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Re: N900 Owners Thread (First impressions, ...)

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Originally Posted by ewan (Post 386157)

Since you've used both designs, why would you prefer capacitative? As I understand it, the pros are that it allows multitouch, and it doesn't require any pressure to use, whereas the cons are that you lose precision and the ability to use the screen with anything other than a bare fingertip (so no nails, no stylus). On the face of it that doesn't sound like a good trade-off, particularly on a device like the N900 which will likely run quite a lot of apps (desktop ports and web apps) not designed specifically for a fingers only interface.

Clearly, on something like the iPhone that lacks a separate keyboard the multitouch is useful for things like game controls (though at the cost of having the user's thumbs obscure the display), but I what would capacitative add to the N900?

Well, for a resistive it's pretty good but when I put it down and pick up the iPhone, the difference is very noticeable. There's a reason why Maemo 6 is going for capacitive.

The UI has never made me feel like picking up a stylus though.

Also multitouch is important for the sake of the onscreen keyboard. The on screen keyboard on this phone is just plain bad if you've used the iPhone keyboard. I mean your maximum typing speed is less then half what it would be on the iPhone.

Otherwise the browser and links functions just like the iPhone and you have control over what you are selecting with just a fingertip.

Because of the resistive screen engaging hover mode is difficult and sometimes you need to use your fingernails. I think capacitive will make for a better device for most people. The exception would be for people who want to input Chinese characters with a stylus but apparently iPhone has solved that problem. I haven't tried it myself but I have heard it works well.

Re: N900 Owners Thread (First impressions, ...)

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Originally Posted by ewan (Post 386160)

Ah. I think you may misunderstand what many of us 'linux chest thumpers' want to pull off - what I want is a free OS that does what I want, on my machines. I've already got that on servers and on the desktop, and I'm getting closer to having it in my pocket. I'm not sure why it should trouble me if other people choose not to take advantage of it.

Trust me I would love it and I think the Nokia brand recognition could pull it off. However people generally won't make personal sacrifices for a greater goal. I need proper e-mail support and proper mapping support and I can make other sacrifices for the cause.

One thing that is you need critical mass to get commercial quality apps. Commercial quality apps are needed even on a FOSS platform. If I'm using a free app for a critical function and something goes wrong who do I call? So support is needed.

But I guess you have a very realistic perspective on what is most likely going to happen and you have needs that are different from the other 95% of people.

Re: N900 Owners Thread (First impressions, ...)

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Originally Posted by bAxon (Post 386179)

Are you serious? You can't search email??? who is designing this stuff??

Can someone please confirm.. is there a fix coming.. this is a show stopper for me.. I have a blakberry with over 1000s emails I need to search quite frequently.. this would be a no go for me..

Trust me it boggles my mind. Absolutely boggles it. I can't for the life of me understand what was going through their minds.

Re: N900 Owners Thread (First impressions, ...)

Okay I found a saving grace. I need to post this on HoFo also.

I sent an e-mail from the device and thank heaven it synced it to my Exchange account. So that is one MAJOR S60 issue solved. However it will not populate the sent mailbox with what you sent from other devices. That's still a BIG problem.

Re: N900 Owners Thread (First impressions, ...)

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Originally Posted by sxr71 (Post 386154)

Just now I received a call. When I looked at the phone it was a blank screen. It glitched and it took about 5 seconds to show the actual answer button. Do you think people want to deal with this kind of thing?

Do you have that setting that turns into phone app when you rotate the phone to portrait? Could it be that setting(waiting for the accelerometer) that's causing the delay?

Re: N900 Owners Thread (First impressions, ...)

hah, I ran out of disk space! was trying to get python installed for on-device app dev and it filled up the rootfs. oops. I guess it's a known bug.

Re: N900 Owners Thread (First impressions, ...)

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Also multitouch is important for the sake of the onscreen keyboard. The on screen keyboard on this phone is just plain bad if you've used the iPhone keyboard. I mean your maximum typing speed is less then half what it would be on the iPhone.

Man how will we get around that .... I mean if only there was another way to enter text, WHY NOKIA WHY!!!!!

:)

As for being able to search email - this is a FULL linux build - which pretty much means that any desktop email client is only a port away from being able to work on the N900 - giving you the features you are looking for. I agree its an oversight - but its really not a killer.

Evolution, Sylpheed heck even Kmail are just a port away.

Re: N900 Owners Thread (First impressions, ...)

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Originally Posted by ewan (Post 386157)

Stantum has a resistive multi touch and Nokia has recently applied for a patent also on resistive multi touch so it's coming.

It's coming and when it does, which one do you think you will like better when the resistive has better accuracy and you can hand-write on it?
....not to mention stantum tech has unlimited touches.

Re: N900 Owners Thread (First impressions, ...)

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Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 386351)

Since you're so enthusiastic and an 'potential coder', you should go attempt the port and get back to us on how easy it was.
A direct port would probably result in a very non-finger friendly UI, plus all the dependent libs you would have to port also.

Re: N900 Owners Thread (First impressions, ...)

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Originally Posted by bugelrex (Post 386358)

Well yes - thats true if all you did was simply cross compile it to work on the ARM processor - not that it wouldnt work - and of course we do have the stylus - however I was thinking more of a proper port.

I have already said in another thread I may very well have a go at it. So perhaps now you might take your attitude and ram it directly where the sun don't shine :)