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cgelici 2009-11-13 12:49

N900 Question about always online
 
Hi,

I am planning to buy a n900 but I heard the battery life sucks. It's only 96 hours ? I think being always online, among other things, consume much energy.

You think it will be possible to tweak the OS so we can turn this off ? (meaning turning 3g off manually/automatically)

One thing I know about computers, and this is also like a computer, is that nothing is impossible.

What do the linux pro's in this forum think ?

edgar2 2009-11-13 12:59

Re: N900 Question about always online
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cgelici (Post 374845)
You think it will be possible to tweak the OS so we can turn this off ? (meaning turning 3g off manually/automatically)

simple - just turn 3g connection off with one-two taps. you can also choose whether to automatically connect to wifi or 3g - or only do it manually.

http://media.share.ovi.com/m1/s/1395...3625158577.jpg

truslack 2009-11-13 13:06

Re: N900 Question about always online
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cgelici (Post 374845)
Hi,

I am planning to buy a n900 but I heard the battery life sucks. It's only 96 hours ?

I thought it was more like 24 hours max?

ruskie 2009-11-13 13:18

Re: N900 Question about always online
 
96 hours??? Damn... that's long... I'd like such an always on device for sure. Considering me N95 tends to crap out at times after less than 24hours.

bugelrex 2009-11-13 13:18

Re: N900 Question about always online
 
I'm also curious, is it practical to have it always online in the most minimal sense:

How long would the n900 off charger if you just left it idle, but connected to IM and one 5 minute IM chat per hour. No other activity

Hows the battery life for

connected via WIFI only, but GSM radio enabled for phone calls - uses the battery least, but is not practical if you're mostly on the move or have no access to wifi

connected via 3G - overkill just for IM

connected via EDGE - can this minimal case last 9am to midnight? since the marketing slogan is "always online"?

EIPI 2009-11-13 13:30

Re: N900 Question about always online
 
@edgar2 - <off topic> - The videocam and camera switch buttons in the status bar pull-down menu - I have not seen those on my device. Are they a part of the new firmware (I am running the Summit release still). TIA

Venomrush 2009-11-13 14:23

Re: N900 Question about always online
 
The battery is the same as the Nokia 5800...
But the N900 has been built for optimised use of the battery.
There will be manufacturers making extended battery for it, for example Mugen.

See this blog for some tips on saving battery on the N900 - I need more power captain!

noobmonkey 2009-11-13 14:28

Re: N900 Question about always online
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by God (Post 374876)
Why does everyone moan about battery life :S?! You can just charge the phone over night :S it's not like you're using the phone 24/7! and if you do, then you have to stop it. You can use your laptop/PC to do the rest of the stuff in the mean time.

If you don't want to use electricity, what about a solar-charger? http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-11288_7-6427792-3.html

Hehe the solar chargers are good if you don't live in the UK :)

Have to admit 24 hour battery life is fine, but 6/9 hours would bug the hell out of me... I needs to survive a minimum of 8am - 10pm being used reasonably heavily for me :) - just hoping that i can get it to do that (Switch of unwanted connections, etc etc)

Khertan 2009-11-13 15:07

Re: N900 Question about always online
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EIPI (Post 374873)
@edgar2 - <off topic> - The videocam and camera switch buttons in the status bar pull-down menu - I have not seen those on my device. Are they a part of the new firmware (I am running the Summit release still). TIA

It s a feature of the Load Applet application.

cgelici 2009-11-13 23:36

Re: N900 Question about always online
 
Thanks for the answer but I read reviews saying the device is ALWAYS online and you cannot turn it off. I think it was also the case with the htc diamond but im not sure.

I read that is either connectec with 3g all the time or, when available, wifi. But still connected 24/7. I think it was made like this for widgets.

But I guess this is not the case.

I worry about battery life because I want it to be a lifesaver like the SE p1i I head, even with 5% energy it would still be on for 10hours or so wih very minimal usage, but it was really great. I just don't want to worry when I forget my charger if I'm going abroad or something.

Please don't tell that I should buy another phone then because there is no phone like this and I already love it even though I don't have it yet.

lma 2009-11-14 07:27

Re: N900 Question about always online
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by noobmonkey (Post 374933)
Hehe the solar chargers are good if you don't live in the UK :)

Apart from solar, the Solio can also be charged from a wall socket, car cigarette lighter socket or USB so it's still pretty useful even here.

pelago 2009-11-14 14:33

Re: N900 Question about always online
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cgelici (Post 375562)
Thanks for the answer but I read reviews saying the device is ALWAYS online and you cannot turn it off.

You certainly can put the device offline if you want. The "always online" is really just a marketing thing to say that, by default, it will do online things in the background such as checking for messages and updating contacts status without you having to manually check.

bemymonkey 2009-11-14 16:45

Re: N900 Question about always online
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by God (Post 374876)
Why does everyone moan about battery life :S?! You can just charge the phone over night :S it's not like you're using the phone 24/7! and if you do, then you have to stop it. You can use your laptop/PC to do the rest of the stuff in the mean time.

I think charging the N900 over night is a given - the question is whether or not I'll have to charge it at lunchtime to get through the rest of the day.

Also, the reason I'm getting an N900 is so that I don't have to take my laptop with me all the time ;)


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