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Gadgety 2009-12-02 15:07
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by paz101 (Post 404846)
can you give a few examples of whats lackin in the phone?
I understand that Nokia are making sure their devices will focus more, have fewer features, but do them exceptionally well. However some of these functions I expect out of the box for a €500 phone in 2009. I certainly expect voice dialing through the head set for example. My SonyEricsson P800 had that back in 2003. So it's the phone features that are lagging behind. It's great that it's a mobile computer, but I expect it to handle the phone features really well, too. Otherwise statements such as "No compromises", as stated by Alberto Torres EVP, Solutions in Nokia's presentation to the financial community today ring hollow.

Although the next point has less to do with Nokia, and all to do with Maemo penetration, I miss running certain personal productivity apps, which currently run on WinMo, and where the developer is putting out a version for iPhone, and for Android. So I ask the devleoper, well what about Maemo? No, "We do not have Debian plans at the moment." Hopefully this will change as Maemo6 hits the market, because if it will be as good as Nokia says, it will penetrate the market really rapidly. Could there be any other reasons why developers wouldn't develop for Maemo and through Qt, extend it to Symbian? Certainly Nokia expect a mass following of developers for the Maemo6 platform. I also hope so.

synthaxx 2009-12-02 15:08
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Great, now i want it to arrive even more.

I've tried something similar with the fruitphone. Unfortunately neither the WIFI (frequent dropouts), nor the onscreen "keyboard" are up to the task. Can't wait to be rid of it.

Work at home day just got a lot more bedtime, oh yeah! :D

spanner 2009-12-02 15:10
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pagesix1536 (Post 404923)
Uh, duh...Have you not read anything published about this device? Even from Nokia? They never intended it to go to the general public, it was always designed for early adopters, techies, and developers.

Based on the amount of mainstream advertising Nokia is pushing for the N900, I'd say this tired old line was:
a) false
b) a weak excuse for some shockingly rough edges.

I'm in the techie crowd too so I don't mind the lack of polish so much, but "not a smartphone" is just a fig leaf to spare Nokia's (well-deserved) blushes.

God 2009-12-02 15:12
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rcs1000 (Post 404933)
God: I, and many others, are happy to deal with a slight lack of polish (for now), in return for an enormously capable device.

I doubt you'll see the *return* on your N900. If anything on a new Maemo 6 Platform on a new device. But time will tell.

It's just cheeky from Nokia, asking for so much money & you're getting a device with good PC-Features, but where's the basic 2003 stuff? :S! It's like 5 steps forward & 4 steps back. Pretty stupid imho, they could have taken some time on that...but oh well

GeraldKo 2009-12-02 15:12
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by God (Post 404878)
1: MMS (it's a very useful feature & in my case I get them from my girlfriend, so I'd expect it to have it)

2: Portrait (there'll be some portrait coming soon, but not enough for me & the day-to-day end-user)

3: It lacks phone functionalities, which normal users look for now a days. So Nokia failed at that aspect, it's just a better N810

4: No Navigator and stand-alone number keys which makes the physical full QWERTY keyboard less usable.

5: Reduced screen size comparing with N810 and the battery is a lot bit too small for this kind device.

6: Lack of Capacitive screen + with multitouch (it's a step back in technology, at least to the normal users)

Over-all, the device is a powerful machine, but it just doesn't bring it to todays expectations. The freedom + power isn't enough to sell to those people who expect more phone-power (yes, I know, phone second, etc, etc....still disappointing for most people looking for an all-in-one device)
I'd only recommend it to techies.
You're just a complainer. On the one hand, you complain that it doesn't have multi-touch and on the other that it doesn't have a screen as large as the N810 ... as if your "normal" user currently expects to have both of those in the same device.

As for your problem #1, why don't you just get a new girlfriend?

Rushmore 2009-12-02 15:14
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
I love this device and want to adopt it as part of the family, but the freakin' GPRS signal for weaker areas is sucky.

If you live in a good coverage area and do not plan on driving in weak areas, there is no better device.

But the N900 is a netbook with phone function. Not a phone.

Laughingstok 2009-12-02 15:15
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
The more I play with my phone and the more I read others complaining about crap like MMS and twitter, the more I want to point them elsewhere.

This is a fluke meter for techies folks.

If you don't know what a Fluke device is, you probably shouldn't own this phone either. I guess that about sums it up.

It's a Linux box.. with a phone.

It's not a phone, with "some OS" on it.

If you don't know how to even check your phones uptime, you probably shouldn't own it. This phone is definitely targeted for people who really do some serious IT work.

ARJWright 2009-12-02 15:15
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughingstok (Post 404910)
As soon as Perl gets ported over, I've already written a simple webserver so I can host webpages off it.. if I feel so inclined. ;)

Just another example of what you can do with it. I'm sure someone will get Apache ready for it too, but the fact that I can write my own on it makes it really awesome.
There's already an Apache webserver, not sure if its been adjusted for Maemo 5 though.

Anarod 2009-12-02 15:16
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
I just love this device. I don't have it (it hasn't arrived to Portugal, yet) but I try to follow it in maemo and youtube. I'm a software developer but my company uses .Net so unfortunantly I don't have any experience in any other language. So, since (some of) you are advanced linux users, I ask: what are my options? I really like .Net framework (but I would really like to learn others) so the nearest thing would be mono... Did any of you tried to code using N900? Is it acceptable? How about UI designers, do they exist?

Bratag 2009-12-02 15:19
Re: This phone is freaking amazing.. day in the life..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughingstok (Post 404910)
As soon as Perl gets ported over, I've already written a simple webserver so I can host webpages off it.. if I feel so inclined. ;)

Just another example of what you can do with it. I'm sure someone will get Apache ready for it too, but the fact that I can write my own on it makes it really awesome.
Are you looking for something more than the perl that comes with

Quote:
BusyBox v1.10.2 (Debian 3:1.10.2.legal-1osso26+0m5) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

Nokia-N900-42-11:~# perl -v

This is perl, v5.8.3 built for arm-linux-gnueabi-thread-multi

Copyright 1987-2003, Larry Wall

Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or the
GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5 source kit.

Complete documentation for Perl, including FAQ lists, should be found on
this system using `man perl' or `perldoc perl'. If you have access to the
Internet, point your browser at http://www.perl.com/, the Perl Home Page.

Nokia-N900-42-11:~#
I have already run a few perl scripts - had to bring down some extras for it and would much rather it was optified but ...


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