.
You cannot surf during a call on EDGE due to technical limitations of GPRS and EDGE. It's not a fault of the N900.
UMTS/HSPA doesn't have this limitation.

0Dark Knight0 2009-11-12 19:53

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
those from the 300 tester, what they think about the:

1)- Battery life
2)- emailing.
3)- how clear the screen when out in sun??

pycage 2009-11-12 20:12

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 0Dark Knight0 (Post 373972)
1)- Battery life

For a smart phone, the battery life is good. I wouldn't have to charge it every day, but I'm doing anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0Dark Knight0 (Post 373972)
2)- emailing.

I haven't seen the final firmware yet with some improvements in the E-Mail client. On the preproduction firmware the e-mail gets very slow when you have IMAP folders with thousands of mails. Otherwise for sane
folder sizes, performance is OK, and HTML mail is supported, too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0Dark Knight0 (Post 373972)
3)- how clear the screen when out in sun??

The screen is transflexive, i.e. specially built for being readable in the sun. So yes, it's clear. Colors fade out in direct sun light, but you can still read what's on screen.

pagesix1536 2009-11-12 20:26

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mve (Post 372390)
There is no google maps application for the N900 at the moment.

Why does one need to exist? Browser is full Firefox engine. maps.google.com should render nicely on the N900.

0Dark Knight0 2009-11-12 20:27

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pycage (Post 373997)
For a smart phone, the battery life is good. I wouldn't have to charge it every day, but I'm doing anyway.



I haven't seen the final firmware yet with some improvements in the E-Mail client. On the preproduction firmware the e-mail gets very slow when you have IMAP folders with thousands of mails. Otherwise for sane
folder sizes, performance is OK, and HTML mail is supported, too.



The screen is transflexive, i.e. specially built for being readable in the sun. So yes, it's clear. Colors fade out in direct sun light, but you can still read what's on screen.

cooollllll,,thnx bro

pagesix1536 2009-11-12 20:34

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iamNarada (Post 373859)
Have any of you with the unit tested how voip calls do. I personally am interested in calls over Google talk (i.e. voice chat) to somebody on a laptop. But I'm also interested in how the other available services perform. I've used Fring on my e51, and was not impressed with the performance.


I'm curious about this as well. I was considering only getting a data/web plan from Tmobile. I heard there might be one for $10 a month. If this is true, it might be possible using Skype and Google Voice to get all your SMS and voice calling via a cheap data plan on the N900. That would rock to only pay $10 for unlimited data only, and still get voice and SMS.

eiffel 2009-11-12 21:46

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pagesix1536 (Post 374018)
Browser is full Firefox engine. maps.google.com should render nicely on the N900.

Try resizing your computer's browser window to 800x480 and you'll see why maps.google.com is almost unusable on the tablets. Too much interface and not enough map.

0Dark Knight0 2009-11-13 08:52

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eiffel (Post 374203)
Try resizing your computer's browser window to 800x480 and you'll see why maps.google.com is almost unusable on the tablets. Too much interface and not enough map.

so is there going to be a solution 4 this???!!:confused:

twaelti 2009-11-13 09:29

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pagesix1536 (Post 374018)
Why does one need to exist? Browser is full Firefox engine. maps.google.com should render nicely on the N900.

Yes, but layout and controls are not optimized on the default google maps site. Try my version and see what I mean.

twaelti 2009-11-13 09:31

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 0Dark Knight0 (Post 374644)
so is there going to be a solution 4 this???!!:confused:

Yes. In my "lab", I currently even have a version running with Streetview :-)

joenix 2009-11-13 11:10

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pagesix1536 (Post 374034)
I'm curious about this as well. I was considering only getting a data/web plan from Tmobile. I heard there might be one for $10 a month. If this is true, it might be possible using Skype and Google Voice to get all your SMS and voice calling via a cheap data plan on the N900. That would rock to only pay $10 for unlimited data only, and still get voice and SMS.

I have tried XMPP voice calls over EDGE on the N900, but sound is choppy and there is too much latency. This is due to the limitations of EDGE though. I don't know how well it works on 3G networks.

Skype and XMPP voice work really well on wireless though. The sound quality is very high. I've had a few incoming Skype calls that did not connect properly (no sound), but then I just dial back.

joenix 2009-11-13 11:29

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iamNarada (Post 372730)
Moving right along. What can be sent out over the USB port? Scenario I'm thinking of here is if I want to build a dock (since Nokia is not going to have one available as a standard accessory), I've got the USB port on one side, the AV port on the other. Can I pipe A/V out through the USB, or would that require USB host or USB on the go, (which when I last searched was either not available or couldn't be certified because the certifying agency will not certify a port to charge and be host).

When you connect the N900 to a PC over USB, the device pops up a question whether to connect as a mass storage device or in PC-suite mode.
The PC-suite mode turns the N900 into a CDC Ethernet device. For example, on Ubuntu it shows up as the usb0 network interface.
From there you can do everything you would do over a usual network, like SSH, VNC, etc.

peio 2009-11-13 14:58

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peio (Post 373072)
Hi

I have 2 questions about "issues" in media player and phone app, that maybe have been solved in the newer firmwares:

1. In the Artists view of the media player, is there a column of letters on the right to scroll directly to the artists beginning with that letter? (like in contact view where you scroll by groups of 3 letters if I remember well)

1. Has "smart dial" been implemented in the phone app in portrait, taking advantage of the T9 keyboard?? It seems silly that it's only working in landscape

thanks!

Up please? :)

Bernard 2009-11-13 16:01

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TA-t3 (Post 373446)
In short, "yes". No receiver. (There are some other differences too but that's the one that matters. For a remote control you would have to load the codes to change channel etc. by other means, instead of programming it through a receiver the way I can with my Palm T3).


Has it been confirmed that there IS no receiver?
People have been using irda ports for some time to send consumer IR signals. If there really is no receiver that would make the N900 very unique. No other Nokia phone has ever had a IR transmitter only (always a receiver/transmitter combination).

I know the manual says the port is not IrDA compatible, but I don't think that necessarily says anything about the hardware.
I'm under the impression that IrDA is a combination of hardware and protocol support. The fact that a device doesn't have any software to support these protocols, makes the device NOT IrDA compatible.
Has anybody seen pictures of the insides of the device? You should be able to tell if it is only a transmitter or receiver/transmitter combination.

TA-t3 2009-11-13 16:50

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
Well, as you say, the manual says that "the infrared port is not IrDA compatible". It also says that no software on the device uses it, but that 3party software could. To me this sounds like the _hardware_ isn't IrDA compatible, and to several of us this is understood as there's no receiver.

I guess we'll know for certain shortly.

geneven 2009-11-13 17:05

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edgar2 (Post 372101)
i made one for you, have a look here.

it stopped when i tested to manually focus (must've pressed the camera button all the way, the camera application started).

edit: actually searching for "n900" on qik.com reveals a lot of videos taken with the n900. perhaps there's another lesson to be learned here as well?

Sure, the lesson is from the tone of this thread. People who want to see enthusiastic comments about the N900 from people who already have one don't SEARCH enough, haven't read the 'tidbits' that are out there all over the place, and are mostly out of their mind.

sjgadsby 2009-11-13 18:26

Re: 300 testers and not a single bit of info
 
Posts regarding shipping N900 shipping dates have moved to "OPK: N900 deliveries have now started!!" Please keep all such posts in that thread. Thank you.


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