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Tintin 2009-11-29 22:10

Re: Is it time to re-structure talk.maemo.org ?
 
I'll PM Reggie and ask him to reply in this thread as it doesn't really matter how much we discuss this if there is no ability/willingness to change the forums.

If there isn't, then maybe a whole new site for pre-N900 devices/OS may be the way to go, as brought up by a few others.
That way people who find this forum hard to navigate would at least have an option - a site dedicated to non-N900 topics - and the ones that don't mind the current setup can remain here.

Reggie 2009-11-29 23:46

Re: Is it time to re-structure talk.maemo.org ?
 
I am monitoring this thread.

I'm open to restructuring the forums but I'm not sure if the structure proposed is the best one. Maybe we should just remove Applications, Multimedia, and Games, and just have the discussion software topics part of the specific OS forum. Or maybe just create one Software sub-forum under each OS platform...

Also, regardless what the new structure is, there will be some changes in the Active Topics to show the parent category and then the sub-category since 'Applications' or 'Games' will not be meaningful anymore without showing the parent category (e.g. 'Maemo 5') as well.

Keep discussing and proposing. Bring the issue up to the council so there will be a more formal way of discussing the alternatives, once they have all been fully discussed.

God 2009-11-29 23:51

Re: Is it time to re-structure talk.maemo.org ?
 
Wouldn't a dropdown-list as "most active topics" be useful?

So everyone could choose which category is active, without seeing the rest.

zerojay 2009-11-29 23:55

Re: Is it time to re-structure talk.maemo.org ?
 
I think that yes, it's past time for a reorganization... however I'm undecided on the best way to do so. Perhaps we should have a brainstorm posted with various people posting their ideas?

What do you think, Reggie?

Reggie 2009-11-29 23:59

Re: Is it time to re-structure talk.maemo.org ?
 
Yes, we should be using brainstorm. :D

Texrat 2009-11-30 02:43

Re: Is it time to re-structure talk.maemo.org ?
 
I'd actually like to take the discussion further-- and think about maemo.org 3.0. A revamp of everything. I'd like it to look something like the Ubuntu site:

http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu

mullf 2009-11-30 02:46

Re: Is it time to re-structure talk.maemo.org ?
 
Plus, require users to give their address when registering, so we can send hired assassins to get those who do not use the search feature before asking a question.

Tintin 2009-11-30 02:58

Re: Is it time to re-structure talk.maemo.org ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 400012)
I'd actually like to take the discussion further-- and think about maemo.org 3.0. A revamp of everything. I'd like it to look something like the Ubuntu site:

http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu

I personally prefer the rather simple vBulletin-style forum that is in place now - also, I think a re-org of the forums mentioned is a rather urgent need and not something that should be lumped into some 3.0-revam-everything-effort. A few changes to the current structure is, as you have seen from the poll replies, needed - now and not later.

Such efforts may or may not be throw-aways when/if such a major revamp comes around but it does not make the imminent need any less important. The current structure has gone on for too long and its flaws are becoming more and more evident.

Texrat 2009-11-30 03:03

Re: Is it time to re-structure talk.maemo.org ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tintin (Post 400023)
I personally prefer the rather simple vBulletin-style forum that is in place now - also, I think a re-org of the forums mentioned is a rather urgent need and not something that should be lumped into some 3.0-revam-everything-effort. A few changes to the current structure is, as you have seen from the poll replies, needed - now and not later.

Such efforts may or may not be throw-aways when/if such a major revamp comes around but it does not make the imminent need any less important. The current structure has gone on for too long and its flaws are becoming more and more evident.

I disagree on both counts.

For one, maemo.org is more than just Talk. I would prefer we step back, look at the whole site and map out a better integration and design.

I also don't see the urgency. We've weathered worse... and what many newcomers fail to see is that the forum you're using now was the result of a fairly recent revamp after significant debate. So, no, the current structure has not "gone on too long".

Tintin 2009-11-30 03:09

Re: Is it time to re-structure talk.maemo.org ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 400029)
I disagree on both counts.

For one, maemo.org is more than just Talk. I would prefer we step back, look at the whole site and map out a better integration and design.

I also don't see the urgency. We've weathered worse... and what many newcomers fail to see is that the forum you're using now was the result of a fairly recent revamp after significant debate. So, no, the current structure has not "gone on too long".

I disagree with your points.

If what we are seeing now is the result of a recent revamp then I feel that the individuals involved in that must not have had the foresight to see the issues we are now faced with.

Also, that the current structure has not "gone on too long" is your opinion and I disagree with it. It has gone on too long and should be re-done sooner than later.

No offense meant but you have a tendency of writing things as if they were well established facts when they more often than not are just your own thoughts. And to hide behind 'what newcomers fail to see', 'most of us old timers', etc is getting relatively old.


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